May 21, 2025

The Great Escape of the Orleans Parish Jail

The Great Escape of the Orleans Parish Jail
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Season 7

In this episode of “Bloody Angola Podcast” Jim Chapman details the escape of (10) inmates from the Orleans Parish Jail. This escape in which (5) inmates are still at large is the largest escape on record in the State of Louisiana and this episode provides in deep analysis into what happened, why it happened and what can be done in the future to avoid it happening again.


Timestamps
10:56 The Escape Unfolds
26:50 Governor Jeff Landry on Fox News
40:10 Liz Murrill addresses the media on arrest of Sterling Williams
52:39 Political Reactions

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M I Wall Street line, shackle change, Oh weesome, girdy,

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it's calling my name. There is no mercy and it's

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been a century. Juice as the huge stream game Rango three,

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I'm here by.

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Me to die.

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Inside these walls.

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Inside the wild.

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And went no girl as I.

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Hey everyone, and welcome back to Bloody Angola, a podcast

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one hundred and forty two years in the making, the

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complete story of America's bloodiest prison. I'm Jim Chapman, and

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today I have a current news story for you that

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is everywhere in the state of Louisiana and has been

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picked up nationally a lot of your major news networks

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talking about this. It perfectly fits a podcast based around

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and that is the largest prison escape on record in

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Louisiana history going on right now, and we're going to

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talk about it today. What happened? Who is still on

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the loose? What did they do? I've got all the deats,

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So I'm going to take you back to the morning

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of Friday, May sixteenth, at eight thirty am, and during

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a head count at the Orleans Parish Prison, correctional officers

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noticed that a mind blowing, mind blowing ten prisoners were

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missing from a head count, which I can only imagine

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the what the fuck thoughts were going through these officials

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heads at this point. Now, at nine o'clock am, the

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Sheriff of Orleans Parish, Susan Hudson, she is notified. And

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I can only imagine being the guy who had to

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make that call. Could you imagine having to call the

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Sheriff of Orleans Parish and say, I don't know how

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to tell you this, but we're missing ten prisoners. And y'all,

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these were not people that were arrested for jaywalking. Most

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of these guys were in the New Orleans Parish prison

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awaiting trial for murder. So I'm gonna go over with

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you who escaped and what they were in prison for

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right now. Derek Groves was convicted of a double murder

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convicted in a twenty eighteen Marti Gras mass shooting. Corey

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Boyd is accused of second degree murder in a twenty

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twenty three shooting of a guy by the name of

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Brandon Fees during a car burglary. Jermaine Donald, who is

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facing second degree murder charges in aggravated battery charges, Gary Price,

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who was being held for attempted first degree murder Kendall Miles,

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and this guy has a long history of escape. He

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was accused of shooting a man in Uptown, New Orleans.

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Antwine Massey who also has a history of escape, his

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dating back to two thousand and seven. He's been escaping prisons.

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He was being held for domestic violence, theft, kidnapping, and

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rape as well as a parole violation. Lenton van Buren

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he was being held for firearm possession and parole violations,

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and he's accused of a twenty twenty one murder. Leo

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Tate he was booked for burglary and weapons possession. Robert

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Moody he was facing charges for obstruction of justice, drug trafficking,

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and battery. And to Keenan Dennis who was being held

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for arm robbery and weapons chargers. So these guys are

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not people you want on the street obviously. And as

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I said, they discovered these guys were missing in what's

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the first thing they do, Well, they go look at

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the surveillance cameras throughout Orleans Parish prison. And I'm sure

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most of you listening to this have seen throughout social

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media and if you haven't, go google it. But you've

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seen this escape video from OPB. These guys yanked open

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a door cell, they removed a toilet, and then they

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navigate through a maintenance area. From there, they enter a hallway,

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exit a supply door, scale a wall, and you can

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see them literally breaking out of prison and it's like

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nothing you've ever seen in your life. It looks like

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a movie. Just a ton of them just keep coming

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and going through this door. Ten of these guys. Now,

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they didn't just escape. They wanted to do a little

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comic relief, kind of a rub in the face of

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these officials. So during their escape, they decide they're gonna

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graffiti the wall around the toilet that they pulled out

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and went through the hole behind it. And so they

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write the words quote too easy, lol. They also write

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quote catch us when you can, and they also write

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quote most hated nine. And they had a bunch of

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profanity mixed in there as well, talk about adding insult

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to injury to the Orleans Bears prison officials. Now, of course,

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news gets out quick, and Fox eight in New Orleans

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actually receives a tip and they put it out there.

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At ten point fifteen am, there was this big escape

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at Orleans Parish Prison. And this is before the public

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was even made aware of it by officials. Three minutes later,

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at ten eighteen, the Orleans Parish Sheriff's Office realizes this

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has gotten out and somebody had scooped that story, and

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they confirm it. And of course, not only is this

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a public emergency at this point, but it's also a

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political emergency. At this point, the Orleans Parish Sheriff's Office,

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they hold their first news conference. Here's what that sounded up.

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I want to speak directly to the people of New

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Orleans about a very serious and unacceptable situation. Earlier today,

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the Orleans Parish Sheriff's Office discovered that multiple incarcerated individuals escape.

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People of New Orleans both for being here. I want

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to speak directly to the people of New Orleans about

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a very serious and unacceptable situation. Earlier today, the Orleans

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Paris Sheriff's Office discovered that multiple incarcerated individuals escaped from custody.

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What we know right now is that during a retine

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headcount at eight thirty this morning, it was determined that

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several detainees were unaccounted for. Immediately upon discovery, OPSO activated

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emergency protocols and launched a coordinated response to locate and

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return these individuals to custody.

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We are actively working.

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With local, state, and federal law enforcement agencies in a

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full scale search operation.

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While we are in.

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The process of confirming specific details and identities, we are

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urging the public to remain alert. If you see anything

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suspicious or have any information that may assist in locating

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these escapees, please contact law enforcement immediately and we're going

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to give you some contact information. Do not engage or

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approach these subjects. To be accountable and transparent, we are

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launching a full investigation to determine how this escape occurred,

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including reviewing facility protocols, staff performance, and physical security measures.

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Any lapses or failures that contributed to this incident will

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be addressed swiftly and with full accountability.

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The next steps are.

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That OPSO will continue to provide updates to the media

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and public as the investigation progresses and more facts become available.

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We are committed to transparency throughout this process and will

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not rest until all of these individuals are back in

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our custody. I'm going to turn this over now to

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Chief Christopher Goodley, who is over our Field Operations Bureau,

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to talk about how the hunt for these folks is

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going on.

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Good morning, on and thank you so earlier this morning

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we weren't other five of approximately eleven individuals that had

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breached our escape our custody. Those individuals right now will

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name so one thre eleven and Twine Massey.

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All of these are adult males, if you.

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Will, Lynton Van Buren, Jermaine Donald, Leo Tate, Kendall Miles,

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Derek Grooves, Cory Boyd, Gary Price, Robert Moody, the Cannon,

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Dennis and Keith Lewis. All of those suspects are considered

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to be armed and dangerous. So anybody with information will

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encouraged to see something, say something and let us know

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called crime Stoppers or nine one one immediately if you

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see any of these individuals, we want them to return

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them back to justice immediately.

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I'm now going to turn it over to Major Silace

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Slips Junior, who was the leader of the Investigative Services Bureau,

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to talk a little bit about the ongoing investigation.

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Thank you, CHERYV. Good morning.

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I'm going to be very brief, so we do have

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information on when the subjects left our custody.

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We are working every angle.

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At this point as the sheriff said, with all of

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our local, state, and federal partners to get them back

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into custody. I just want to remind the public and

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anyone that may be assisting them that if we identify

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you and can prove that you are assisting them, we

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will prosecute you along with them to the fullest extent

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of the law. We will provide additional information from the

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investigatory side as it becomes available, which will include a timeline.

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I know Chief Goodly already mentioned the names. We will

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also be providing you those photographs, and we ask that

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you keep those plastered out throughout all of the new

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stations that are here.

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Thank you, Major.

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We will be disseminating the photos of these individuals as well.

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In closing, I want to let you know our top

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priority right now is the safety of the public and

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returning these individuals to our custody without delay.

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I want to thank our.

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Deputies and our law enforcement partners who were working around

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the clock to resolve this matter. We asked for the

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community's vigilance and cooperation during this process, and I want

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to just emphasize something else. Major said, anyone who helped

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or contributed to this escape will be held countable to

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the fullest extent of the law.

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In a couple of things about what you just heard then,

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I'm sure you noticed they mentioned eleven escapees. Well, they

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found out shortly later that one of those men, a

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guy by the name of Keith Lewis that they mentioned,

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he was misidentified as an escapee. He had actually been

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moved to another unit within the jail, and they didn't

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realize that and thought he was part of the escape.

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And look, that's a problem in and of itself. Essentially

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until this news conference, they didn't even realize that one

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guy was still present in the prison. I mean, they

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don't even know who they have in there, much less

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who's escaped, right, It's ridiculous. And some quick things to note.

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The escape itself occurred at twelve twenty am, but it

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wasn't discovered until a head count at eight point thirty am,

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which is absolutely crazy. Eight plus hour head start that

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these guys had. That is a long time to get

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out of dodge. Also important is that these inmates, two

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of them in particular, they had a major history of escape,

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and in addition to that, just about every one of

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them were being held in a minimum security wing. Of

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that prison, and there were murderers. All of them were murderers.

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Pretty much, there's no excuse for that. Now. Of course,

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the employees that were working during this time, not only

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are they going to go under investigation immediately, but also

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three of those went on suspension immediately. And that's the

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very least that's going to happen to him. The very

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least is they're going to get fired. The very worst

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is they're going to end up in prison because they're

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going to start investigating this, and it already was looking

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like an inside job. Now, it didn't take them long

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to catch their first escape ee. As a matter of fact,

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by eleven o'clock, the first innate, Kendall Miles, was captured

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in the French Quarter, of all places, where there's all

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kinds of tourists and the last thing you want is

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an escapee on the loose in the French Quarter. The

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way he was caught was he went to the French Quarter,

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as I said, and if you escape from prison in

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New Orleans, don't go to the French Quarter, because they

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have what's known as facial recognition cameras. Essentially, police take

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a photo of that escapee, they uploaded and there's technology

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that kind of places that into the memory of these

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security cameras, and the second the security camera picks up

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on a face that looks like that picture, it alerts police.

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And that's exactly how this individual was caught. Now, not

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long after he was caught, as a matter of fact,

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the same day, a second escapee was tracked down after

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someone called a tip line and basically righted him out.

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And not long after that, a third escapee was caught

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on the east side of New Orleans, opposite of the

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French Quarter. And at this point, it's looking like they're

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going to catch everybody really quickly. Right, they had already

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caught three out of the ten escapees and it's the

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first day. Unfortunately, it will get very slow after that. Now,

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the governor came out not only in local media with

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a press conference, but also the national media. And I'm

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going to play you that first presser from Louisiana Governor

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Jeff Landry regarding the escape And you've heard me talk

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about Jeff Landry in the past, a very tough on

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crime governor, and he was pissed, to say the least.

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Listen to this brings us.

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To why we are here today. Which is a failure

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in the jail system. This massive jail break, which my

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statistics tell me could be the largest jail break in

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the history of the state, should never have happened, and

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the public deserves to know who.

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What, and how this happened.

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The responsibility for answering those questions will fall to the

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Attorney General.

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Her office will lead.

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The investigation into this jail break. I've also ordered the

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Department of Corrections to audit the Orleans Parish Correctional Facility

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for compliance with basic jail guidelines and to remove all

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doc inmates that were currently in the Orleans Parish Correctional Facility.

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I will be issuing an executive order that instructs the

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State Inspector General to get an inventory from the Sheriff

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of all pre trial detainees in those awaiting sentences, like

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Derek Groves, the escapee who pled guilty to manslaughter in

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October of last.

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Year and was awaiting sentencing.

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If he would have been sentenced by our court system,

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he most likely would not have had an opportunity to escape.

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That's extremely important now.

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Once a person is booked, is arrested, is arrested in

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booked case, then goes to the district Attorney or the

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Attorney General.

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That is the second leg of our three legged stool.

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Prosecutors who dismiss cases and release violent criminals must be addressed.

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Five of these escapees.

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Had been charged while in jail. Kendall, Miles, Letton van

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Berg were charged with battery on correctional offices. Those charges

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were refused by the district attorney. Robert Moody, Jeremaine, Jermaine Donald,

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and Letting van Berg were all charged with contraband in jail.

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Their charges were refused by the district attorney. Prosecutors who

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are unprepared and delayed cases for years must be addressed

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in his court system. Nine of the ten escapees have

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been in the pre trial stages in OPCC for years now.

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Resolving these cases requires cooperation between the district Attorney and judges,

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as only the judge has the ability to continue these cases.

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I'm asking the DA to explain to us and to

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the public why these cases are not progressing.

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The third leg of our stool is our courts.

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Last year, I requested the Louisiana Supreme Court to do

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an in depth review of the.

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Orleans criminal court system.

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They issued a finding and I've been working with inside

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the criminal court system to reprimand and to remove judges

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who are not properly administering their cases. We also established

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a more robust judicial Commission.

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By constitutional amendment.

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Last year that was passed by the voters. Commission has

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recently been seated. I will be issuing an executive order

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asking the new Judiciary Commission to establish triggers for investigations

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by them, particularly in judicial districts with high crime rates,

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such as Arlen's East, Baton, Rouge, Rapids, Caddo. This executive

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order will mandate the Commission to specify specific review triggers,

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including reviewing the number of judge trials and acquittal rates

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in criminal courts.

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There should be an automatic review.

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Of any judge that has a disproportionate number of acquittals,

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as we have seen here.

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In Orleans Parish.

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Judges with cases of clear evidence of guilt but resulting

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in acquittals should be scrutinized investigating cases that take.

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Too long to go to trial.

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As I mentioned, nine of these ten escapees were sitting

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in jail waiting to go to trial. Had they gone

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to trial, had they been convicted, had they been sentenced,

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they will most likely not be in Orleans Parish jail,

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but in.

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Our custody in one of the state penitentiaries.

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Addressing judges' failures to revoke probation for violations. Last year,

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our Secretary of Corrections highlighted the lenient enforcement of probation

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terms for violent offenders and the need for appropriate sentences.

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I passed that letter out to the press it was

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in December of last year, to both the District Attorney

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and to the judges.

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I urged both the Arleys Parish District.

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Attorney and the Criminal District Court to reevaluate the sentencing

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and take probation violations seriously. Probation should not be used

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to keep violent criminals from going to jail. I repeat

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probation is not for violent criminals. The docket is also

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a key. My understanding is that the Orleans Parish Jail

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is beyond capacity because again the cases are not moving,

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such as nine of the ten escapees.

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Now.

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There is no excuse for the escape of these violent offenders.

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There is also no excuse for the way these cases

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are currently being mismanaged in our criminal justice system, whether

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it's an escapeee or a release. We deserve the public

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deserves to know why, and not just in Orleans Parish,

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but around the rest of the state as well. That

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brings us to a data issue. I'm also requesting that

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the Metropolitan Crime Commission work in the most violent crime

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cities in the state to establish a data modeling system

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similar to what they're doing here in our Leans. This

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will include regular reporting of crime data from the point

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of arrests to the point of conviction.

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I'm hoping.

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That not only summer, but some sunlight has arrived in Louisiana.

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In closing, I continue to believe that our citizens want

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law and order, They want security in their neighborhoods, and

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they want safe streets for their children. The frustration grows

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with a broken criminal justice system, our taxpayers and our

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citizens to serve transparency and accountability. The issues that I

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have laid out and the executive orders that we will

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follow will demand that this city has misled, has been

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misled by those who pour out of state money funding

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the promise of justice reform, electing officials with no frontline experience,

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and those who panned their voters lead to lack of

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safety and order, which is why we are standing here today,

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which is why so many of our law enforcement agencies

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have to comb this city, in this street.

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Hunting down some of the most dangerous criminals. The rony.

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Of the progressive promises that have been made to this

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city is clear.

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New Orleans handed the jail.

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Keys to those who vowed to keep criminals out of jail,

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and sadly.

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Today we show that it worked.

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I hope that everyone understands that the video of those

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prisoners escapee epitomizes a progressive criminal justice system. I again

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would ask the public for their prayers and thoughts of

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all of those law enforcement agents who are working diligently

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to hunt down these fugitives. We will find them and

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we will bring them back to justice. And to repeat

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what the colonel said, if anybody harbors them, if anybody

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aiges them and we find out, we will arrest you

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and we will bring you to justice as well.

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Thank you so in that he did mention a lot

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of things that would be great ideas, no doubt about it.

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Definitely there are problems with individuals taking too long to

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get through the justice system, but I feel like they

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still aren't getting to the heart of the problem, if

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you will, which is everything from lacks of days. Staff

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at that prison is shit just falling apart in there.

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I mean, there's no reason this should have happened. They

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shouldn't have been able to pull on a door to

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the point that they busted the lock. I mean, these

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are prison locks, they're not bike locks. And as I said,

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Governor Jeff Landry also went on the national media. He

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did a short interview with Fox News and here's what

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that sounded like.

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Governor, welcome to you.

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I know we're welcoming you from the White House as

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you are joining the President for some events there today.

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First up, are you going to find all these guys?

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Oh?

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Yeah, we are going to find them at first So

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I want to thank the FBI, the US Marshalls atf

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the Louisiana State Police Troop Nola NPD. We have got

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hundreds of law enforcement agents that are working twenty four

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and seven around o'clock hunting these folks down. We were

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able to grab three of them right close within the

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first twenty five four hours after the jail break. Of course,

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you gotta remember, Sandra, we didn't know that they had

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left the jail, that they had walked out of the

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front door for about ten hours. We didn't get that

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report from the sheriff, and so those inmates had.

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About a ten hour lead on law enforcement.

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But they're doing our folks are doing a great job,

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and we're gonna hunt them down.

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I mean, of course you got it, Jack, go ahead, Yeah,

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I mean, Governor, from the looks of it, you can

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tell us it doesn't look like this was a sophisticated,

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you know, jail break. I mean they're even bragging about

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how easy it was to get out of there.

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How did this happen?

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Well, look, I think if you look at the criminal

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justice system as a whole in New Orleans, you will

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see the problem. Several years ago, George Soros came over

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to New Orleans like Santa Claus that unpacked the district attorney,

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six judges, and a sheriff. And this is what criminal

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This is what progressive criminal, a progressive criminal justice system

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looks like, Sandra, this is what happens when those people

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promise that to keep criminals out of jail. Sadly, you

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get keen of the most dangerous inmates that are in

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jail in Louisiana, they get to escape, all right.

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So this is a former FBI agent Bobby chacone on.

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He's suggesting on what the inmates may have had and

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what sort of help they may have had. Godn I

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listen here.

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They probably had help on the inside and the outside.

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So you know now that they had help on the

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inside getting out, and now they held at the jail

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both by the specific individuals and the system as a whole.

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Okay, So if it turns out that this was sort

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of some inside job, how will those who help them

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escape be held accountable?

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Oh?

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They will.

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They're going to go to jail as well.

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Look, we have put a twenty thousand dollars bounty on

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each one of the seven that are steel at large.

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That's very important, and that's what's working with.

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The Attorney General is going to conduct a very very

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thorough investigation of what happened. Sure that once that investigation

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is complete, she will release it.

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You'll have plenty of things to talk about then.

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But not only those people who may have aided and

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a betted them to get out, but those who continue

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to aid and abet them if we find them, If

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we find that you have aided and a bed at

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these fugitives, you're going to jail as well.

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Well.

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We know that we know the records. We know they're

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bad guys. We've got them up on the screen. We

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know they're probably tired, probably hungry, probably pretty desperate. Right now, Governor,

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you have a tip line up. You're asking for any

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tip lines to come in. We know that they you know,

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one of the first guys caught in the hours we

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learned about this jail break was caught right there in

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a parking garage at a hotel in New Orleans, hiding

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under a car. But a lot of time has passed

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and they could be beyond state lines. Now, do you

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have any more information about where some of these people are.

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We have been getting a lot of tips, and the

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tips have been coming in all day, all night long,

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and of course every time a tip comes in, our group,

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which is composed of federal, state, and local partners, start

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running those tips down. We have reason to believe that

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most of them are still in the state Louisiana, most

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of them most likely or in the city of New Orleans.

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We run down tips if we believe they're outside of that.

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We have notified other jurisdictions outside of Louisiana when those

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tips have come in and we believe that they may

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be say, in another state. But I can tell you, Sandro,

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We've got many women, women working around the clock. We're

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gonna hunt these folks down. We're going to find them

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and we're going to bring them back to a jail

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that they can't break out of.

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Well, we have full confidence that'll be the case, and

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we know they're on it. We've got a live picture

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up by the way. We're told this is a news

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conference as beginning in your state shortly, Governor, with the

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District Attorney's office there in New Orleans. Hopefully they've got

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some news for us as soon as anything comes from there.

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We're going to go there live. Governor.

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Before you go, and I know you've got this event

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with the President there shortly, I want to ask you

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about this executive order that you've issued in your state

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directing state law enforcement agencies now to assist federal immigrants

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operations and enforcement, urging these local police authorities and agencies

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to join the federal effort on immigration. You're calling this

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effort Operation go geau X and describing it as a

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historical partnership with the federal government. What can you tell

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us about this and why is this so important to you?

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Governor?

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Look, this has been something that's been in the works

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for quite some time. We want to stay inside by

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side with President Trump in making sure that those that

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have come into the country illegally and then commit acts

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of violence or acts of criminal acts, that we end

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up not only putting them in jail, but ending up

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deporting them as well.

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We want to do our part.

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We don't want people in our country that are breaking

485
00:31:42.960 --> 00:31:46.880
our criminal laws. We've got enough problems with American citizens

486
00:31:46.920 --> 00:31:49.680
who are breaking our criminal laws, and so we're standing

487
00:31:49.720 --> 00:31:52.920
side by side with the Trump administration. We have basically

488
00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:56.440
given our law enforcement agents in the state Louisiana the

489
00:31:56.519 --> 00:31:58.480
authority to enforce immigration laws.

490
00:31:58.599 --> 00:31:59.720
We're going to be working on.

491
00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:03.640
Some other issue, some other processes that would allow us

492
00:32:03.799 --> 00:32:08.160
to deport those that break the law in Louisiana, that

493
00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:11.319
being state criminal laws, and be able to deport them

494
00:32:11.400 --> 00:32:11.759
right away.

495
00:32:11.839 --> 00:32:13.559
We're working with ICE to do that as.

496
00:32:13.400 --> 00:32:16.079
Well, and we'll give you an update on that soon.

497
00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:18.160
Yeah, and we know that this is a priority for

498
00:32:18.200 --> 00:32:20.440
so many Americans, and we saw that in the last

499
00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:23.480
election and it continues to be one of the biggest

500
00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:26.680
reasons that those voters are supporting President Trump today. Is

501
00:32:26.720 --> 00:32:30.720
immigration efforts. Governor, we appreciate your time today and thanks

502
00:32:30.759 --> 00:32:33.359
for the update from the great state of Louisiana. But

503
00:32:33.400 --> 00:32:36.039
in Washington, d C. Today at the White House, Governor,

504
00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:37.599
thank you, thank you.

505
00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:43.839
Now, nearly three days have passed before investigators had another

506
00:32:43.880 --> 00:32:48.119
breakthrough and a fourth man was taken into custody in

507
00:32:48.279 --> 00:32:52.440
New Orleans. And as I've told you, the first three escapees,

508
00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:57.039
Kendall Miles, Robert Moody, and the Keyan Dennis, they were

509
00:32:57.079 --> 00:33:01.160
captured on Friday May sixteenth. This fourth guy, Gary Price,

510
00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:06.160
he was apprehended on Monday, May nineteenth, and he was

511
00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:10.759
found hiding under a car in the French Quarter. So

512
00:33:11.160 --> 00:33:15.319
at this point in time, you've still got six escapees

513
00:33:15.400 --> 00:33:19.839
at large, and investigators by this time they know it

514
00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:23.000
was an inside job of some sort. They're gathering some

515
00:33:23.039 --> 00:33:28.359
evidence and this leads to the following arrest affidavit for

516
00:33:28.519 --> 00:33:32.160
the arrest of Sterling Williams. And I'm going to cover

517
00:33:32.200 --> 00:33:34.079
that affidavit. I have it in front of me. It's

518
00:33:34.119 --> 00:33:39.519
relatively short, and here's how it read. On Friday May sixteenth,

519
00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:43.640
twenty twenty five, at approximately four o'clock pm, the Louisiana

520
00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:47.559
Bureau of Investigation special Agent and it redacts the name

521
00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:52.119
was assigned an investigation involving the escape of ten inmates

522
00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:57.119
from the Orleans Parish Correctional Center. According to initial information,

523
00:33:57.359 --> 00:34:01.319
the ten inmates escaped from the correction center at approximately

524
00:34:01.400 --> 00:34:06.000
one oh one am on five, sixteen twenty five. Initial

525
00:34:06.039 --> 00:34:11.360
information received from OPSO Sheriff indicated that the inmates escape

526
00:34:11.400 --> 00:34:15.079
by removing a seat toilet combination unit from a cell,

527
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:20.360
then using an unknown apparatus to saw steel bars behind

528
00:34:20.400 --> 00:34:24.360
the cell room sinc. After bending the bars, the inmates

529
00:34:24.559 --> 00:34:29.639
escaped to the outdoor unsecured pipewalk area, before eventually scaling

530
00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:33.480
the jail wall to complete the escape. Agents were assigned

531
00:34:33.480 --> 00:34:37.280
to review information in an attempt to determine if anyone

532
00:34:37.440 --> 00:34:41.760
from the staff or outside personnel assisted in the escape.

533
00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:47.440
During a mirandized interview with Williams, referring to Sterling Williams,

534
00:34:47.719 --> 00:34:51.039
he explained to agents that he turned off the water

535
00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:56.159
from outside pipewalk area on the exterior of Cell six

536
00:34:56.639 --> 00:35:00.320
under direction of a light skinned blackmail with tach who's

537
00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:04.320
on his face, who he named as Quote Massey formerly

538
00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:08.519
known as Antwin Massey, who threatened to shank him if

539
00:35:08.559 --> 00:35:11.599
he did not turn the water off. Massey was one

540
00:35:11.639 --> 00:35:16.760
of ten inmates who escaped opso. Additionally, Williams was observed

541
00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:21.559
on video surveillance footage in the one D pod standing

542
00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:25.079
in the open door talking with Derek Groves and Twine

543
00:35:25.119 --> 00:35:30.079
Massey and another unidentified inmate. Williams stated at that time

544
00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:32.920
Groves tried to take his phone from him and attempted

545
00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:35.880
to get Williams to bring a book with cash app

546
00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:40.559
information to his cousin in the next pod over. In closing,

547
00:35:40.639 --> 00:35:43.920
Williams confessed to agents that he did, in fact go

548
00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:46.880
to the pipe chase via the outside door on the

549
00:35:46.920 --> 00:35:50.280
rear loading dock and turn off the water by closing

550
00:35:50.320 --> 00:35:53.679
the valve. By turning off the water to sell six,

551
00:35:53.880 --> 00:35:58.400
Williams willfully and maliciously assisted with the escape of ten inmates.

552
00:35:58.840 --> 00:36:01.639
With the water being turned off, the inmates were able

553
00:36:01.679 --> 00:36:05.480
to successfully make good on their escape. Williams admitted to

554
00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:08.440
agents he committed the acts after he was directed to

555
00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:11.239
do so by one of the inmates who escaped in

556
00:36:11.400 --> 00:36:16.960
Twan Massey. Because of Williams's actions, ten inmates from Orleans

557
00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:20.440
Paris Sheriff's Office Correctional Center were able to escape from

558
00:36:20.480 --> 00:36:23.840
the plumbing area where Williams turned the water off at

559
00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:27.400
the behest of massy. If the inmates removed the sink

560
00:36:27.519 --> 00:36:30.320
in the cell and disconnected the rest of the plumbing

561
00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:33.159
with the water still on, the plan to escape would

562
00:36:33.239 --> 00:36:37.119
not have been successful and potentially flooded the cell, drawing

563
00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:41.239
the attention to their actions. For these reasons, agents believe

564
00:36:41.400 --> 00:36:46.360
Williams to be a principal two ten counts of simple escape. Additionally,

565
00:36:46.599 --> 00:36:49.280
due to the fact that Williams acted under the order

566
00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:52.039
of an inmate to turn the water off in Cell six,

567
00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:55.199
the cell of the inmates used to execute the plan

568
00:36:55.639 --> 00:36:59.639
is in violation of mouth seasons in the office. Furthermore,

569
00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:03.599
Weiams did not notify authorities of the plan the inmates

570
00:37:03.639 --> 00:37:07.360
had to escape. Instead, he committed the acts that ultimately

571
00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:11.599
assisted the inmates with making good on their escapes. Williams

572
00:37:11.639 --> 00:37:15.320
did not come forward, and when confronted by agents, Williams

573
00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:20.280
was initially very evasive and untruthful, but eventually became forthcoming

574
00:37:20.360 --> 00:37:27.000
and provided evidentiary information period And this guy is now

575
00:37:27.400 --> 00:37:30.360
in a world of shit. And I'm going to tell

576
00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:34.519
you how goofy some of the news media can be

577
00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:38.760
I'm about to play you another clip featuring Attorney General

578
00:37:38.840 --> 00:37:41.920
Liz Murrell, who you haven't heard from yet. She was

579
00:37:41.960 --> 00:37:46.079
holding a press conference on this very arrest. And one

580
00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:50.679
of the questions asked in this press conference by a reporter, well,

581
00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:53.079
I can only say he alluded to the fact that

582
00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:56.320
maybe this guy didn't deserve to be arrested because he

583
00:37:56.400 --> 00:37:59.719
says he was threatened to be shanked. And then this

584
00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:04.079
Oloran reporter, in my opinion, goes on to say, I mean,

585
00:38:04.119 --> 00:38:06.400
if it were me, I'd probably turn off the water

586
00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:08.320
if I was threatened to be shanked. I mean, you

587
00:38:08.360 --> 00:38:12.800
can't make that shit up. That's a stupid statement by

588
00:38:12.800 --> 00:38:15.760
that reporter. All that guy had to do was report

589
00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:18.320
that that he just got threatened to be shanked, and

590
00:38:18.360 --> 00:38:22.400
the dude that threatened him would have been dealt with. Now, granted,

591
00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:25.840
this guy wasn't a correctional officer. He was a maintenance

592
00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:29.559
worker at the facility, employed by the facility, but it's

593
00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:33.880
still no excuse. So here's that press conference in full,

594
00:38:33.960 --> 00:38:35.760
and I'm going to play it in full because there's

595
00:38:35.800 --> 00:38:38.840
a lot of good questions and answers back and forth

596
00:38:39.000 --> 00:38:42.559
from reporters and Liz murrel that you really need to hear.

597
00:38:42.760 --> 00:38:45.920
Once again, This is the Attorney General holding a presser

598
00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:50.039
on the arrest of maintenance worker Sterling Williams.

599
00:38:50.159 --> 00:38:54.559
All Right, so my office today announced that we booked

600
00:38:54.559 --> 00:38:57.679
an individual last night and processed him on ten counts

601
00:38:57.679 --> 00:39:03.239
of principle to escape from a penal institution, and we've

602
00:39:03.280 --> 00:39:06.000
also charged him with one count of malfeasance in office.

603
00:39:06.599 --> 00:39:10.719
That individual was a maintenance worker at the facility and

604
00:39:10.760 --> 00:39:13.239
we believe him to have been involved in turning the

605
00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:18.000
water off in connection with this event. This investigation is

606
00:39:18.039 --> 00:39:21.000
still an ongoing investigation and so there could be.

607
00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:22.159
More arrests that will follow.

608
00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:26.679
Those charges could also be upgraded or changed or attitude.

609
00:39:26.760 --> 00:39:28.760
So I'm happy to take any questions that you have.

610
00:39:29.000 --> 00:39:33.159
Has this chiny general high the individual who left to

611
00:39:33.239 --> 00:39:35.400
go getting food that card been suspended.

612
00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:38.719
That's the personnel side of things you have to ask

613
00:39:38.960 --> 00:39:43.000
the sheriff about. So that's an administrative question. I mean,

614
00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:46.079
we haven't filed charges against anybody else yet.

615
00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:49.679
That's on the staff the Sheriff's office had directed at that.

616
00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:53.599
Basically, well, if they suspended the person as an administrative

617
00:39:53.599 --> 00:39:56.159
manner that matter, than the Sheriff's office shell to be

618
00:39:56.199 --> 00:39:57.519
able to confirm.

619
00:39:57.159 --> 00:39:59.039
That fuse good.

620
00:39:59.159 --> 00:40:05.559
Question One, is mister william collaborating with the investigation.

621
00:40:05.760 --> 00:40:08.920
No, we're talking about it's sort of things that happened.

622
00:40:09.159 --> 00:40:10.360
Prior to the escapement.

623
00:40:10.960 --> 00:40:13.440
And number two, what do you buy.

624
00:40:14.119 --> 00:40:16.920
Of his uh saying that that you had to do

625
00:40:17.079 --> 00:40:21.320
this because one of the escapees threatned to shanky.

626
00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:23.119
Oh?

627
00:40:23.159 --> 00:40:25.760
Look, I think that he made some bad decisions.

628
00:40:25.840 --> 00:40:27.760
I mean, I don't think that he had to do

629
00:40:27.800 --> 00:40:28.960
any of the things that he did.

630
00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:32.159
And you know, if he was under threat.

631
00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:34.400
Then he certainly should have brought that to someone else's attention.

632
00:40:35.440 --> 00:40:36.480
But you know, our.

633
00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:40.480
The facts that I'm aware of indicate that there were

634
00:40:40.559 --> 00:40:42.800
multiple opportunities to do that, to bring it to the

635
00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:46.239
attention of authorities. If he wants to bring that up

636
00:40:46.239 --> 00:40:50.679
in his defense, then that's a matter for his defense attorneys.

637
00:40:51.480 --> 00:40:53.559
I'm not going to speak to the conversations that we've

638
00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:54.480
had with the individual.

639
00:40:54.559 --> 00:40:58.280
Did mister Williams have charge it before any pre dios

640
00:40:58.320 --> 00:40:59.280
criminal records.

641
00:40:59.039 --> 00:40:59.880
Not that I'm aware of.

642
00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:05.840
You used the term maliciously assisted in the affid David,

643
00:41:06.159 --> 00:41:09.840
And I know he described the reason why he did

644
00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:13.000
this as him being threatened to have been shaked. I

645
00:41:13.039 --> 00:41:14.400
know that if I was put in a position, I

646
00:41:14.440 --> 00:41:18.599
would be, you know, really disturbed and not knowing what

647
00:41:18.719 --> 00:41:21.920
to do. You know, why would you use the word maliciously?

648
00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:24.960
Look, it's I think it's legal terms for the report.

649
00:41:25.079 --> 00:41:28.800
Maliciously assisted in an escape means you intended to assist

650
00:41:28.880 --> 00:41:31.760
ten individuals to escape from a penal institution like I don't,

651
00:41:32.159 --> 00:41:34.480
or from a jail or you know, a prison. Since

652
00:41:34.519 --> 00:41:38.800
we've had these conversations about jail's, prisons and different facilities,

653
00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:42.599
but you know he intended to assist these individuals to

654
00:41:42.679 --> 00:41:43.719
leave that facility.

655
00:41:44.079 --> 00:41:45.599
That's why we use those terms.

656
00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:49.760
Attorney General Milkate with New Nation, just wondering in the

657
00:41:49.840 --> 00:41:52.800
arrest AFFI David it said that he was untruthful.

658
00:41:53.280 --> 00:41:55.880
Did he originally lie to investigators?

659
00:41:57.400 --> 00:42:00.159
As I appreciated, he denied his involvement in the outset,

660
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:03.960
but he's now you know, we've gotten more information and

661
00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:05.320
that's the basis for the arrest.

662
00:42:05.960 --> 00:42:08.280
Can you starve some those estions of other people.

663
00:42:08.039 --> 00:42:10.880
Who are under investigation, so what their dogs might be the.

664
00:42:11.079 --> 00:42:14.039
Les I really can't speak to the details of that.

665
00:42:14.199 --> 00:42:17.440
I can tell you that we have and still are

666
00:42:17.639 --> 00:42:22.519
conducting a very thorough investigation of the staff. My investigation

667
00:42:22.679 --> 00:42:26.280
won't just stop with the acute event. We will also

668
00:42:26.400 --> 00:42:31.320
look at broader conditions at the facility, and I'm also

669
00:42:31.400 --> 00:42:34.480
looking at contributing factors that may not be in the

670
00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:37.400
control of the sheriff at that facility, like the number

671
00:42:37.400 --> 00:42:39.880
of people that she has housed there and how long

672
00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:42.559
they're staying there and what they're there for, and whether

673
00:42:42.599 --> 00:42:44.960
there's a backlog in the court system that could address

674
00:42:44.960 --> 00:42:48.239
some of this problems. So at the acute event, what

675
00:42:48.280 --> 00:42:53.159
the contributing individuals were, what their participation was, everything that

676
00:42:53.239 --> 00:42:56.679
happened before these ten people climbed over that wall.

677
00:42:57.519 --> 00:42:59.320
But that will also back out.

678
00:42:59.159 --> 00:43:02.599
Into other things that might be contributing to conditions at

679
00:43:02.599 --> 00:43:05.000
the prison. I know that the sheriff has indicated that

680
00:43:05.559 --> 00:43:08.000
she has concerns about locks on doors, and she's been

681
00:43:08.039 --> 00:43:10.840
asking to replace those. The governor is sending in an

682
00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:13.159
audit team so that he can look at those facility

683
00:43:13.239 --> 00:43:15.719
questions and make sure that we can address those problems.

684
00:43:16.079 --> 00:43:19.400
Our intent is to make sure that this never happens again,

685
00:43:19.559 --> 00:43:21.440
and so you know, we're going to look at all

686
00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:24.079
the things that we need to do to change those

687
00:43:24.119 --> 00:43:28.360
conditions and at the same time hold everyone accountable that

688
00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:31.320
may have been involved before, during, and after.

689
00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:34.519
Can you believe they're still in Moorland at this time?

690
00:43:34.599 --> 00:43:35.559
Before the rowboats?

691
00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:38.880
The State Police have been leading the command, and the

692
00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:41.400
US Marshals I think are involved in that. My office

693
00:43:41.440 --> 00:43:45.480
has been involved with providing some resources in that pursuit.

694
00:43:46.400 --> 00:43:47.679
So I really couldn't tell you.

695
00:43:47.719 --> 00:43:49.960
I think they've had the capacity to leave the city,

696
00:43:50.760 --> 00:43:54.119
that just the time involved with them being out gives

697
00:43:54.159 --> 00:43:56.920
them the capacity to leave. Now, the reality of that

698
00:43:57.079 --> 00:43:59.159
is they have to get resources to be able to leave.

699
00:43:59.400 --> 00:44:01.039
And we have cautioned uh.

700
00:44:01.239 --> 00:44:03.719
Everyone I think has been clear that if you are

701
00:44:03.760 --> 00:44:07.880
assisting these individuals or having assisted these individuals, you should stop.

702
00:44:08.519 --> 00:44:10.960
If you if you are assisting them, then we're going

703
00:44:11.000 --> 00:44:13.719
to a restroom. We're going to prosecute you for assisting

704
00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:14.440
in the escape.

705
00:44:14.960 --> 00:44:15.079
Uh.

706
00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:17.440
So you know that's that's not a good thing to

707
00:44:17.480 --> 00:44:19.760
do for anybody, is to continue to help them.

708
00:44:20.280 --> 00:44:20.519
Uh.

709
00:44:20.559 --> 00:44:22.199
And and I think the more help they get, the

710
00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:25.119
more likely it is that they're able to move further away, ma'am.

711
00:44:25.159 --> 00:44:28.880
If I remember the governor asking hang on, the governor

712
00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:31.360
saying just a couple of days ago that this is

713
00:44:31.400 --> 00:44:35.000
probably the largest prison break in state's history. When was

714
00:44:35.039 --> 00:44:38.519
the last time that there was a prison break this big?

715
00:44:38.719 --> 00:44:41.199
And how long did it take the catch everyone?

716
00:44:42.360 --> 00:44:45.039
You know, my research indicates that the lark and you

717
00:44:45.079 --> 00:44:47.639
can check this. I mean, I just kind of ran

718
00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:51.440
a quick search on it. I can't find a larger

719
00:44:51.480 --> 00:44:54.840
one in the entire country, not just in the in

720
00:44:54.880 --> 00:44:57.960
the state. But three people is the max that I

721
00:44:58.079 --> 00:45:00.320
was able to confirm of the last one. And I

722
00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:02.400
couldn't tell you which one it was, but the maximum

723
00:45:02.519 --> 00:45:03.440
number was three.

724
00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:05.559
So you know, I have.

725
00:45:05.679 --> 00:45:10.280
Emphasized to everybody involved, including the sheriff and and and

726
00:45:10.480 --> 00:45:11.599
everybody else, that.

727
00:45:11.719 --> 00:45:12.639
This is a big deal.

728
00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:15.119
It is a big deal, and and I don't think

729
00:45:15.159 --> 00:45:17.360
anybody thinks that it's not. You know, there's still six

730
00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:20.760
people that are out. We need to find them. There

731
00:45:20.760 --> 00:45:23.079
are a lot of people, including the district attorney, who

732
00:45:23.119 --> 00:45:26.320
are rightfully very uncomfortable and worried about his staff and

733
00:45:26.360 --> 00:45:31.159
his own safety and his family. They're witnesses and victims,

734
00:45:31.239 --> 00:45:33.639
and all of those people are very rightfully, very.

735
00:45:33.639 --> 00:45:35.000
Unnerved by all of this.

736
00:45:35.199 --> 00:45:36.920
And so time is of the essence, and we are

737
00:45:36.920 --> 00:45:40.280
doing everything within our power, all the boots are on

738
00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:43.000
the ground to try and recover these individuals, and all

739
00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:45.960
the resources that are at our disposable, including working with

740
00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:46.800
the FBI.

741
00:45:46.679 --> 00:45:52.599
To recover them. Can you let me he he had

742
00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:54.440
a question first, Let me sure.

743
00:45:56.280 --> 00:45:59.880
Okay, Wally chefs have centered with not built to be

744
00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:01.400
I'm axim security prison.

745
00:46:02.039 --> 00:46:03.840
Fat in mind why we're so big.

746
00:46:04.039 --> 00:46:08.599
State inmates still palace at the jail post convictions.

747
00:46:08.719 --> 00:46:10.800
So there weren't a lot of state inmates there to

748
00:46:10.880 --> 00:46:15.039
my as my understanding is the total number of DOC

749
00:46:15.159 --> 00:46:19.920
classified inmates was right around sixty. This is a facility

750
00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:23.320
that is approved to house fourteen hundred people and it

751
00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:25.119
was about at that capacity.

752
00:46:25.440 --> 00:46:27.840
So sixty is not a lot of DOC inmates.

753
00:46:28.559 --> 00:46:31.079
The reason for them being there, I can't speak to

754
00:46:31.199 --> 00:46:33.320
the Department of Corrections can but it may be that

755
00:46:33.360 --> 00:46:36.119
they were being held there pre trial for other charges,

756
00:46:36.360 --> 00:46:39.079
for all violations, things like that. Those are some of

757
00:46:39.119 --> 00:46:42.199
the reasons why you might have somebody in a local

758
00:46:42.320 --> 00:46:45.960
jail that's at capacity like that, and so you know

759
00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:47.159
they have been removed.

760
00:46:47.199 --> 00:46:48.719
They were removed over the weekend.

761
00:46:49.519 --> 00:46:52.239
Sixty people is not going to reduce the number enough.

762
00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:56.280
I would like to see it reduced a significantly higher number,

763
00:46:56.719 --> 00:46:59.679
and I'm looking at some of the potential ways to

764
00:46:59.719 --> 00:46:59.960
do that.

765
00:47:01.679 --> 00:47:02.760
Please speak to what.

766
00:47:03.000 --> 00:47:06.280
Kind of ideal process he would say, Please the games Williams.

767
00:47:06.320 --> 00:47:09.559
As far as him having rewarded that could bladedly corrected

768
00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:11.840
in the way by mister fancy, what would you like

769
00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:12.599
to be happening?

770
00:47:13.159 --> 00:47:15.000
You know, I can't speak to what he could or

771
00:47:15.039 --> 00:47:17.039
would have should have done. I really can't. I mean,

772
00:47:17.079 --> 00:47:17.920
he made decisions.

773
00:47:18.599 --> 00:47:20.599
You know that's going to play itself out in the

774
00:47:20.679 --> 00:47:22.119
prosecution of his case.

775
00:47:23.119 --> 00:47:26.039
I'm sure that you know he will. He will engage

776
00:47:26.079 --> 00:47:26.880
in that discussion.

777
00:47:27.000 --> 00:47:30.400
And I don't really know exactly, you know, when he

778
00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:33.920
thinks he when he says he was threatened, how long

779
00:47:34.119 --> 00:47:37.519
that went on, what choices he might have made every

780
00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:40.880
single day that he didn't make the choice to report it.

781
00:47:41.000 --> 00:47:44.039
I mean, I just don't have answers for those questions. Uh,

782
00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:48.360
that'll play out in his actual defense and his prosecution.

783
00:47:48.079 --> 00:47:50.159
When the audit supposed to begin.

784
00:47:49.960 --> 00:47:50.599
To know what it is.

785
00:47:51.199 --> 00:47:53.599
My understanding is that the governor was sending in an

786
00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:58.039
audit team to audit the facility and staffing issues and

787
00:47:58.159 --> 00:48:00.719
those kinds of questions and also to look at how

788
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:04.639
that that complies or those things. We're compliant with the

789
00:48:04.719 --> 00:48:08.559
basic jail guidelines US as as soon as this morning,

790
00:48:08.719 --> 00:48:11.599
so they may already be in that facility and having

791
00:48:11.679 --> 00:48:14.719
that conversation. That is certainly going to be relevant to

792
00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:18.559
my and you know investigation as well. But I think

793
00:48:18.639 --> 00:48:20.840
they are the right people to do this. He's bringing

794
00:48:20.880 --> 00:48:25.880
in facility UH, corrections professionals who understand what it takes

795
00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:28.480
to run a jail. You know, staffing issues are an

796
00:48:28.519 --> 00:48:31.920
issue for everybody. The State Department of Correction struggles with that.

797
00:48:32.519 --> 00:48:36.320
Local other sheriffs do struggle with that. But you know,

798
00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:38.159
part of the answer is you've got to bring the

799
00:48:38.239 --> 00:48:41.679
people down to meet your staffing levels and make sure

800
00:48:41.760 --> 00:48:45.440
that you are able to properly manage that facility. We

801
00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:47.800
need to look at what the level of threat those

802
00:48:47.920 --> 00:48:49.920
people have that are in that facility.

803
00:48:50.440 --> 00:48:52.400
Uh And and so I'll be looking at all of

804
00:48:52.480 --> 00:48:52.960
those things.

805
00:48:53.280 --> 00:48:53.440
You know.

806
00:48:53.559 --> 00:48:55.440
One of the issues that I've already looked at and

807
00:48:55.519 --> 00:48:58.440
that I'm continuing to look at. Conversation that needs to

808
00:48:58.480 --> 00:49:01.800
continue is with the court system. We have one judge

809
00:49:02.440 --> 00:49:05.320
who I know the Crime Commission issue to report on

810
00:49:05.400 --> 00:49:07.920
a couple of weeks ago had a docket that had

811
00:49:08.039 --> 00:49:13.519
over seven hundred cases dating back to twenty sixteen. My understanding,

812
00:49:13.679 --> 00:49:16.199
and I'm still trying to verify this number at the prison,

813
00:49:16.760 --> 00:49:20.199
is that over four hundred individuals on that docket may

814
00:49:20.280 --> 00:49:23.159
be in custody at the prison. That's almost a third

815
00:49:23.239 --> 00:49:25.639
to a fourth of the total census at the prison

816
00:49:26.480 --> 00:49:29.719
in that one judge's docket. So you know, I'm going

817
00:49:29.800 --> 00:49:33.360
to be appealing to the Supreme Court to help manage

818
00:49:33.400 --> 00:49:37.760
this issue as well. I think this requires everybody who

819
00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:41.320
has the ability to contribute to solving this problem to

820
00:49:41.519 --> 00:49:44.760
contribute what they can, and so I certainly will be

821
00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:48.360
looking at what all the contributing factors are. We will

822
00:49:48.440 --> 00:49:53.639
be focusing in my criminal investigation on what criminal involvement

823
00:49:53.719 --> 00:49:55.800
there is. But at the end of the day, what

824
00:49:55.960 --> 00:49:57.760
we really want to do is make sure that this

825
00:49:57.920 --> 00:50:01.519
can't happen again, and that means anybody who can contribute

826
00:50:01.559 --> 00:50:03.559
to solving that problem needs to be part of that.

827
00:50:03.760 --> 00:50:07.360
And speaking of that, ma'am, right now as we speak,

828
00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:10.079
there's a very dramatic.

829
00:50:11.239 --> 00:50:12.639
City council meeting that's going on.

830
00:50:13.480 --> 00:50:16.480
The city is you know, kind of at odds with

831
00:50:16.559 --> 00:50:21.000
each other over just a really egregious lack of of

832
00:50:21.159 --> 00:50:23.880
what the sheriff says of lack of funding over years

833
00:50:23.920 --> 00:50:27.159
and years and years that has led this brand new,

834
00:50:27.440 --> 00:50:27.599
you know.

835
00:50:27.679 --> 00:50:29.159
Ten year old jail to be decrepit.

836
00:50:29.800 --> 00:50:32.480
Do you feel like the state and city partnership here

837
00:50:32.719 --> 00:50:35.280
has on that space at this point with.

838
00:50:35.599 --> 00:50:37.239
How this was all managed over.

839
00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:39.199
The yere You know, look, I wouldn't agree with the

840
00:50:39.280 --> 00:50:43.039
description that this is a decrepit facility. It's not, and

841
00:50:43.400 --> 00:50:45.239
there are some issues with it, and there are some

842
00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:49.119
issues that I think the sheriff has raised. There is

843
00:50:49.199 --> 00:50:51.079
a lot of money that's used to fund this prison.

844
00:50:51.199 --> 00:50:53.039
I would like to take a look at the funding

845
00:50:53.119 --> 00:50:55.519
and compare it to other prisons that were running local

846
00:50:55.639 --> 00:50:57.159
jails that we're running around the state.

847
00:50:57.519 --> 00:50:59.920
Look at what their population is, how much it costs

848
00:51:00.039 --> 00:51:03.159
to run that jail. You know, you can compare their numbers.

849
00:51:03.239 --> 00:51:06.159
Now, it's not apples to apples when you've got a

850
00:51:06.360 --> 00:51:10.599
rural facility compared to an urban facility. You've got to

851
00:51:10.679 --> 00:51:13.079
look at who they are, what they're being held for,

852
00:51:13.400 --> 00:51:16.599
what the nature of the crimes are that they've been

853
00:51:16.639 --> 00:51:17.119
accused of.

854
00:51:17.320 --> 00:51:18.519
To understand their level of.

855
00:51:18.599 --> 00:51:24.800
Threat This facility was built, as I appreciate it, and

856
00:51:25.320 --> 00:51:27.519
with an understanding that it was going to have some

857
00:51:27.679 --> 00:51:30.360
high threat individuals in it. So I don't think that

858
00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:32.840
it's fair to say that this is simply a minimum

859
00:51:32.920 --> 00:51:35.559
security prison. It's got to have features in it that

860
00:51:35.639 --> 00:51:40.000
will handle people who need higher security measures. How they

861
00:51:40.079 --> 00:51:43.199
were doing that inside the prison, I can't answer that yet.

862
00:51:44.239 --> 00:51:47.039
I did watch parts of that council hearing.

863
00:51:47.960 --> 00:51:50.519
I think that, you know, I'm someone who believes that

864
00:51:50.719 --> 00:51:54.679
fiscal transparency is a given. Uh, this is taxpayer money.

865
00:51:55.360 --> 00:51:57.119
It is a lot of money, and I think that,

866
00:51:57.360 --> 00:51:59.800
you know, we ought to be able to see exactly

867
00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:03.039
how that money is being spent. And I promise you

868
00:52:03.199 --> 00:52:05.199
that with all of the attention that is now being

869
00:52:05.280 --> 00:52:08.119
given to this, everyone's going to be looking.

870
00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:09.719
At that, you know. I mean, it's it's not just

871
00:52:09.840 --> 00:52:11.000
going to be a city.

872
00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:15.599
Council sheriff discussion that happens month to month to month.

873
00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:18.119
I mean, everybody's looking at it, and the Governor's audit

874
00:52:18.159 --> 00:52:20.119
team is going to have I think a significant thing

875
00:52:20.199 --> 00:52:22.760
to say about the running of the facility, the staffing

876
00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:24.679
of the facility, and the funding of the facility.

877
00:52:27.079 --> 00:52:29.719
The sheriff is going to come to this esteem given

878
00:52:29.760 --> 00:52:32.400
the fact that we've had two New Orleans area of

879
00:52:32.519 --> 00:52:36.960
allmakers now calling with you or there are futs of resignation.

880
00:52:37.199 --> 00:52:39.760
What are some of your thoughts about whether it's your.

881
00:52:39.679 --> 00:52:43.079
Pretiay, I'm not gonna, you know, answer questions about that.

882
00:52:43.159 --> 00:52:45.760
I don't think it's appropriate for me to answer that question.

883
00:52:46.400 --> 00:52:49.280
I think that you know, I'm focused on my job

884
00:52:50.199 --> 00:52:53.480
right now, which is conducting an investigation inside the prison.

885
00:52:53.559 --> 00:52:55.679
And I will say that the sheriff has been cooperative

886
00:52:56.039 --> 00:52:59.159
from the beginning. I came in on Friday afternoon.

887
00:52:58.719 --> 00:52:59.400
With my people.

888
00:53:00.320 --> 00:53:02.360
I I have been very clear that I believe this

889
00:53:02.480 --> 00:53:07.199
investigation should be independent of the Sheriff's department. But you know,

890
00:53:07.320 --> 00:53:10.119
there are some people there that are being very very helpful.

891
00:53:10.599 --> 00:53:10.719
Uh.

892
00:53:10.920 --> 00:53:14.239
We need to understand what they do, why they do it,

893
00:53:14.559 --> 00:53:19.039
how they operate. I appreciate that cooperation and and so,

894
00:53:19.400 --> 00:53:22.519
you know, I want to continue to facilitate a productive

895
00:53:22.880 --> 00:53:27.880
relationship with the sheriff. I know that she is addressing

896
00:53:28.119 --> 00:53:30.920
you know, the issues as best she can right now,

897
00:53:31.519 --> 00:53:34.119
and and and what that means for her in the

898
00:53:34.199 --> 00:53:40.760
future is not is not my concern right now. Look, look,

899
00:53:40.840 --> 00:53:42.679
we're all the captain of our own ships. And I

900
00:53:42.760 --> 00:53:46.800
think she took responsibility at the at the hearing today

901
00:53:46.920 --> 00:53:51.599
and said, I take responsibility for what happened. That's appropriate

902
00:53:52.519 --> 00:53:53.239
if it was me.

903
00:53:53.559 --> 00:53:55.440
I think you have to do that. You are the

904
00:53:55.519 --> 00:53:59.800
captain of your own ship with the family.

905
00:54:01.119 --> 00:54:04.199
Inmates, the victims that your offens been in contract with, any.

906
00:54:04.079 --> 00:54:08.960
Of them, the the inmates who escaped, the victims of

907
00:54:09.400 --> 00:54:11.079
those inmates that are still on the run.

908
00:54:11.800 --> 00:54:11.840
No.

909
00:54:12.039 --> 00:54:15.599
I know that the Orleans Parish Police Department and the

910
00:54:15.679 --> 00:54:19.480
District Attorney's office has been engaging quite a bit with

911
00:54:19.679 --> 00:54:23.960
victims related to the crimes of which these people are accused.

912
00:54:24.679 --> 00:54:26.880
I do intend to have my office engage on that

913
00:54:26.960 --> 00:54:29.199
as well. I want to make sure that those families

914
00:54:29.880 --> 00:54:33.239
feel like they're being adequately taken care of, that there

915
00:54:33.280 --> 00:54:35.519
are resources that are being provided to them.

916
00:54:35.840 --> 00:54:37.920
I will also have some outreach to some of the

917
00:54:38.039 --> 00:54:38.840
public officials.

918
00:54:38.880 --> 00:54:41.199
I'm going to meet with District Attorney Jason Williams this

919
00:54:41.320 --> 00:54:45.079
afternoon after this and we're going to have a discussion

920
00:54:45.119 --> 00:54:47.320
about some things that I think are within his and

921
00:54:47.440 --> 00:54:50.400
my control in terms of case management and things like

922
00:54:50.480 --> 00:54:53.760
that on some of these cases. So you know, I

923
00:54:53.840 --> 00:54:56.320
think everybody needs to make we need to be making

924
00:54:56.400 --> 00:55:00.519
sure that everybody who feels threatened by this directly because

925
00:55:00.519 --> 00:55:03.880
they have some direct involvement with the escapees, is that

926
00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:05.400
their concerns are being addressed.

927
00:55:08.159 --> 00:55:10.920
I know that, I know that the four immediate sense

928
00:55:11.000 --> 00:55:14.000
that captured are at stated the ability talently. Three of

929
00:55:14.000 --> 00:55:16.079
them are Angual itself. Are you part of that that

930
00:55:16.119 --> 00:55:18.679
there isn't an overall because that's the most secure place

931
00:55:18.719 --> 00:55:19.239
that they view.

932
00:55:19.679 --> 00:55:21.480
I do think it's the most secure place that they

933
00:55:21.559 --> 00:55:24.719
can be. I think it's the appropriate place for them

934
00:55:24.800 --> 00:55:25.000
to be.

935
00:55:25.639 --> 00:55:25.760
Uh.

936
00:55:25.960 --> 00:55:28.239
I didn't make the decision about where they would be,

937
00:55:28.480 --> 00:55:31.039
but I certainly had an opinion that they shouldn't be

938
00:55:31.119 --> 00:55:34.440
back in Orleans Parish prison, and that given their propensity

939
00:55:34.559 --> 00:55:36.480
to escape, that they should be held in the most

940
00:55:37.039 --> 00:55:39.639
uh secure place possible and that's Angola.

941
00:55:40.199 --> 00:55:48.360
Katie, Okay, Given you talked about how witnesses are concerned,

942
00:55:49.000 --> 00:55:52.360
families of victims are concerned.

943
00:55:52.480 --> 00:55:56.360
Some families have described themselves as going into hiding. Are

944
00:55:56.440 --> 00:55:59.079
you fearful for your safety as a result of these

945
00:55:59.159 --> 00:55:59.800
people being there?

946
00:56:00.960 --> 00:56:02.599
I'm not fearful for my safety.

947
00:56:02.800 --> 00:56:05.559
I am concerned about the safety of all of these

948
00:56:05.599 --> 00:56:09.800
individuals who have a direct relationship with these individuals cases.

949
00:56:10.519 --> 00:56:11.320
I think that is a.

950
00:56:11.440 --> 00:56:14.440
Fair concern of theirs. I think all of the you know,

951
00:56:14.559 --> 00:56:17.800
the ada's and the District Attorney's office is also there

952
00:56:17.840 --> 00:56:19.760
are a court there. You know, there might be court

953
00:56:19.800 --> 00:56:22.320
officials and judges who also are on edge.

954
00:56:23.360 --> 00:56:26.840
That is obviously a fair concern for them, and so,

955
00:56:27.119 --> 00:56:28.880
you know, I do want to make sure that all of.

956
00:56:28.880 --> 00:56:31.719
Those people feel like they have the resources that they

957
00:56:31.840 --> 00:56:34.599
need and that they are protected. As long as these

958
00:56:34.639 --> 00:56:38.679
individuals are out, they will be pretty edgy and legitimately,

959
00:56:38.800 --> 00:56:41.000
so so you know, I'm going to do everything that

960
00:56:41.159 --> 00:56:42.840
I can to address those concerns.

961
00:56:43.159 --> 00:56:45.039
I know the Governor's committed to that as well.

962
00:56:46.079 --> 00:56:49.440
I haven't seen anybody quite frankly who isn't, so you know,

963
00:56:49.639 --> 00:56:53.679
but I also am continuing to encourage all the public officials,

964
00:56:53.840 --> 00:56:57.639
the city council, the court system, the federal court system,

965
00:56:58.159 --> 00:57:01.000
the sheriff, the district attorney. You know, we all need

966
00:57:01.079 --> 00:57:03.239
to be able to pull together to figure out what

967
00:57:03.599 --> 00:57:06.760
role we can play to address this problem and have

968
00:57:07.199 --> 00:57:09.840
a short term plan, an intermediate term plan, and a

969
00:57:09.920 --> 00:57:13.079
long term plan to deal with this facility it's not

970
00:57:13.199 --> 00:57:15.039
the first time that we've had issues.

971
00:57:15.119 --> 00:57:17.199
We all know that there are some known issues.

972
00:57:16.960 --> 00:57:20.880
With this particular facility, so you know, it's got everybody's attention.

973
00:57:21.000 --> 00:57:23.400
We need to address the problem. And finally, one thing

974
00:57:23.559 --> 00:57:25.400
I really want to ask them.

975
00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:28.639
The sheriff said today in the city council meeting that

976
00:57:29.400 --> 00:57:33.119
they're admitting that there were no proper patrols that were

977
00:57:33.159 --> 00:57:35.719
made that night to go and check on folks inside

978
00:57:35.760 --> 00:57:36.159
the prison.

979
00:57:36.920 --> 00:57:38.920
Given that information other information.

980
00:57:38.599 --> 00:57:41.800
You've been gathering in your investigation, you talked about there's

981
00:57:41.840 --> 00:57:44.159
the potential for more charges to be forthcoming.

982
00:57:44.679 --> 00:57:45.400
Can you explain.

983
00:57:45.519 --> 00:57:48.440
Can you elaborate what other charges might come, who else

984
00:57:48.519 --> 00:57:49.159
might be charged?

985
00:57:49.519 --> 00:57:52.000
I can't speak to that. It's a continuing investigation.

986
00:57:53.000 --> 00:57:57.280
We will pursue every avenue and we will determine whether

987
00:57:58.159 --> 00:58:02.239
the conduct is chargeable as a criminal charge or it's

988
00:58:02.519 --> 00:58:05.800
you know, something that falls below the level of criminal

989
00:58:06.440 --> 00:58:11.360
malfeasance or direct involvement with the escape. So that is

990
00:58:11.519 --> 00:58:14.719
part of why I will eventually issue a comprehensive report

991
00:58:15.159 --> 00:58:18.199
and I will bring you know everything basically that I've

992
00:58:18.239 --> 00:58:20.719
been able to collect and can address the problems that

993
00:58:20.800 --> 00:58:25.360
I've identified. If we find individuals whose conduct rises to

994
00:58:25.440 --> 00:58:28.559
the level of what I would consider to be chargeable malfeasance,

995
00:58:28.599 --> 00:58:29.480
then we will charge that.

996
00:58:29.719 --> 00:58:34.960
So of course, with these escapes, everybody blames everybody as

997
00:58:35.000 --> 00:58:40.039
far as politicians are concerned, and no exception will be

998
00:58:40.159 --> 00:58:43.880
the council in the Orleans pair sheriff and they're sparring

999
00:58:44.119 --> 00:58:48.639
over the escape and how the budget affects that, and

1000
00:58:48.760 --> 00:58:51.719
I got to agree with that to some extent. You

1001
00:58:51.800 --> 00:58:54.039
can only do what you can do with so much money.

1002
00:58:54.840 --> 00:58:57.599
But that being said, I don't know what their budget is,

1003
00:58:57.800 --> 00:59:00.559
but it's not like they're getting pennies. But even though

1004
00:59:00.880 --> 00:59:05.840
the sheriff said, I take this on me, it was

1005
00:59:05.920 --> 00:59:09.639
on my watch, it's my responsibility. All that's true, and

1006
00:59:10.000 --> 00:59:14.199
credit to her for taking ownership of that. But you know,

1007
00:59:14.360 --> 00:59:17.480
then she follows that up with the reason that it

1008
00:59:17.639 --> 00:59:22.159
happened was funding shortfalls, and that is not the reason

1009
00:59:22.639 --> 00:59:26.280
this happened. The reason this happened is because there was

1010
00:59:26.360 --> 00:59:29.519
help on the inside. You hired someone that you shouldn't

1011
00:59:29.519 --> 00:59:32.039
have hired, and in addition to that, you have a

1012
00:59:32.119 --> 00:59:35.679
lot of lasadaisical people somewhere along the way that weren't

1013
00:59:35.679 --> 00:59:40.119
paying fucking attention let's be honest, now, what's the biggest

1014
00:59:40.239 --> 00:59:43.280
risk here. As you've heard in some of the clips

1015
00:59:43.360 --> 00:59:46.840
that I played you, it's the victims out there. It's

1016
00:59:46.960 --> 00:59:50.719
the witnesses that are out there, especially because some of

1017
00:59:50.800 --> 00:59:54.920
these guys, they're going to go hunting for some of

1018
00:59:55.000 --> 00:59:58.960
those people that maybe they got to worry about testifying

1019
00:59:59.079 --> 01:00:02.079
against them. Not all these guys have convictions, and they're

1020
01:00:02.119 --> 01:00:06.000
going to attempt to eliminate them in all likelihood in

1021
01:00:06.119 --> 01:00:07.920
the hopes that they're going to get out of trouble.

1022
01:00:08.280 --> 01:00:12.440
As it relates to major murder chargers, it's hard to

1023
01:00:12.480 --> 01:00:16.199
be convicted of murder if there's no witnesses. I mean,

1024
01:00:16.280 --> 01:00:20.000
this is really no joke. And as of this recording,

1025
01:00:20.559 --> 01:00:23.440
five of these guys are still on the loose. Now

1026
01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:27.440
one has been captured just prior to this recording, So

1027
01:00:28.360 --> 01:00:33.960
still on the loose Leo Tate, Jermaine Donald, Derek Grows,

1028
01:00:34.760 --> 01:00:39.559
Lenton Van Buren, and Antoine Massey. And it makes you

1029
01:00:39.800 --> 01:00:44.719
wonder how they still remain on the run. How are

1030
01:00:44.760 --> 01:00:48.639
they free this long? And obviously they have help, there's

1031
01:00:48.760 --> 01:00:52.280
no doubt about it. At this point these guys likely

1032
01:00:52.840 --> 01:00:57.599
are long gone. Maybe not, but if I'm escaping from

1033
01:00:57.840 --> 01:01:00.840
Orleans Parish prison. I want you to take me to Mexico,

1034
01:01:01.039 --> 01:01:02.840
where I want you to definitely want to get out

1035
01:01:02.840 --> 01:01:07.039
of state of Louisiana. Hopefully they'll be captured soon, and

1036
01:01:07.199 --> 01:01:09.840
of course I'm going to keep you updated in the

1037
01:01:09.920 --> 01:01:14.079
event that they are. Thank you so much for listening.

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01:01:14.239 --> 01:01:17.239
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1039
01:01:17.360 --> 01:01:21.760
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1040
01:01:22.000 --> 01:01:25.760
next time, I'm Jim Chapman for Bloody and Gola Podcast,

1041
01:01:26.199 --> 01:01:29.760
a podcast on forty two years in the making, the

1042
01:01:29.880 --> 01:01:32.599
complete story of America's bloodiest present.

1043
01:01:33.559 --> 01:02:02.000
Peace a wall, Street line, shackle chain, it's calling my name.

1044
01:02:03.800 --> 01:02:10.920
There is no mercy and this being a tentery juice

1045
01:02:11.119 --> 01:02:17.880
as the huge string game Rangle three, I'm.

1046
01:02:17.840 --> 01:02:22.440
Here forf I'm here to die.

1047
01:02:24.159 --> 01:02:29.239
Inside these walls, inside the wild.

1048
01:02:30.920 --> 01:02:32.199
And when the war.

1049
01:02:33.920 --> 01:02:35.840
As I know, it's old

1050
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Body, angle, obody, angle, and do