People Hunter: The Manhunt for Ryan Sharpe Part 2

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1:31 Hey everyone, and welcome back to Bloody Angola, a podcast one forty two years in the making. The complete story of America's Bloody is present. I'm Jim Chapman, and today I am continuing with part two of People Hunter and the last time that I left you, Ryan Sharp had been arrested. In the subsequent questioning, he had admitted to the murder of three men and the attempted murder of another in an elaborate claim of collecting people tags people hunting tags, if you will, so I'm going to pick up there. And after confessing to all of this, of course, it's straight to jail for thirty six year old Ryan Sharp.

2:18 And this is in the late fall. It's actually late October of twenty seventeen, and a lot came out regarding Ryan Sharp, publicly the fact that he owned a fairly successful plumbing company, and the fact that his father was retired law enforcement dominated local media as of this time. Now, the investigation was swift. Police were able to find tons of physical evidence, including matching casings found at the scene to rifles that Sharp owned, so that his confession and all the other things they had, there's just no doubt this guy committed these. So from there the charges were first degree murder of Brad Di Franceski, second degree murder of Tommy Bass, second degree murder of Carol Breeden, and the attempted first degree murder of Buck Hornsby. Now, an interesting thing happens on December fourteenth of twenty seventeen. A woman that was living with Sharp when he was arrested, well, she was arrested after stealing fourteen thousand, five hundred dollars from Sharp's safe at his home. Sheriff Jeff Travis came out in the media and said Robin Lender, who was fifty four, broke into the safe and she stole money, But he emphasized she was not involved in any of

3:49 the shootings whatsoever. So from there the legal gymnastics continued and they got ridiculous. There was delay after delay, and in April of twenty eighteen, East Feliciana Parish District Attorney Sam Daquilla. He opted not to seek the death penalty, and he gave some reasons for this. Primarily, he cited the time involved in prosecuting such a case. D Quilla knew the defense they're gonna pull the mentally unfit for trial defense. There was no doubt about that. And if it's a death penalty case, that can stretch it out for more than a decade. To be honest, maybe even more than that. He was trying to get this guy in jail at least for the rest of his life. Look, I'm not saying I agree with it. I don't know what the family's thoughts were on this. Personally, to me, if anybody deserves the death penalty, it's people that commit crimes like this on any human beings. But they had their reasons and that's what they were going with life in prison. He let the defense know that as well.

5:09 So time moves on. In nearly two years after the killing, jury selection finally starts in East Feliciana Parish and the trial started in the winter of twenty nineteen. Now, this trial took about a week to complete and when Daquilla opened the trial, he argued that Sharp took plenty of steps to not get caught, such as destroying or throwing away ballistic evidence like bullets, and you heard that in his confession. He even mentioned that he took one of the shotgun shells that had flew in the back of his truck and he had burned it or threw it in a fire to get rid of the evidence, and then disposed of the brass. He also mentioned during his confession that he intentionally left his cell f und at home so he could not be tracked or didn't have to worry about being tracked, and he said he would even pull his battery out of his celf, and at times he mentioned that he would circle the homes before shooting the victims to make sure that no witnesses would be present. All of those things show what premeditation of some sort that's important. Why is it important, Well, it proves he's sane, because an insane person by definition, does not know what they are doing is wrong, same as someone who claims temporary insanity, which was incidentally exactly Ryan

6:41 Sharp's plea not guilty by reason of temporary insanity. The defense also made claims that in the moss leading up to the shootings, he became detached from friends and family, and that he started neglecting his plumbing business. They used examples of how Sharp became very paranoid and said he had no memory of the shootings. So the entire task of the jury in this case was not to determine so much whether Sharp committed these shootings. That was clear, he confessed to it. The only real determination they had to make was whether he knew that what he was doing was wrong when he committed those shootings. And I want to mention the support quickly that all the families had for each other in this case, because it's worth pointing out now, although this was a trial that was only for the killing of Bradde Franceskey, every family affected by the actions were there throughout the trial. All the physical evidence was shown, including the interrogation video I played you last week, which I just cannot imagine how hard that was for the families to hear, I mean, the graphic detail tales of that in court. As far as the defense, only five witnesses were called, all essentially speaking to Sharp's mental state. These witnesses included his father, and

8:12 some friends and a couple of expert witnesses. And when it was all over a week later, the jury voted eleven to one to convict Ryan Sharp a first degree murder and that would become a major issue later on. Why just a few months later after that verdict, the Supreme Court actually changed the law as it relates to criminal convictions, requiring a unanimous jury verdict. Remember this case was eleven to one. Now, the initial vought was due to the fact that the crimes in the trial took place before the law was changed. It certainly wouldn't apply here. However, a district judge did not see it that way and through the verdict doubt, which meant, believe it or not, a whole new trial would have to take place. There were higher stakes this time, because the Da sam Duquila would again seek a first degree murder conviction. The jury would have to be unanimous, no easy task when you're going up against an insanity defense. Especially the families. They were shocked and understandably disgusted, especially the d Franceski family.

9:35 They would have to go through all of this again. They would have to relive this nightmare again, and the trial would not come around the second time for four and a half years after the first dude to several motions regarding Sharp's mental capacity, et cetera. But the second trial of Ryan Sharp did finally happen. This was in in August of twenty twenty four. Now, this is some seven and a half years after he killed Brad di Franceske, and after just one hour of deliberations, a twelve person panel did indeed find Ryan Sharp guilty of murder in the first degree of Brad d. Franchske. So I say this often, and it's no exception in this case, that there are always victims on both sides. After the guilty verdict, the mother of Ryan Sharp, she spoke to reporter Kier and Chaula, and she said, quote, I pray that today's verdict will bring the de Francheske family closure in this horrific event. Through our grief. Today, I would like to offer our prayers to the victims and families that have always been there. We offer them peace unquote. Now, this was the first time that Sharp's family had ever spoken out in public. And look, no matter how evil someone is,

11:06 there's always a mother, a father, a sister, a brother, someone somewhere that loves that person, and I thought they handled the situation with as much grace as they could considering the circumstances. Now. During this second trial, incidentally, the state called fourteen witnesses, the defense only called three. Sharp's father is sister and one of Sharp's closest childhood friends. And in October of twenty twenty four, Ryan Sharp was sentenced again to life inside a bloody and gola for the murder of Brad d Franceske. And that was a obviously unanimous verdict this time around, So what about the other victim? Next up for Ryan Sharp was the trial in the murder of Carol Breeden, which, if you'll remember, occurred just across the line in East Baton Ridge Parish.

12:08 And as despicable as this is in my mind, more delays thirty three court appearances for the Breeden family, and in April of twenty twenty five, yet another delay, as the judge in the case ordered what she termed a sanity commission to be formed to determine if this guy was saying it is absolutely infuriating to me that the rights in these cases are always weighted towards the accused and not the victims, and in this case, someone who obviously did everything he said he did pisses me off.

12:48 But on May twenty twenty twenty five, just a few months ago, doctors did find Ryan Sharp competent to stand trial for the murder of Caro Breeden in a trial day was set for November seventeenth of twenty twenty five, and Da hill Or Moore, who is the baton rouge Da and lead prosecutor Dana Cummings, they said they are going to seek life in prison for Ryan Chart. Now likely we're looking at nearly ten years after the killings before just two of the four families we'll see justice. Of course they will never get closure, but sadly justice will have to wait until this trial is over for Buck Hornsby and the family of Tommy Bass. And of course I'll keep you updated Crime Wire weekly. For those of you that have not heard the show, I do this show with Kelly Jennings. It drops every Friday and we just highlight the true crime headlines from around the country for that week, the trending headlines, the news where we offer our little bit of commentary, our unique commentary, if you will. And today I'm going to play you just a little half hour preview of this past week's episode.

14:05 The episodes are about an hour in length, and if you like it, you can search Crime Wire Weekly wherever you're listening right now to this episode. You can follow it and also put it in the description of this episode the links to go file Crime Wire Weekly if you're so inclined. But all right, folks, welcome back to Crime Wire Weekly. We're going to be talking about a ton of crime that has taken place Louisiana police officials.

14:49 They have arrested several police chiefs and several different parishes of the state on a fraud plot that you are absolutely I gonna believe. If you're like me, it will blow your mind. I never saw this one coming that they have been arrested. Interesting thing was they were arrested at an actual Louisiana Police chief convention of all things, so I'm sure that wasn't embarrassing for them. Two women were killed in Kentucky and a trooper was shot in a church. We're going to discuss that as well, and much more so stay tuned for that. And of course I'm Jim Chapman.

15:29 And I'm Kelly Jennings and. How was your week thus for Kelly Jennings. It's been a wild one for me. I've been watching trials on TV. That's always fun. Yeah, I actually enjoy that. Look, some people like to watch movies, some people like to watch cartoons. This girl is watching True Crime twenty four to seven. Yeah, yeah, Well you are a true crime officiat officiata. I believe that's what it is. That's what you are. I couldn't spell that nor pronounce it. But if you're listening to show, you're probably true crime fan just like us. And I'm sure you spend your own time watching trials and things of that. Made all right, So let's get into it. We are going to start out in Louisiana, and four law enforcement officials, including two current police chiefs in Louisiana, are accused of fabricating police reports in a scheme to illegally obtain US visas for immigrants. This from federal prosecutors. A Louisiana businessman is also charged in the scheme.

16:29 The US Attorney's Office in the Western District of Louisiana alleges it between December twenty sixth of twenty fifteenth and July fifteenth of twenty twenty five. That's right, ten years businessman Chandra Khant Patel, O'Dell police chief, Chad Doyle for steal, police Chief Glen Dixon, former Glenn Moore police chief, Tibo Oniithia, and Michael Slainey, and I apologize if that pronunciation is off. A marsh in the fifth ward of the Marshall's Office all conspired to produce false reports that were used to apply for What's Done as You visas where victims of certain crime are eligible. Immigrants seeking you visus would contact Patel.

17:15 Now Patel for I'll just go ahead and tell you this. He owned a subway sandwich shop. He was a business owner in the area, and basically he was a middleman for this whole scheme. And I'm going to deviate from this article because I know this kind of well. He was a middle man for this scheme and he would set up to where he would go to the police chief and he would say, hey, look I've got a guy. He's an immigrant. He's in this country, but he didn't want to go back to wherever it was he was from, and so we would like to pay you five thousand dollars, and in exchange for that five thousand dollars, we want you to say that he's a witness and a crime, or we want you to say that he's a victim of a crime. Now in either one of those two cases, the you visa is a visa specifically developed to keep that person in this country if they are witness or a victim to a crime. Not only that, but if you're a family member of someone that is a witness or victim of a crime that is an immigrant, you also get to stay in the country. So, to really put it into Layman's terms, they were totally fabricating police reports to say that someone was either the victim of a crime or they were a witness to a crime, so that that person could say, in this country, this subway sandwich own, sandwich shop owner would pay five thousand dollars each for this. And get this, there were hundreds

18:46 of immigrants that took advantage of this, if you will, this scheme, and it is all coming to roost, I guess you could say for these folks, and they have dropped the hammer. So they actually went in to the Louisiana Police Chief Convention where these two chiefs were and basically said, you know you're under arrest, you have the right to remain silent. It is wild A Marshall also involved in this, and as I said, the sandwich shop owner was the middleman, mister Patel. Now the only one currently still being held in jail is Patel. The others may bond and they have been released. Of course, everyone's innocent until proven guilty. But I can tell you if the Feds have done all of these years, they've got pretty good evident Yeah. Never even would have considered. You know what, this has made national news. It's breaking everywhere into me, uh, the fact that these are look, folks, these are smaller towns. These are not big towns in the state of Louisiana. And what a lot of these national organizations are really saying is it's amazing this scheme was being able to be off for this long in towns that are this small. I mean, one of these towns has like one police chief and three you know other officers.

20:09 And he's putting in over one hundred of these right, and weren't they all armed robberies or something like? It was like a bizarre when you look at when you look at crime data. Okay, and I don't want to be dry right now, but seriously, you know, when you look at crime data, you have projections of amounts of crime in a certain area and demographics and all that are are looked at that in population, and then there's this disproportionate amount of armed robberies and then you have to wonder, okay, well, obviously those aren't going to trial because they didn't happen. Yeah, so what's that about? And I'm thinking that might have been what cleued in the Feds, maybe a tip, but also you know, maybe that might have been what clued them in, because it just doesn't jive with the traditional I agree over time.

20:52 I mean, this has been ten years, so nobody was clued in for quite a while, which is the shocking part. In your absolutely right, I think a lot of it played into it. But you know, this stuff is elaborate. It's not as easy as saying, Okay, here's a proof of a police report of this guy being involved. He was a witness to an armed robbery, let's say, and here's the police report. So we need him to stay in town because he could be a witness. We don't need him to be deported at this point or made to leave the country. Well, the issue is there's a lot of paperwork behind that. People check that or supposed to be it's verified. There's a lot of things going on there. And so the shocking thing is you could see in New Orleans something like this kind of sliding through because there's so many people in New Orleans, there's so much opportunity. But literally, like one of these towns is like a thousand people total, and you've got one hundred immigrants involved in bank robberies. How they didn't catch at this soon. I'm not blaming anybody.

21:55 I know. This is a big country and you got you know, you have a lack of people to check things like this. But and it wasn't right before yeah, and before people start going, oh, well maybe this was like a do good thing, which I'm not saying it was. But you know, these poor immigrants they didn't want to no, no, no, no, no. They were profiting by this scheme. They were being paid the thousand dollars each. Yes, and so now we've got this corruption that's disgusting. You know these people people always say they should be held to a higher standard. No, how about hold them to the damn standard. Let's just hold them to the standard. And they have they have. This is sick, it's wrong. And then it makes you wonder, as with so many other cases where cops gone bad, you know what other things have they done that are corrupt?

22:40 Are there people behind bars right now that took the fall for something they didn't do? It does make you wonder, It makes your brain start to wonder if you can be paid off that easily? Wow? Yeah, And in the in the biggest picture issue for me, as look, no one hates this more than good cops. No one hates more than good police chiefs, good shriff So you know why, because now they're gonna get scrutinized harder because of stupidity of these two police chiefs. All the police chiefs are gonna be scrutinized harder. It's gonna be harder for legitimate immigrants that this U VISA program was made for. If they do witness a crime, it's gonna be hard for a police chief to even want to process that because I don't want people to think that I've I'm doing what this jackass and in uh forest Wood, Louisiana, did I don't want my people thinking this.

23:38 It creates issues throughout the entire law enforcement community. The job's hard enough as it is, and everyone's screaming all these times. They're saying that the police have done something wrong when they haven't, and then this does this happens, They're like, see, see, and they just use it to add fuel to the fire. Well, let's go to Kentucky. Two women were shot and killed at Kentucky church after a suspect who shot and wounded a state trooper fled there this past Sunday. The two people were killed and were identified by officials as Beverly gam seventy two and Christina Comb's thirty four, and they were a mother and daughter. The suspect was also killed. The suspect was later identified by the coroner as forty seven year old Guy House, who died from a gunshot wound at the church. Two others, both men, were wounded by the gunman, Weather said. Police said Monday that both men were in critical condition and the state trooper was in stable condition. Family members of the victims said that House showed up at the church looking for one of GM's daughters, who is the mother of his three children. When they said that she wasn't there, he responded, quote, I guess someone's going to have to die.

24:40 Quote. The family members, who are Gum's daughters, said House shot and killed their mother and also shot their father, James, who is the pastor of the Richmond Road Baptist Church. The other victims, they said, were another one of their sisters who was killed and her husband who was wounded. The family said that House allegedly suffered from severe mental health issues, had an ongoing drug problem with methamphetamines, and was under the influence when he shot their relatives. The police chiefs said the shooting began after the trooper pulled him over near the Bluegrass Airport in Lexington. After shooting the trooper before noon on Sunday, the suspect carjacked another vehicle and ended up at the Richmond Road Baptist Church in southwest Lexington. No injuries were reported during the carjacking.

25:23 The shooting spree ended when Lexington police shot and killed the suspect. Horrible shoot at an injure, severely injured a state trooper where it occurred at a church, horrific. Most of the people going there, I would say all of the people probably going to that church. Nobody wanted to see that that day. It doesn't really say there had to be some kind of. Issue there with well, it says too he obviously went there to kill somebody. Because he said somebody, he. Doesn't specify where they estranged, and you know, everybody could see this coming. It doesn't really specify if this was just a totally out of character thing. But with them accusing him of being mentally ill and obvious, thank you, Captain Obvious for that. You've got to be pretty crazy to do what he just pulled off.

26:06 He wasn't too crazy to get the gun, load the bullets, shoot the cop, make it to the church, and try to kill everybody. So yeah, and so just a horrible situation unfolding in Kentucky. And hopefully some information come on as to what's burred this. Yeah, I'm sure there'll be some background information. But for that family, I would like to say, you know, absolute prayers and thoughts, and I hope that the survivors that are hanging in there make a full recovery and they can get some sort of answers. Okay, let's go to Indiana, and a communication through snapchat has triggered an FBI investigation into an Indianapolis mother of seven for an alleged sex trafficking attempt of her seven month old daughter that ultimately led to her arrest. Now.

26:52 When first confronted by agents, this was in November eleventh of twenty twenty four, Morgan Staff, who was thirty two, told them that her Snapchat had recently been hacked and she no longer had access to it. She also said she was upset at the loss of the photos of her seven children. To these agents confront her about obvious allegations and she says, oh, my account's been hacked. The woman then told them she received an email from the social media platform that told her her account had been permanently banned for suspected online commercial sex transactions. Huh, I wonder why. Later in the month, she allegedly admitted to the Indiana Department of Child Services that she had lied to federal agents about losing her Snapchat account because quote I wanted the FBI to leave. After that unproductive initial interview with Staff, the FBI then reached out to the Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department for assistance in this case, and the detective was able to acquire a search warrant to investigate STAPs snap chet account. Subsequently, guess what selfies were found of her that had been saved to the account after her FBI interview that suggested she still had access to that Snapchat account, so she was lying. Further digging found that the account had sent over seven thousand messages over a three day span. How do you do that?

28:22 Even in November, shortly before Snapchat reached out to the FBI, the government agency launched its investigation. Now, one message was repeated eighty one times in that barrage get this quote? Would you be interested in buying my needs so I can get my babies diapers? STAPs account was also reportedly added four hundred other accounts during that same three day span. The investigation showed that all of the messages had been sent from an area near stabs home, and all of them had been sent after she claimed she lost access to that Snapchat account. The specific message that triggered Snapchat to alert the FEDS reportedly included three photos of Stapp's infant daughter. Along with them was the message you can and I'm not gonna say the word, but it's the F word. Her for four hundred dollars half now, the rest later, I'll send my address. I do live alone, and her dad is not in the picture. That was arrested now facing a Level two felony charge of attempted sex trafficking, booked into the Marion County Jail and being held on a two hundred thousand dollars bond.

29:41 kJ go to say what she said. First, you know, y'all know you know by now that I that I have a I wish I could have her, give me, give me that child, and I will protect her with everything and me. And I've never seen her, I don't know her. And this woman gave birth to that child. And to say her daddy is out of the picture, which is all she's saying is she's defenseless. She's defenseless, she's defensive. You ain't got to worry about him coming about. There's nobody here that will stand up to you. And you can have free reign with my baby. I hope all seven of her children are removed from her custody, and I hope that she never ever ever gets them back.

30:25 It's discussed, and. I hope that those other children who I'm assuming have to be older just by process of elimination. Here are vetted very carefully for what maybe they they have been through my. Ams, you are you don't deserve to be walking around with oxygen in your lungs. No, and don't ever call her mother. She's not a mother. There's nothing motherly about that, you know. I just I remember one time, Jim kind of off the on topic. But I pulled up at a bank one time and not a very small load of the ground car, and I'll make it short, but I looked up and I saw these little fingers come over the top of my hood while I was in the drive through, and I ended up finding a baby in a diaper in front of. My vehicle, just by themselves. Yes, oh my god. Yes.

31:08 And so I got out of my car. Everybody was stunned what was going on. I picked him up. He was in his little diaper, and I'm looking around. There's no parent around, And so the bank teller was like, bring him inside, bring him inside, and everything maternal in me said, no, I'm not going to do that. And I held that baby, called the police and I would not even let him go to anybody because the maternal instinct was so strong to protect him because I felt like he had nobody and he didn't. And I know it's very bizarre, but the mother ended up being in Walmart, which was next door to that bank. Well, how did the baby get away from month? Great question? That baby had enough time to walk out of that Walmart and toddle over. The people of that area ought to pay attention and follow through with this one.

31:52 Yeah, that would be in that rage, that would be in this situation. And it's one of the worst, honestly, one of the worst messages I've ever seen. I've done this a little while, I've never seen something that bad when it comes to child exploitation. Yeah, disgusting. Well it makes me mad me too, it makes me mad. And I know I'm gonna just say I hope that baby's in custody with someone who's loving and karen for her, and that you know, she'll be. Taken care of, you know, And just to put a put a period on this story. There are other options out there for people that can't handle kids, or don't want kids, or any of those sorts of things. Now they have these these you can drop the baby off and it's like a I don't know if you.

32:44 I know it's the station type things. Yeah, they have those. They have those in Hammond, even Louisiana. I don't know if they have one in Livingston Parish. But you don't even have to like explain, explain nothing. You put the baby in there, you push through, and it's it's almost like a bank deposit deal. On the other side. The baby comes and there's someone there, and it is to avoid people just dropping their babies off in the middle of nowhere that they can't take care of. So, yeah, this was this that's wonderful too, But this wasn't that. No, that wasn't now. I was more responding to your bank situation. Yeah, initially I thought maybe she just liked the baby.

33:25 Guse I saw a thing too, just to that point, knowledge is power. But I wondered, like in cold states that have those boxes where you can turn over your baby, like what happens if nobody's there? But I researched itickats, I'm a dork, and it said that they have alerts on them, and so an alert goes off, it tells somebody and whoever is if there's nobody actually in the building at that time, it gives an alert and they have so many minutes to get there and recover the baby. But I think it had a warmer in it too, so like it the baby wouldn't be freezing. If it was snowing or something, it wouldn't be freezing. And because a woman had dropped off her child and she had twins, actually she dropped off twin babies, and she had packed the diaper bag everything that the kids would need, and she put the diaper bag in there, and it caused this fiasco because the babies were too old. They were past what the standard time frame was.

34:14 They were like sixteen. No, yeah, yeah, they've had a lot of here. Here you go take them. These things got these things don't listen. So let's go to California. A human skin teddy bear that was discovered outside a convenience store in California over the weekend was likely placed there as a prank, despite police launching an investigation. On Sunday, July thirteenth, the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department responded to reports of possible human remains outside an AMPM store at a gas station. A coroner investigator took possession of the object. Authorities had cordoned off the parking lot while the coroner investigator looked at the bear, which had been left just outside the store's entrance.

34:56 Despite the ongoing investigation, the bear is actually made out of and is currently being sold online, described as a human skin teddy bear for one hundred and sixty five dollars. Kind of weird to me that you would throw away a one hundred and sixty five dollars teddy bear unless you were trying to stir something up. That's kind of an expensive bear. South Carolina artist Robert Kelly of Dark Seed Creations is now taking credit for the work, confirming that he had shipped one of the bears to a customer there last week. Kelly said he'd started getting tons of messages and calls from people telling us about the incident after the reports made headlines. Our work is pretty easily recognizable, and people were sending the articles left and right. I looked, and sure enough, it was the bear I sent out last week. Kelly continued that every artist wants credit for their work, So I said I made that, and I haven't been able to catch up with messages since.

35:45 Kelly added, I guess I'd probably be lying if I said, I wasn't enjoying it a little bit. I'm an independent artist, so a little attention is sometimes good, regardless of not being able to condone or whatever. I don't know if the guy broke any laws or if it was just a prank, but it looks like he definitely got some people riled up. The artist, who specializes in horror, horror special effects and haunted attractions set The artist posted a video of the Bears in question on Facebook on Sunday, writing that his work has been quote used in a prank. No, I do not have any knowledge of the buyer's intentions, nor was I involved in a prank on the other side of the nation from me, the artist wrote, adding that anybody can still order one of the bears online.

36:27 One of the things that we're known for is that we make a lot of these props that are fake human skin, Kelly said, So those are all made out of latex, they are created from a mold, and our stuff is pretty recognizable in the industry. So once this happened a few hours ago, my phone started blowing up and my Facebook started blowing up. You must be pretty good at what you do if people are buying it and then it's used in the industry and well recognized. And I have seen pictures of it. You can google and see pictures. We'll put some on the Facebook page. Actually, But it was funny, y'all because Kelly originally messaged me when we didn't know it was fake yet. So she messaged me and she's like, with the link to an article referencing this before it came out that it was fake, and she was like, oh my gosh, we got to talk about this, and it was like the next day it had went viral and the next day, come to find out it was fake, but it sure looked real. Yeah, and so we'll put some pictures on the page. But I don't think this guy did anything wrong. I mean, he sold it on eBay, someone bought it and decided to pull up joke. It was a prank. Look. We covered a story a few years back where it was a like a mannequin that somebody had put in the woods and it looked like a dead body. And I know that's not funny, but I mean they did it intentionally as a prank to prank people driving down from the interstate, and it looked just like a dead body

37:58 so much showed that the police were called and they show up and they're like guns drawing and everything, thinking there's a dead person back here, and you know, then they're like, wait a minute, that's a mannequin. So it happens. It's where I get aggravated. Is you waste police time when you do something like the second example. This first example is is just on I just know this. I spent one hundred and sixty five dollars on a damn teddy Bear. Better not end up outside a convenience store. One hundred percent. We're going a long way away from here where we go Pakistan. Good God, I told you this is global. We're going around the world. This show is global. We don't play around, and we're going to tell you. Look, I hear all the time that people who don't travel outside of the United States don't really know what it's like in other countries. Want give you. I'm going to give you an example of that that's absolutely horrific.

38:55 Uh. Pakistan police allege a father shot and killed his sixteen year old daughter on Tuesday, July eighth, after she refused to delete her TikTok account. According to a police report, and this is the part that is absolutely insane. According to a police report, investigator said the father killed his daughter for honor and he was arrested soon after. The girl's father had asked her to delete her TikTok. On refusal, he killed her. The sixteen year old's family initially tried to portray the murder as a suicide. One thousand women a year are killed murdered in Pakistan due to what is known as honor killings. So this typically happens when a woman's behavior seems to have violated traditional expectations and they face extreme punishment from their family members. On January thirtieth, as a matter of fact, of this year, a teenager was shot and killed by her family in an honor killing because of their view on her online presence on social media and so it said. Fourteen year old hira am War was living in New York City at the time, posting videos on TikTok like all these all these kids do.

40:11 She was living in a different world than her family. She went to visit her family in Pakistan on a family vacation. Several days after arriving, she was shot by her father and uncle, who said they were performing in honor killing because of the inappropriate videos that she brought shame into the family. Pakistan society often operates under a strict code of honor. Women are often told by their male relatives what choices they can make around education, employment, and even who they can marry. So that still goes on, y'all. Yeah, And so there was actually another case, I mean from the I think the eighties or early nineties, where there was a family of some type of Middle Eastern descent and they were living here though in the US.

40:58 The little girl, the teenager was started dating a boy from her high school and the dad did not approve, nor did the mom of who she was dating, and so they killed her with their hands in the house. But the FBI was investigating them as possible terrorists, and so they caught it on audio, the whole killing, but they tried to put that off as a uh that the girl had attacked them and they defended themselves. So you know, I say that I'm not well traveled, but I do understand culture, and I have studied, you know, you learn about different cultures in different areas. You know. Here if if if a young girl is doing something, I'm assuming this is a sexualized type. They felt like she was. Being overlydar of your skin.

41:39 You're sexualized, right, and so you know here we're like put on a shirt, don't put pictures of yourself in swimsuit or you know that are in that. But we don't kill each other because we love our children. And I did. There's a complete disconnect here. I cannot understand that you would want to off your child over your own honor, like off of your own. Like what you know. And I just can't understand that. And I'm glad it's not. What we do here. Yeah. And the shocking thing is this still occurs, sounding like something out of the stun age, right. This is this people don't realize once you travel out of how great this country is, how much freedom you actually have. I know some people think they get no freedom here. Anymore freedom is gone. Let me tell you something good. To Pakistan for a day. Go to Pakistan for a day. Yeah.

42:28 I have a friend whose friend went there, and she's very tall, but she did the garb, she wore all the stuff she's supposed to wear, but a sliver of her ankle was showing because of her height. And a man on the street. A complete stranger on the street had like a stick or a walking cane and whacked her in the ankles as hard as he could for her inappropriate showing of her ankle. Dang, you didn't beat that out, you would have died. Because I would have turn around, been like bitch and start I know you want to talk shit you I mean, Boosy in Pakistan would have came out. That's insane, you know. Yeah, that really is. God bless you for a world. Hey everyone, Crime Wire Weekly has moved to its own new channel.

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