Oct. 15, 2025

Turning 9 into Life by Turning Out Inmates

Turning 9 into Life by Turning Out Inmates
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Season 8

In this episode of “Bloody Angola Podcast”, Jim Chapman brings you the story of Howard Lee Higginbotham who managed to turn a 9 year sentence in a Louisiana jail for burglary into Life with no parole by “turning out” another inmate.

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Shackle change, Oh weesome, gird, it's calling my name.

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There is no mercy and it's been a tentery juice

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as the Hill Stream game Rainbow three.

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I'm here be.

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By me to die.

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Inside these walls, inside the wild.

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Hadn't went more girls as.

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I Hey everyone, and welcome back to Bloody Angola, a

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podcast one hundred and forty two years in the making,

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the complete story of America's bloodiest present. I'm Jim Chapman,

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and look, today we are going to discuss a little

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bit of the really dark side of prison. Now, you've

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all heard the saying don't drop the soap when it

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comes to people getting sent to prison. There was even

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a bit that Chris Rock did way back in the day,

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way before or Will Smith slapped the piss out of

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him at the Oscars. And this bit was hilarious and

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it featured a man he termed the tall salad Man.

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So for those of you that aren't familiar, you're in

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for a treat.

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I want you to.

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Listen to this clip from Chris Rock.

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Oh they will rape you in jail, boy.

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See, the whole damn country is so damn conservative now

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everybody's like.

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Jails ain't tough enough. Jails ain't tough enough. We gotta

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have a death pilty. Jails ain't tough enough. Jails are

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fucked up. Okay, don't believe the hype.

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The problem is the reason jails are so crowded because life.

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Is fucked up.

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Coats lot, people.

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Are broke, people are starving, lighte shit, life is catching

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up to jail sit. If you living a whole project,

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new jail, ain't that.

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Bad, y'all watching h y'all have this special on the

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Jail Special a couple of months ago. Now, normally when

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you see a special about jail, it's on regular TV

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and there's a lot of shit they don't show. Oh,

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not the HBO Jail special. Oh, they showed it all

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the interview and the brother and then they said, now, sir,

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when a new inmate comes in and he wants some drugs,

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how do you initiate him?

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The guy goes, well, the first thing I do is make.

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Him toss my salad. The guys they tossed my salad, Well,

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what's that?

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God?

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Well, having your salad toss means having your ass whole

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eating out with jelly or Sir, I for first, sir,

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I gotta thank you this up.

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And then the guy said, why must you go through

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all of that, sir, why not just eorl sex?

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And he goes, well, when a man sucking yo day,

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he could pretend that's something else.

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When he's eating ass.

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He knows this ass.

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I do. We don't need a death bilody.

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We got to.

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Toss solid man. Should have I had a choice right

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now between the electric chairl tossing a.

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Salad, I'd be like, so where.

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Are you plugging in?

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Should not be wat.

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Now?

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Everybody tell old schools.

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Are out of control.

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Oh, they're out of control. We need prayer in the schools.

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We don't need prayer in schools.

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We need to toss solid man in school.

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That was straighten the kids out.

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Hey, Jimmy, you gotta d don't you gotta do?

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No?

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No, I want to talk to silence.

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I love it, Gus, I've a ree I'm a learnery.

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Now.

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When Chris Rock did that bit, like everyone else thought,

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this guy had to be a fictional character, right, it

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was made up for this bit. There's no way this

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guy really exists. However, people started scouring YouTube looking for

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the interview with this guy. Sure enough, the tossed solid

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man was real. Listen to this quick clip.

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First of all, if he's a newcomer, right, I want

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him to suck my ass in jelly. That's what they

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called toss the sound. That's the slang where he tossed

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the sound. It means sucking my ass right.

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With jelly or without jelly.

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Some people use certain I prefer the god to use jelly.

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Right, I would reach my climate, right, I would automatic

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get hard, right, I would you know, come automatically if

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he's sucking my ass for about ten minutes so long ago. Right,

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it's a sensation film.

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It makes you feel real good. Most all gays.

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Do that, you know what I'm saying, like guys to

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suck the ass. It's just like a pussy, right, But

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the only difference is not a push. Right, it's clean,

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the prison is decent, and person know that that's an asshole.

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But in mind he's looking at.

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It as a pussy because he's in prison. So toss

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my cell and let him eat me, you know, we straight.

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That's so as funny as Chris Rock is in that first.

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Clip I played, and as you heard in the second clip,

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this ship really happens it's real and it's right, plain

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and simple. I mean, who could forget this clip from

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the Shawshank Redemption with Bogs and the Sisters as they

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were known on Shawshank Redemption when they got a hold

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of Andy.

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Do frame that's you fight better than me.

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I wish I could tell you that a default the

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good fight and the sisters let him be. I wish

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I could tell you that, But prison is no fairy

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tale world. He never said who did it, but we

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all knew the sisters kept that inference. Sometimes it was

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able to fight him off, sometimes not. And that's how

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it went for Andy. That was his routine. I do

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believe those first two years with a worste Ward, and

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I also believe if things have gone on that way,

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this place would have got the best of it.

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So Morgan Freeman nailed it. When you were most vulnerable

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for this type of thing, it's usually in those first

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few years of prison, and when they get you, it's

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known as turning you out. And today I'm going to

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tell you about a Louisiana State Penitentiary inmate by the

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name of Howard Lee Higginbotham. Now, what is absolutely wild

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about Howard Lee Higginbotham is he turned what was a

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nine year short stant sentence for burglary inside of a

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jail into a life sentence without parole inside Bloody and Gola.

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And that's what we're gonna discuss today. So in September

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of nineteen seventy seven, Howard Lee Higginbotham, he gets arrested,

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then charged, then convicted of simple burglary. He actually with

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an accomplice, they pulled off some kind of burglary of

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a hardware store. And this was in Awatchitah Parish, Louisiana,

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which y'all is in the far north of Louisiana almost

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to the Arkansas line. Now, for this conviction, Howard Lee Higginbotham,

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he gets sentenced to nine years in the Awatchitaw Parish jail.

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It's a relatively short stint in prison. If you keep

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your nose clean, you may actually get out in less

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than six years. But old Howard he can't do that.

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He can't keep his nose clean, apparently, because the very

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same year, as a matter of fact, in December of

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nineteen seventy seven, just three months into that nine year sentence,

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Higginbotham does something that turns that nine year stint into

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life in prison without parole. So what did he do well?

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And keep in mind that at this time in nineteen

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seventy seven, Higginbotham is thirty seven years old, old enough

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to know better, right, So, as seventeen year old kid,

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he gets put in a cell with five other inmates.

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Don't ask me, Obviously, that sentence alone should raise a

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ton of red flags. I have no idea why this

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kid got thrown in a cell with five other inmates,

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but that's what happened. Higginbotham being one of those inmates.

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In over an eight day time period, he Higginbotham in

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the other four inmates beat and rape this kid over

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and over and over again. As a matter of fact,

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Howard Lee Higginbotham, he was charged with raping this boy

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three times. He had three counts of rape crimes against nature,

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which means anally during that eight day time period. So

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he goes to trial for those three counts of aggravated

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rape and he is sentenced to life inside of bloody

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Angola without the possibility of parole. Now we're going to

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fast forward a little bit, actually quite a bit, to

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July of twenty twenty five, just a few months ago,

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and Howard Lee Higginbotham, he goes in front of the

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clemency board for hearing. And what this clemency board will

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determine is if the now eighty five year old inmate

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qualifies for clemency. If he does, if they feel like

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they're comfortable in recommending him for clemency, they're going to

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send that recommendation to the governor. The governor then would

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either sign off and approve it or he would deny it.

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So this is Higginbotham's chance to get out of prison

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after forty five plus years. So the hearing only lasted

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about ten minutes, but you gotta listen to this. It's

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pretty shocking. In this hearing, Higginbotham does discuss whether or

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not he actually committed that crime, and in addition to that,

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he also discusses his version of why he committed it.

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You gotta hear this.

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My name is I would leave higginbottom eighty eight one

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one six.

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All right, mister Higbotham, let me just read some information

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into the record. You're classified as a fourth felony offender.

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You're seeking a convers you're seeking a commutation of your sentence.

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You were sentenced December nineteen seventy seven for three counts

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of aggravated you received a life sentence. You have a

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prior sentencing date which was in September of nineteen seventy

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seven for two counts of simple barbary and you received

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ninet years on that is convictions?

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Is that right? Yeah?

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Right?

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So I'm just going to turn it.

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Over to mister Prayer because your case has been assigned

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to him this morning, this afternoon.

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Yes, sir, how are you today, mister higg and.

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Baba oh fending? Pretty good?

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Okay, wait, remember what you did to get yourself there

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and to what have you done since to make us

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believe that you are needing to be out?

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But you can be safe to let you out?

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Well, I worked at the processing place, did you where

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the process food? I worked there at ten years and

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I worked a fence around the fence. After that that

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when the last time I took my heart started barbing

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and the last place I worked was the process and

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they closed it down and where they used to process

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all the.

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Food, and that's the journey.

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Then after that I worked the dormitory around the fences.

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All of the jart group.

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I think I think he wants you to tell him

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about your crime you committed. How'd you get here? I'll

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get there?

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You go that the crime, yeah, aggravated rapist, say, and the.

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Paths Yeah, I'd done it, which is.

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Then that's what I want to know about it. Okay,

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you were arrested in nineteen.

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Seventy seven for simple burglary and you got put in

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jail and Washington Parish.

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Is that correct, yes, sir?

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And while you're putting jail, while you were in jail

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waiting to get out, they put a seventeen year old

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in the sale with you.

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Is that correct, yes.

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Sir, And you and some other inmates be and it's

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that seventeen year old for eight days?

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Is that right?

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Yes, sir? Ken why'd you do that? What gave you

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the right to think that you could do that in.

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Any normal world?

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Well, by when they had that game stuff, if you

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didn't do this, we do this to you. And so

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you know how they into jail, the path he got

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the groups and I you know, and I was I

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was thirty seven years old, and another do old than

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I was. They had been there ain't golden to so

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if I didn't do nothing, what they've done they gonna

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do it to me, you know, and that's the way

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it was gone at the past.

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Are you the least been sorry for what you did?

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I'm sorry. Yeah, I know it. When I got older,

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you know, I realized I was wrong. You know I

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got older, you realized he's wrong.

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Yeah, you didn't realize it. Never mind, I'm wanting.

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I'm wanting to help you here, mister Higginbota.

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Are you remorseful at all of how you ruined someone's life?

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I knew.

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Yeah, well I know that ruins people's life.

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Yes, I'm sorry for that.

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But you do at the time, I ain't had no charge.

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The forced into it like a gang stuff.

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Uh.

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And then you know they got pairs, so you don't

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do this, we do this to you.

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I don't have any other question.

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Question.

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Well, I forgot a ward with n Noir. Can you

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tell us about mister big and Botham?

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Yes, Graham, he's assigned.

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He's medium customer as signed to the treatment center on

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the war too because of his age and his medical

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and he's got a lot of medical conditions.

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I mean that's where he lives.

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Yeah, I got a question, Uh.

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How old are you eight or five? Eight?

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Five year Oliver, you've been incarcerated.

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Barber party about forty seven year, says eighty eight since

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eight eight. Okay, that's good. That's good. So you're not

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running with a gang.

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Now.

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Have you been taking any classes since you've been incocerated?

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Well, the classes on the class I went to with

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the class on that sex class got a tific on it.

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Okay, And how do you how do you feel about it?

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What you learn about it?

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I learned a lot of things about it.

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About that, you know how you got to kill?

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Tell me what you learn.

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I learned you don't spose nobody to do nothing. And uh,

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the thing you try to go from it. If you

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see it happening, try not to be around it. The

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thing I learned from that of him, you know, like

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trying to out, trying to turn somebody out.

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They called it. I know that's wrong. I know that's wrong.

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But they got a lot of guys don't think it's wrong.

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But I know it's wrong.

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Now do you remorseful about it?

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Huh?

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Do you feel remorseful about it?

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That's stuck you?

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Sure? Yeah? Why are you?

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Why why do you feel remorse.

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Well? Why? Well? Uh uh hum? Why do you feel

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bad about doing what you did.

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I feel bad about it.

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Why he wants to know why you.

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Feel bad by being around people's sin was happening by

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by age and get older, you get more wise to

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what's happening. And I see things happening, I try to

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go around. That's why I feel bad about it.

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I see, thank you.

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I have no person, mister Higginbos. You got any family?

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You got any family? Yes? Now where are they at today?

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I got four sisters and two brothers. One my brother

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he got Chamcer, he eighted three and one I'm in

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swer Fort, the one you know, trying to stay by.

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He got Champceer he hated three.

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I mean you know I want to be round him

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for you.

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Yeah.

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I got a lot of nephews and nieces and my

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ruge baths Drop Monroe, swell Fort, bad Ruge.

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I got people all in California destroyed.

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I was just wondering why nobody's here with you today?

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Are there with you today?

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Do you know?

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I really don't know?

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My brother you would have been here, but they counts

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the bard you don't want coming up as a siement.

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Okay, I see, all right, thank you, sir. I don't

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see any other questions, mister Higginbotham, I think we're.

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Ready to vote. Mister Prater, my.

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Vote to deny. I think of the horrible nature of

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the crime. I'm having troubles. I'm having trouble getting a

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feeling of remorsefulness out of mister Higginbotham, and I feel

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like that you would give.

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It a life sentence and unless things change that just

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when you need to.

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Sir, mister tell Us, my vote is to recommend coming

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his commutation of since ninety nine years with immediate eligibility

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for perule Missus Stackleton, I'm working.

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My recommendation is to deny.

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This was a cruel brule.

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I'm against nature of a seventeen year old boy by

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five men, which you were involved in. And I do

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not find I couldn't hear any remorse statement either.

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All right, mister Higginbotham, you don't have any family here,

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so I don't see any evidence of any family support.

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You know.

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I will agree that your last write up was a

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long time ago, and you you know you only had

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twenty one write ups, but thirty percent of those were sexiphencies.

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I don't too.

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I have concerns about your lack of programming, particularly victim awareness.

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So my vote today is going to be to deny

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your application. So good luck to you, sir. Today your

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application has been denied.

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So, as you heard, the clemency was denied, but shockingly

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to me, at least one guy voted to recommend the clemency.

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I mean, this dude was convicted of three counts of

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aggravated rape. To me, I don't care how old you

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are aggravated rape, you lose your shot at ever getting

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released from present. In my view, it's my opinion. Yeah,

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he's been in jail forty five years and that's right

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where he's going to stay. And his excuse did you

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hear that, Well, they were going to make me do

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it or they were going to do it to me. Look,

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that may be true, but it's no excuse right now.

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If you're curious how common statistically this takes place throughout

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the country, I'll give you the latest stats I could

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find on that they're around ten thousand cases reported annually

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of inmate on inmate rape, which, considering there's over one

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point two million people that are currently incarcerated, that may

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not seem like a large number. Now consider this, how

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many inmate on inmate. Right cases go unreported, I personally

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would think a lot. I would probably if I put

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a number on it, I probably put fifty five to

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sixty percent go unreported. These guys aren't going to tell

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I mean, that'll get you killed in prison. You're a

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right at that point, right, So how many actually get reported?

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But I would love to hear your thoughts on it.

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Do you think he should have been released at eighty

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five years old? Yes, he's costing the taxpayer's money and

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he's probably not at this stage of his life a

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threat technically to anyone. But should he serve out the

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sentence he was sentenced to, which is life? Let me know,

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just a short clip one story that we did from

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the most recent episode of Crime Wire Weekly.

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All Right, well, look, we're gonna go into our neck

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of the woods. And this is a story that's really

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important to Jim and I both because it's including law enforcement.

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So one deputy was killed and another was seriously injured

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into shooting at the Ibberville Parish Courthouse on Monday night.

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It's kind of a lot of people don't know this,

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but we go by parishes here and not counties, so

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we're different in that respect. Officials said that Deputy Charles

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Riley and Captain Brett Stassey Junior were shot by Latrell

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Clark at the courthouse before eight pm. Staplelice said that

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deputies had brought Clark to the courthouse for questioning connected

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to an ongoing sex crime investigation. That's when state police

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say that Clark grabbed for the gun. Several shots were fired,

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resulting in all three people being struck by gunfire. Deputy

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Riley Clark died at the scene and Captain Stacy Junior

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is fighting for his life. Please pray for the deputy

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we lost and their family, and continue praying for Sheriff

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Stasy's son. Every loss of an officer hits hard. Pray hard.

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And that according to Attorney General Liz Merle. Now Parish

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President Chris Dagole asked for prayers for the Ibberville Parish

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community and for Sheriff Stacy's family as well. It's a

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sad day today in Ibberville Parish and we're praying for

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all of those involved. Ibberville Parish flags were lowered Tuesday

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as the community warns the loss of Deputy Riley, and

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a blood drive is being held for Captain Stacy Junior.

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Now.

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Clark had quite an extensive criminal history. He's been arrested

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four times in East Batanige Parish and twice in Ibberville Parish.

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Clark's earliest arrest in ebr was in twenty fifteen, when

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he was indicted for tributing to the delinquency of minors

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and possession of marijuana, but the case was dismissed two

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years later. He was arrested again in twenty twenty for

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driving a car that was stolen from Hertz rental company.

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The following year, he was booked for stealing a different vehicle.

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Clark was sentenced to one year of supervised probation on

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a reduced charge of theft under one thousand dollars. Instead

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of unauthorized use of amovable All other charges were dismissed.

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In November of twenty twenty four. Clark had two active

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warrants for him in East battanyge Parish, and documents say

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he was accused of shooting a gun into a home

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and a separate domestic violence incident. He was arrested in

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December for battery of a dating partner, aggravated criminal damage

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to property, illegal use of a weapon, and simple criminal

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damage to property. Court records say he bonded out in

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January of twenty twenty five, and he wore an ankle

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monitor until April. In June, he was formally charged with

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a misdemeanor domestic abuse battery charge.

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Yeah, and a couple things there in We'll just start

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with the charges and I'll put a little bit of

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context into that. So with regard to the shooting incident

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where he was firing into the home, it was actually

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his father's house, and he was also firing into the

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truck of his father's And from what I understand, what

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happened was he wanted to borrow his father's truck. His

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dad told him no, he went to leave, and as

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he was leaving, he popped like fifteen rounds into the

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truck of into his dad's truck. He then calls someone

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to pick him up, which was his girlfriend at the

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time from what I understand, and his girlfriend comes and

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picks him up, and he's so pissed off. He eventually

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beats the shit out of her allegedly, and so that

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was what led to the battery charge that you just

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alluded to. But horrific situation. Of course, one of these officers,

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Captain Stassey, his dad is sharing statsity is the sheriff

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in Iberville, Perish and that puts him in a really

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tough position because you know, you've got an officer that

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has been killed, your own son has been shot, and

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you know, horrifically injured. Like it wasn't just a grace,

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I mean, he was seriously injured. And you've got to

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not only be sheriff, but you've got to be a

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dad at the same time. And I cannot imagine my

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heart's thoughts, prayers and all that go out to him

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and everybody who knew and loved both of these gentlemen.

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I hate to see it anytime officers get shot, whether

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it's close to home or not much less get killed.

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It's senseless, all right.

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So obviously, in the court of public opinion, people who

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are not in the know have no no concept whatsoever

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of how law enforcement works. They're going to start interjecting

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and saying, well, why was there a gun in there

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in the first place? Okay, well, listen, typically there wouldn't

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be you know, typically I guess best practices would be

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no weapon in the interrogation room. But whatever the case

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may be, there was a weapon. What it all comes

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down to is that this guy, though decided in an

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instant that he wanted to grab that gun and hurt

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these officers, and he did it. So policies, I'm sure

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we'll change, be updated, There'll be way more training now

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on this. But I don't want to. I don't want

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to rock back on policy and look like we're trying

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to blame anybody for this. It's just people want to know,

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how could this happen? What can we do better? Do

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better in the future. Now I want to add this,

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Thank God that uh Stassy is still hanging in there

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in the hospital. Our prayers absolutely go out to that family,

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to the officer that lost his life. His family's world

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has forever changed. But there is something I saw personally

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yesterday and I want to bring this up. My mother

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is in the hospital and nine people, at minimum nine

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strangers had to sit down, put out their arm and

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give blood to have saved my own mother's life. This

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past week. She got nine bags of blood that complete

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strangers were willing to donate. And I want to thank

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anyone who donates blood. But when I went yesterday to

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go thank the blood bank and I wanted to do

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some type of collaboration with them, I looked in the

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waiting room and you know what I saw, Jim, I

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don't know police officers invest in uniforms sitting there waiting,

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and that's when it dawned on me, Oh my god,

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they're here to give blood for a friend.

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What a gift.

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And you know one thing I didn't speaking of giving blood.

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I never realized this till yesterday when another podcaster that

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I deal with was doing her podcast and she does

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local news here in Louisiana, and she mentioned that, you

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know a lot of the benefits to you. I always

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assume when you're giving blood it's because there's shortages of blood,

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but actually it's a bill thing. You get charged for

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giving blood. Yeah, I never are getting blood? Should I

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say so? If you're in the hospital and you have

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these big blood drives, it helps with your hospital bill.

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I always thought it may I'm just ignorant that it

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was just because you never want to run out of

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blood at the hospital and people are giving it. Yeah,

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that's definitely plays a part. But I yeah, that makes sense.

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But I didn't know you build people for blood.

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Yeah, you get you get a credit and you can

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say whose name you want to apply your blood credit to.

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And seen years on this earth, I didn't realize.

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Now you know, but you would be shocked how much

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and I don't want to be labor this point here,

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but how much blood donation has affected my own family

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because my husband almost died and had multiple I mean

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so many units of blood in a motorcycle accent and

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now here I am, all these years later and my

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own mother. So thank you to everybody that's giving blood,

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that has given blood. And look, if you're looking for

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something good to do, please go to our lady the

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Lake on Essen Lane. It's it's quick and you can

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give blood and you can save a life and reduce

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a bill, and I think those are both great.

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Yeah, you know, I learned something new on that for sure.

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Yeah.

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Thoughts and prayers out to Sheriff Stassy and their family

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in the all sir that was killed as well. Thoughts

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and prayers to his family Clark. Yeah, Deputy Riley Clark,

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his family and friends at all he knew and loved him.

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Amen.

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