April 24, 2025

The Dog Lady of Lansing Prison: Toby Young Dorr

Show Notes
Transcript

Jim Chapman explores Toby Young Dorr and the infamous 2006 prison breakout of John Maynard. Jim details the escape, Toby’s troubled past, cancer struggles, and the Safe Harbor Prison Dogs program she started just a few years prior to the escape.

Chapters
05:31 The Dog Lady of Lansing Prison
10:09 Toby's Life Before the Escape
14:57 Meeting John Maynard
19:41 The Plan for Escape
24:43 The Escape Unfolds
29:16 The Chase and Capture
30:36 Aftermath of the Escape
32:22 Life After Prison

Sources
https://thisiscriminal.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/Episode-258-Off-Leash.pdf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmW0VnNs93M https://www.kshb.com/news/crime/john-manard-notorious-kansas-prison-escapee-died-sunday-in-arizona-prison
https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-culture/5-facts-toby-dorr-x-john-maynard-prison-escape

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H a Wall Street line, shackle change, Oh weesome, Girdie,

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it's calling my name. There is no mercy and it's

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been a tentery juice as the huge stream game Wrangle three.

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Come here by.

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Me to die inside these walls, inside the wild hadn't

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went no girl as I.

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Hey everyone, and welcome back to Bloody and Gola, a

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podcast of one and forty two years in the making,

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the complete story of America's bloodiest present. I'm Jim Chapman

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and Luck. Before we get into today's episode, just a

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couple of announcements. First, one that is really somber in nature.

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Woody Everton, who I started this podcast with and is

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still to this day a partner in this podcast, is father.

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As of this recording, looks like he is going to

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be passing away. I'm just gonna read this Facebook post

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quickly that what he made says my dad, woodrow Leo

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Overton Senior, my mentor, my best friend. Thank you for

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everything you have done for me, including making me the

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man I am today. I will miss you every day.

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Go us with Jesus now you certainly have earned it.

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I know you will continue to be with me until

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we meet again. In Heaven. Huge prayers for my mom,

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who is the strongest and most loving wife anyone could

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wish for fifty eight years of marriage, seven children, nineteen

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grandchildren and two great grandchildren. Dad, you and Mom have

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definitely left your mark in the world. Y'all. My dad

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is home in his bedroom, surrounded by love. Last rites

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have been given and now we wait for the angels

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to bring him home. Thank you for everyone who has

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helped us get to the point, and thank you Hospice

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for helping us keep him home. And of course, many

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prayers to Woody Everton as he and his family go

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through this very difficult time. And I'll tell you a

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quick little story about mister Lee Overton. Funny to me

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that I remember, you know, bits and pieces of your childhood.

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And one of the things I do remember is Lee

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Overton's commercials that were run on TV back when I

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was nine ten years old somewhere around there. He just dominated.

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He was an attorney in Baton Rouge, very successful attorney

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for many, many, many years in addition to other things

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that he did, and he ran more commercials than any

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other attorney in town by far. And many years later.

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Who knew I would cross path with Woody Everton, and

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he mentioned his dad was an attorney and I said, wait,

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is your dad Lee Overton And he said yeah, and

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I said, I don't know him, but I know his

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commercials well. I did have the pleasure of meeting mister

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Overton only one time, and that was at a Marti

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Gras event in which Woody was He was like the

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Master of Ceremonies or whatever you call him, the King

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of the Monti Graus Parade or something like that. And

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we were on Woody's float and his dad was there,

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and look, even at his age then he was still

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quite the charmer. So many many prayers to all who

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knew in all who loved Lee Overton. And I have

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one more announcement today, and that is the Livingston Pair

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Sheriff's Office, which both Woody and I have talked about

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many times on Bloody Angla. They have kicked off their

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own podcast. It's called Behind the Scenes with Sheriff Jason Ard.

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My company Vision is consulting on that project. And I'll

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tell you what, it's pretty damn good. So if you're

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interested in seeing behind the scenes what these sheriff's office

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do to catch bad guys, this will be a great

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one for you if you're a true crime fanatic, great

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podcast for you to check out. You can just search

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on YouTube. Behind the scenes we shareff Jason Orden. It'll

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pull it up, go check it out. We just dropped

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the second episode of that podcast, and let's get into

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today's episode. And I'm gonna call this episode the Dog

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Lady of Lancing Prison. And in two thousand and six,

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Toby Door formerly Toby Young when this was going down,

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she made headlines after she helped convicted murderer John Maynard

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escape from Lancing Correctional Facility in Kansas, and she did

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this by sneaking him out in a dog crate. Now,

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Door had been helping inmates train dogs to prepare the

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dogs for adoption. This was part of a program she

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founded called Safe Harbor Prison Dogs. So let's get into it,

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and I'm a start off by telling you a little

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bit about Toby. She came from a large family of

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seven kids, and she was the oldest sibling. And when

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you're the oldest sibling of a large family, you are

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typically the one who is the most mature. You get

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the honor of helping mom and dad with all those

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kids that were born behind you, right, and Toby was

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no exception. She was the straight arrow in her family,

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the rule follower, and even in high school when her

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parents didn't require her necessarily to be home at a

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certain time, she really didn't have like what you would

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call a curfew. She come home early anyway. She was

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just a model child and a model young adult. So

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she graduates from Bishop Ward High School in Kansas City, Kansas,

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and from there she attended college. She gets her bachelor's

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degree in business administration. And she was very smart, graduating

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near the top of her class. Now, when she graduated college,

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Toby was already married. She had tied the knot at

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just twenty years old to her high school sweetheart, and

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he was a firefighter in Kansas and actually the only

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guy she had ever dated. And she was a spunky lady,

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very short, five feet tall, one hundred and thirty pounds,

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just an everyday lady. And as the years went on,

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on the outside everything seemed fine, but her life in

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her marriage was not without the challenges. Toby and her

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husband they had a daughter who sadly died at birth.

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Following that, they did have two sons who grew up

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happy and healthy. And it was in two two thousand

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and four that Toby gets diagnosed with thyroid cancer, so

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she had to have her thyroid removed, and later on

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she would say, this is the moment she realized that

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there had to be more out there for her. She

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was married, but she wasn't in love and she described

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her marriage as very quote hollow. Now, at the time

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of her diagnosis, she had been married twenty six years.

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So during her recovery from thyroid cancer, she saw a

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TV show and that TV show focused on dog training

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inside of prisons, and at this time in her life,

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she was working at a vet clinic and she had

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a huge affinity for dogs in particular and dog rescues,

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so she decided she wanted to start a dog rescue

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program where she would train the dogs and then she

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would offer those dogs up for a She named the

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new business quote Safe Harbor. And it was just shortly

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later that a warden for Lancing Correctional Facility in Kansas

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City contacted her about the program. I'm talking within days

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of her getting it started, and he asked her if

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she would like to use inmates at his facility to

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train those dogs. Lancing had been considering a similar program

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like that, so the inmates that would eventually be released

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from the facility would have something they could use upon

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release as it relates to training. And they also felt

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like it would help these guys on the inside not

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buck up so much, if you will. And this sounded

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like a great idea to Toby obviously, so she made

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an appointment to pitch the board at that prison on

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her new business and they absolutely loved the idea, and

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the next thing you know, Safe Harbor has a prison contract. Now,

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this was in January of two thousand and five. Now,

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this was an extremely successful program. In the eighteen months

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that Toby was involved in the program before what would

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happen happened. Toby rescued over one thousand dogs by having

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them trained by convicts, and at that point those dogs

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would get adopted by families. They figured out the formula

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was if the dogs were already trained, it was easier

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to get people to adopt these dogs. And in addition

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to all of that, people wanted to support something like

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prisoner reform.

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Now.

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Eventually it became the largest dog program in the country,

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over one hundred convict dog handlers and eighty to one

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hundred dogs were being trained at any given time. The

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dogs were even allowed to stay with the handlers in

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their cells during training, which made the program I am

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very sought after among the convicts. Sadly, about a year

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into the program, Toby's dad was diagnosed with bladder cancer,

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which took over quickly and he sadly passes away. And

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it was around that time that a convict by the

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name of John Maynor. He noticed that something was off

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with Toby and he showed some concern, which, due to

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everything that was falling apart at this time for Toby,

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her dad dying, her marriage was just routine at best,

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it didn't take a crystal ball to see that attention

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would possibly be something that could create an issue. Now

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this time, Toby was forty eight years old and John

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was twenty eight. So let's talk quickly about John Maynard. Now.

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Growing up, you could say John Maynord was the total

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opposite of Toby. While Toby was a straight arrow, John,

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by the age of thirteen, was already causing trouble. He

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had been arrested for trespassing, burglary, vandalism, and at sixteen

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he was charged with aggravated assault, allegedly pulling a saught

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off shotgun on a group of people. This was in

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nineteen eighty five, and because of his lengthy record, Maynard

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was automatically waved to adult court, where he faced three

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counts of aggravated assault in one count of illegally possessing

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a firearm. These are all felonies. However, the aggravated assault

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charge was eventually dismissed when a witness did not show

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up in court, but Maynard was still found guilty of

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illegally possessing assault off shotgun. So he does do some

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jail time. Now he gets released from jails following a

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short stant for possessing that shotgun, and that's where his

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life would take a dramatic turn. On June thirteenth of

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nineteen ninety six, a guy by the name of Donald

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England was shot at six point thirty five PM while

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sitting in his park car outside a haircut shop in Kansas.

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He was waiting for his ex wife to get her haircut.

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Witnesses said that England was sitting in the passenger seat

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two young white males. They walk up and they actually

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get in the car. England then gets shot with a

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stolen small caliber semi automatic handgun. He gets out of

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the car, and witnesses said he may have tried to

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kick one of the assailants before he got shot in

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the chest. After the shooting, the assailants sped away in

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the car of the guy they just shot, and witnesses

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who saw this they actually started pursuing the vehicle, but

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they backed off after at least one shot was fired

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at them. The abandoned car was found a few hours

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later behind a school, and about a week later a

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comes in and the tipster actually named two individuals who

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had been seen in the vicinity of the homicide. Within hours,

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the police pull over a truck with Tennessee plates and

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four white males get out. One of them takes off

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running as soon as he gets out of the vehicle,

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and that man was John Maynard. The other occupants they

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get hauled into jail. They write out Maynard and eventually

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he gets caught and when it was all sudden done,

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Maynard was charged and convicted of first gree murder and

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he gets sentenced to life in prison, no parole. That's

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in April of nineteen ninety nine, and Maynard looked the

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part of a convict. He was five foot nine one

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hundred and ninety pounds, very muscular, and had the word

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hooligan in three inch letters tattooed across his stomach. So

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in October of tw two thousand and five, Toby meets

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John Maynard and he actually becomes somewhat of her convict bodyguard.

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And Toby explained this in an interview, saying, quote, there

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came a time when I was inside the prison when

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I heard some I mean I would just walk around

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the prison by myself, not accompanied by an officer at all,

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and I heard some inmates make sexual comments under their

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breath as I walk by, their kind of cat calling her, right.

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It made me a little bit nervous. I looked around

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and I realized, this is a huge prison. There's a million,

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maybe not a million, but it seemed like a million

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inmates in there, and I was vulnerable. So I shared

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this with the warden's office, that I wasn't comfortable just

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walking around inside the prison without an officer or some protection.

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So they told me to always be sure I was

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accompanied by one of my dog handlers, because the dog

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handlers wouldn't let anyone say anything to me or cost

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me in any way. So just don't walk through the

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prison alone. Just make sure when you come to the

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gate you meet up with one of your dog handlers

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and ask someone to walk with you the whole time,

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the warden's office told her, and she goes on to

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say I did that for about a year and it

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worked fine until one day I was walking with two

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of my dog handlers and I came upon another dog

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handler who wanted his girlfriend to adopt his dog. And

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I ran into this inmate, and it had been about

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eight weeks since he asked me if he could adopt

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his dog, and I said to him, hey, when is

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your girlfriend gonna pick up your dog? Because I've got

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a lot of dogs lined up waiting to come in

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here and I need that space. And he got mad

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at me and started screaming at me, and he put

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his fist up and he was in my face and

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he was yelling at me and cussing at me and saying,

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you know, you let everyone else wait for their dogs.

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I don't know why you're being this way with me.

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And so I looked over at my two dog handlers

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for help, and they were just looking at their feet

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because they didn't want to confront this guy. And I

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just knew I was gonna get hit, and this guy

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outweighed me by one hundred and fifty pounds. I didn't

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know what to do. And so then I looked past

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this guy who was confronting me, and I saw John

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Maynard kind of swaggering his way in the yard, and

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he walked up and I just heaved a sigh of

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relief because I knew now was safe, because nobody was

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gonna mess with John Maynard. And Maynard said to him,

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go on back to yourself, Toby, let me walk you

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to the gate. When I got outside the prison, I

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just fell apart and I called my contact at the

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Warden's office and said, I'm never going back in that

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prison again. There's no way I will do this. This

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isn't safe. And I'll run Boom, I'll run the prison

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dog program, but I'm not going in the prison. I'll

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run it from the outside. She goes on to say,

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on Monday morning, this part Erson, my contact in the

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Warden's office called me back and said, now, when you

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come up to the prison, you just Paige Maynard. So

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when I got to the prison, I call and I'd

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say Paige Maynard to the gate, and he'd come to

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the gate and meet me, and he'd walk me to

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every dog I needed to visit and just stay there

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through my training sessions. That was too much time to

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be spending together with John Maynard. And I can see

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how that would create quite the problem, and I'm sure

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you can too. Now, this is not a woman who

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did not know better as it relates to manipulation. Toby

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was actually required to take classes at the prison specifically

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tailored toward convict manipulation. Now, in addition to being a

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bodyguard to Toby, John was also one hell of a

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dog trainer. He had trained over twenty five dogs personally

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by this point in time, and Maynard was well respected

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even by the correctional officers, who would describe him as

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someone who was very charismatic. So John is around Toby

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all the time. They talked constantly, and John at some

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point starts flirting and Toby at some point starts flirting back,

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and this goes on for several weeks. And it's at

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this point of time that, according to Toby, she falls

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in love with John Maynard and vice versa. And it's

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during this love affair that the two decide that in

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order to be together John Maynard needs to escape prison,

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which is convenient for him, right, So they hatch a

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plan and in an interview, Toby was asked about the

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night prior to that escape, and she said this quote, Well,

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the night before the escape was so tense. There was

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so much riding on every single thing falling into place

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the next morning, and I did a prison Dog news

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letter every week for the Prison Dog program. I emailed

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it out and it went to thousands of people all

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across the country, and I felt so compelled to finish

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that task. The escape was on a Sunday, and Sunday

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is the day I sent out the newsletter. So I

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stayed up late on Saturday night writing the newsletter for

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that week, and I sent the newsletter out. So I

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didn't finish that job until after midnight that night, and

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my husband went to bed. He said to me, well,

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I'm going to bed. And he walked up the stairs

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to go to bed, and I looked at him and

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said goodbye, and I thought, oh, crap, I said goodbye.

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He's gonna pick up on that. He's gonna ask me.

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Why would I say goodbye, He's just going to bed.

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I should have said goodnight, but I said goodbye, but

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he never said anything. He just went up and went

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to bed, and then I thought, Okay, I'm doing the

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right thing. Then I can't even believe he did not

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notice that slip of the tongue. She goes on to say,

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that's all I said was goodbye. Then I got up

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the next morning and it was snowing and the van

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was sliding in the snow. And on any other normal day,

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I would have canceled the adoption event because it wasn't

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worth getting out in that weather. But I couldn't cancel

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this adoption, so I got there early because I was

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nervous and I didn't know what else to do. So

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I got there and my dog handlers were all lined

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up behind the fence with their dogs, and it was

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a cold day. The winm was blowing. Nobody wanted to

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be outside, and they were all standing behind the fence

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with their dogs, and they were just kind of stomping

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their feet and looking at the gate and waving at me, like,

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hurry up, open the gate and get these dogs and

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let us go back to our rooms and be warm.

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But I couldn't open the gate until I saw the

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farm wagon there because if I lighted all the dogs,

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and then we just brought the farm wagon. It would

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be under more scrutiny because it would be the only

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thing happening, and we needed to have the chaos of

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all the dogs getting loaded in the crates and jumping

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around and barking, and then this crate gets loaded in

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at the same time. And I'm gonna get to what

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crate that is. And while I'm waiting there, I'm thinking,

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where's that farm wagon? Why isn't it here? Why is

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he late? He knows how important his timing is. I

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had just about decided I was just going to open

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the gate, load the dogs, and I was gonna leave

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and go to this dog adoption. And he was on

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his own. Whatever was gonna happen, he was gonna have

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to deal with it, because I couldn't wait anymore. Just

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as I thought that, I looked up and that farm

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wagon came around the corner. And when I saw it,

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I gasp out loud because the weight on it was

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so heavy. The tires were nearly flat, and I thought,

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how does no one notice that? I mean, a couple

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of dog dishes and some leashes aren't gonna make enough

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weight to make those tires flat like that, but nobody nutted,

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nobody said anything. So I opened the gate, told the

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inmates to start putting their dogs in the crates, and

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I went around and opened the side door of the van,

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and two or three guys had pulled the wagon down

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and they picked up the crate, slid it in, shut

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the side door. I walked around to the back of

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the van to make sure all the dogs were in

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the crates and the crate doors were shut, closed the

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back doors to the van, and I took the adoption

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papers from the handlers, got in the truck and left.

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So to tell you what happened, on February twelfth of

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two thousand and six, Toby showed up the prison in

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a usual white cargo van. She was going to pick

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up these dogs that were trained to bring them to

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go get adopted right and as luck would have it,

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there was a metal dog crate that the prison wanted

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to get rid of. And she had this conversation with

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the staff a few days before this incident, which is

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how her and Toby planned it. To get rid of

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the metal crate because you could take it apart and

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use the metal as shanks. The problem was it was

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very heavy, and so Toby said, well, why don't I

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get John to carry the crate to my vehicle, And

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that gave John a reason to be there when she

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left the prison, and guess what, he just got inside

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the crate, and that's how they made their escape. They

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drove right out of the front of the prison, and

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it's not too long before the prison figures out John

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had escaped, or how he escaped, or who he escaped with,

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and they start digging into Toby Young's life and they

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discover that she had gathered up at least ten thousand

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dollars in cash. And keep in mind, she's still married

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at this point, so no doubt her husband helped them

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discover that. They also discovered that Toby had taken two

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guns from her home, she had bought a vehicle, and

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she had rented a storage space in the area, all

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without her family's knowledge. She even bought hair dye and

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an electric razor prior to the escape, and obviously that

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is to alter appearances, right, And they're on the run,

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Bulletins go out everything you would expect, and they make

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