July 28, 2026

Part 2 | 50 Shades of Evil: KANSAS - “BTK” Dennis Rader

Part 2 | 50 Shades of Evil: KANSAS - “BTK” Dennis Rader

Part 2 of a 2 Part Series For more than three decades, Wichita, Kansas lived under the shadow of a killer who named himself. He called himself BTK—Bind, Torture, Kill—and he made sure the police and the public never forgot it. Between 1974 and 1991,...

Part 2 of a 2 Part Series
For more than three decades, Wichita, Kansas lived under the shadow of a killer who named himself. He called himself BTK—Bind, Torture, Kill—and he made sure the police and the public never forgot it. Between 1974 and 1991, Dennis Rader murdered at least ten people, often in their own homes, binding them, torturing them, and strangling or suffocating them while living a completely ordinary suburban life.
This episode traces the full arc of the BTK case: the brutal first murders of the Otero family in 1974, the years of taunting letters and packages, the long silences that turned the case into one of America’s most infamous cold cases, and the arrogant return to communication in 2004 that finally undid him. We’ll examine how a single floppy disk and a digital metadata trail led investigators straight to a church computer… and how familial DNA sealed the identification. It’s the story of a man who believed he could control everything—his victims, the police, the narrative—until one careless slip proved him wrong. A deep dive into the double life, the psychology of control, and the painstaking investigation that finally stopped BTK.

Timestamps
05:59 Maureen Hedge
12:02 Floppy Disk Mistake
14:27 Rader’s Arrest
57:03 Dolores Davis’s Final Known Murder
1:02:25 Sentencing and Aftermath

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Hey everyone, and welcome back to Bloody Angola. I'm your host,

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Jim Chapman, and today we are continuing on with the

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fifty Shades of Evil Kansas series and with this second

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episode covering BTK. Now, when I left off last episode,

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BTK had killed seven people, with the last being twenty

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five year old Nancy Fox, and this was on December

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eighth of nineteen seventy seven. After that murder, he wrote

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his first BTK letter turning the police, and a media

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storm ensued and then it all stopped. Nothing occurred in

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the cases, everything went cold, and then nearly eight years

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after the murder of Nancy Fox, Dennis Raider would strike

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again on April twenty seventh, nineteen eighty five. Now, his

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eighth known victim was one of the most shocking because

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he was somewhat familiar with this person. She just lived

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six doors down from Raider, and that was fifty three

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year old Marine Hedge. Marine Hedge was a divorced mother

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who was working as a secretary. She lived in Line

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at this time, and she had a routine that Raider

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knew well because he was her neighbor. He saw her

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all the time and it would make her very easy

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to stalk. On the night of the murder, Raider left

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a cub scout meeting he was leading, and he used

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an excuse he said he was feeling sick. He changed

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into what he called his quote hit clothes and he

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drove to a bowling alley located just a short distance

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from Marine Hedge's home. At that point, he calls a

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taxi and he has the driver get just outside the neighborhood,

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and at that point he fakes like he's sick. He

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tells the driver to pull over, and then he tells him,

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I'll walk the rest of the way. The driver leaves,

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and he does indeed walk the rest of the way

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to her house. Now, he sneaks into that house because

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her car was out front, but she was not inside,

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so he waited, and then a little while later she arrived,

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but much to his surprise, she had a male visitor

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with him. Now at this time, he's hiding in her

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bedroom in her closet. After about an hour or so passes,

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that mail visitor leaves and she goes into her bedroom

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where BTK was waiting. She gets into the bed and

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he lets her go to sleep, and then BTK attacks her.

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He binds her, he strangles her, and he eventually kills her.

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And after that murder, he transports her body in the

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trunk of her own car to a remote location in

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a nearby county where he poses this body and then

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he takes photographs of it, because now he's wanting pictures

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of these bodies so he can relive that experience. Right

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then he disposes of the body. Now, there were a

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lot of significant changes here from the previous crimes. First,

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Raider removed the body from the scene entirely, something he

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had not done before. He also took more risk by

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operating so closely to home. Marine Hedge knew him, though

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not well. She was aware he lived in the neighborhood

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and had he not killed her, had something happened and

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he had to leave that house for some reason before

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finishing the job, she knew exactly who he was, so

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he was taking huge risk here. And that was also

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one of the distinct differences between this killing and the

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other killings where they were further away from his home base,

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if you will. Also, the age was off. He deviated

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from these younger females. And my theory on that is

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you have to keep in mind a couple of those

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gals gave Raider a run for his money physically. They

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fought hard, and I would surmise he saw an older

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woman as less risky due to the fact that he

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had aged nearly a decade since the last killing. This

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guy's just getting older, so Marine Hedges body was discovered

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days later. The investigation once again linked the crime to

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BTK through the binding and the strangulation and the other

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forensic details, but there was no link as far as DNA.

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It was just really police ascertaining that BTK probably did this.

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Now for Raider again, he just turns to normal life.

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He attends church, he works as a compliance officer at

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that time for Park City, and he raises his children,

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all the while knowing that he had taken the life

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of someone so close to his own home. Her murder

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further complicated any remaining sense of in the Wichita area.

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It had been a while since BTK had struck and

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these people thought, well, maybe he was dead or maybe

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he was in jail. Now they realize they're not, and

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once again wichital is cast into fear, and this fear

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was real. These killings have been going on now for

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well over a decade. And it was common knowledge that

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they were all linked. Even though the police didn't say that,

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everyone knew in Wichital that this was a serial killer.

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He was going around killing these women and just mocking

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police with these letters, et cetera. Now, this period also

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coincided with raiders growing involvement in his church. He was

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elected president of that church council at Christ Lutheran Church,

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and he continued his role with the Boy Scouts, just

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living his best life while wreaking havoc. Behind the scenes,

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BTK was showing a rapidly increasing arrogance and comfort with

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taking risk. He'd weighed out another year before his next

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known killing went On September sixteenth, nineteen eighty six, he

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would kill twenty eight year old Vicky Weagerly. Now, Vicki

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was a young mother, and she was attacked in her

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own home in broad daylight around noon while her husband

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was at work. Her young son was in that house

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with her, and this murder, in particular, would later provide

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one of the most important pieces of forensic evidence in

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the entire BTK investigation. Vicky was a loving wife and mother.

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She was living in a quiet Witchita neighborhood and she

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and her husband, Bill had a two year old son.

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His name was Brandon, and Vicki was known by everybody

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who knew her as having just this warm personality. She

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was taking piano lessons and on that Tuesday morning, she

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was at home practicing the piano when Raider knocked on

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the door. Raider was posing as a telephone repairman. He

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would gain entry into the home, and once inside, he

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would quickly overpower Vicki. He'd bound her with cord and

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her own pantyhose, strangled her, and sexually assaulted her dead

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body by masturbating onto her. Thankfully, her young two year

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old boy was unharmed, and it's widely considered it was

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only due to his gender. Now Bill weagerly the husband.

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He came home for lunch, he discovers that his wife

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is dead. He finds his two year old son alive,

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and the husband calls police, and initially he's the prime

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suspect the police. For a long time, we're not even

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considering this a BTK killing. Now Raider. He would take

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several trophies from this home, including Vickie's driver's license. He

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also left behind a crucial piece of evidence, a single

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hair that was later matched to him through mitochondrial DNA,

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and that clue would become pivotal when advanced testing became

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available years later. So even though they didn't have the

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means to test that DNA at the time, they saved

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it and they were able to match it years later.

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Now Raider was becoming increasingly bold. Yet again he would

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escape undetected and return to his normal routine. Now for

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the Weakerly family, obviously the loss was devastating. Bill Weagerly

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would raise their son loan and he would live with

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that pain and pictures in his mind of finding his

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wife murdered. Vicky was remembered as a talented, caring woman

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whose life was cut short in the safe place, the

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safest place she should have been, her own home now.

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Raider later sent a package in two thousand and four,

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nearly twenty years later, that included Vicky's driver's license and

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photos that have been taken of her body at the scene.

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And this communication also would help link the case definitively

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to BTK. It will renew that public terror, and it

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would also take our husband off the suspect less and

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Vicki's death brought the total known victims to nine. Rader

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would later claim one more life before going dormant for

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over a decade, and that death would occur in nineteen

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ninety one. So on January nineteenth, nineteen ninety one, Dennis

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Raider committed what is believed to be his final known murder.

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His tenth victim was sixty two year old Dolores d. Davis,

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a grandmother y'all, who lived alone in a rural area

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near Wichitaal Now, this killing came after a long period

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of nothing dormancy four years later, and it showed Raiders

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still capable of killing even as he aged and he

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became more entrenched in his community. Roles Delorus Davis was kind,

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She was an active woman. She he enjoyed a retirement

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and her time with family, and she lived in a

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small home in Park City. Raider had been trolling that

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area and he selected her as his next project, kind

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of on a whim. He would break into her home

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late at night, confront her, and use those methods of

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binding and strangulation to kill her. He took her body

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from the home, placed it in the trunk of his

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own car, drove it to a remote location, posed her

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took photographs, just like what he did to marine hedge,

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and he would leave her body under a bridge in

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Sedgwick County, where it was discovered days later. Now Raider

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would later admit that by the nineteen nineties his urges

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they got less frequent, but when they struck he would

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still act. He took trophies from Dolores's home and he

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would keep them with his growing collection of mementos from

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previous crimes. And with that killing, Deloris Davis victim count

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would reach ten with BTK. So at this point all

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those killings spanned from nineteen seventy four to nineteen ninety one.

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His game with law enforcement in the public would extend

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far longer than that. However, His communications would become key.

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The letters, the poems, the packages, the taunts, it all

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became as much a part of his signature as binding

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and strangling people. So by early two thousand and five,

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more than thirty years after the first killings, the BTK

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case had become one of the longest unsolved serial murder

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investigations in American history, and Dennis Raider had grown pretty

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complacent in this double life. He was a respected figure

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on one side and an arrogant murderer on the other,

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and I'll give you an example of that. In two

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thousand and four, this asshole just could not let it go.

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He had to get back in the spotlight. He won

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on it. Everyone to know that he was still alive

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and well, so he starts sending communications again. One package

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sent to a local TV station contained a floppy disk,

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and y'all, this would be the biggest mistake he ever

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made because even floppy disk back then you need a

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square bendable disc that you would put in an old computer.

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They have what's called metadata, So when pictures or letters

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are loaded onto them, that disc will make a note

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of where this occurred, like a location. Not only that,

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but Raider would use Microsoft Word to type out the

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letter that he loaded onto that floppy disk. And remember

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you register Microsoft Word with your name and all that

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stuff when you download it, so that floppy showed not

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only the location where this floppy disk was inserted, it

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would also show his name. When police examine that metadata,

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it showed that that disk the last time it was

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loaded in computer was loaded at Christ Lutheran Church in Wichita,

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and the Microsoft Word document. When they researched that and

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found out who it was registered to, it came up

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with the name Dennis. So the police they start doing

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some research and they figure out there's indeed a Dennis

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that is a church leader in that church. So police

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they start surveilling secretly Dennis Rater and in the meantime,

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they are trying to figure out how to get DNA. Now,

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they can't just walk up to Rater and say, can

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we have your DNA because he's going to say hell no. Right,

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they knew that, they knew. They didn't want to walk

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up to his family members and ask that although they

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knew he had a daughter and a wife. So what

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do they do? Well, they figured out his daughter had

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been in a medical facility somewhere and some blood was drawn,

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and smartly, these police get a warrant for the daughter's

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blood and they didn't have to alert her to do

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that because at this time in history, familiar DNA existed.

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So to get that blood, they tested and guess what

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to match to Dennis Writer as the father of that daughter.

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And it also matched blood found on the scene to

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Dennis Writer. So they have what they need to make

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an arrest, and on February twenty fifth, two thousand and five,

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officers indeed arrest Dennis Writer, he was driving home from work.

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He gets pulled over near his home in Park City,

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and Writer he appeared stunned, but he didn't resist officers

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or freak out, And when he's taken into custody, he

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reportedly asked if the arrest was related to a traffic warrant.

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He was still playing the role of an upstanding citizen, y'all. Now,

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of course, as you would expect, when this ocurred, the

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news exploded across Wichita in the nation. Friends, neighbors, and

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church members were in complete shock and disbelief when they

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found out that it was Dennis Rader who was accused

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of being BTK. This was a mild mannered church leader

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and a family man in their view, his wife, Paula

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and the children. Of course, they were devastated. Now, so

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devastated in fact, that the same day Rader gets arrested,

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his wife moves out of the house and never returned.

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So during initial interviews, Raider was very cooperative. Over the

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course of several hours, he begins confessing to the ten

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known murders in graphic detail. He spoke with a calm,

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almost eerie, matter of fact tone, and it really freaked

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investigators out and it freaked me out when I heard

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this particular confession. He also referred to as victims as

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projects and described his rituals without any remorse. And at

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this point in time, one of the most feared serial

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killers in history, whose crimes had spanned decades, was finally

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in custody, and following that arrest on February twenty fifth,

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two thousand and five, he does get charged with ten

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counts of first degree murder. Now, the legal proceedings that

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followed were dramatic. It was everything you would think it

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would be on a case like this, And on June

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twenty seventh, two thousand and five, Raider appeared in district

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Court before Judge Greg Waller for what would become one

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of the most memorable sentencing hearings in Kansas history. Raid

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surprised many by pleading guilty to all ten counts. Now

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there would be no lengthy trial. Instead, the court would

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allow him to give a detailed confession and open court

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and speaking in a clinical voice is the best way

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I can describe Rob Writer would cover each murtyr methodically,

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the planning, the entry into the homes, the bindings, the strangulations,

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and his sexual gratification at the scenes. He referred to

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the victims by their project numbers in open court, and

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he showed little, if any emotion. Here is that actual

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court confession.

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All right, mister Raider, I need to find out more

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information on that particular day, the fifteenth day of January

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nineteen seventy four. Can you tell me where you went

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to kill mister Joseph Otero.

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Mmmm.

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I think it's eighteen thirty four, ititchmore?

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All right? Can you tell me a proximly what time

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of day you went there?

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Somewhere between seven and seven thirty.

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This particular location that you know these people?

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No, that's uh, well, that was part of my I

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guess my watchital fantasy. These people were selected. All right,

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So you.

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Okay, you were engaged in some kind of fantasy during

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this period of time, yes, sir? All right, Now when

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you use the term fantasy, is this something you were

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doing for your personal pleasure?

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Sexual fantasy? Sir?

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I see, So you went to this residence and what

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occurred then?

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Well, I had did some thinking on what I was

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going to do to either missus Oterol or Josephine and

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basically broke into the house or didn't break into the house.

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But when they came out of the house, I came

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in in confront of the family, and then we went

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from there. All right.

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Had you planned this beforehand to some degree?

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Yes, so after got in the house that I lost

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control of it. That it was, you know, back in

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my mind, I had some ideas what I was going

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to do, but I just I basically panic the first day.

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So beforehand, did you know who was there in the house.

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I thought Missus o'toll and the two kids, the two

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younger kids were in the house. I didn't realize mister

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or Farrell was going to be there.

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All right, How did you get into the house?

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I came to the back door, cut the phone lines,

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waited at the back door at reservations about even going

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or just walking away. But pretty soon the door opened

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and I was in. All right.

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So the door opened. Was it opened for you?

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I think one of the kids, I think the junior

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or not junior, Yes, the the young girl, Joseph opened

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the door. You've probably let the dog out, because the

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dog is in the house at that time. All right.

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When you went into the house. What happened then, Well.

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I liked in front the family, Uh, pulled a pistol

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in front of mister Cheryl and asked him to you

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know that I was there too. Basically, I was wanted, Uh,

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I wanted to get the car. I was hungry food.

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I was wanted and asked him why down in the

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living room, And at that time I realized that wouldn't

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be a really good idea, so I finally the dog

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was a real problem, so I asked mister Cheryl if

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he could get the dog out, So he had one

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of the kids put it out, and then I took

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him back to the bedroom. You took who back the

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family the bedroom?

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The four members are what happened then.

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Now at that time, I tied him up while still

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holding him a gunpoint well in between tying and yes, yeah.

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All right, after you type him up warter crew.

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Well, uh, they started complaining about being tied up, and

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I read reloosened the bonds a couple of times, tried

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to make mister Arrell as comfortable as I could. I

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currently had a cracked rib from a car accident, so

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I had him put a pillow down before his head.

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Had he put a I think he's Parker or a

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coat underneathing. Uh they uh, you know, they talked to

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me about, you know, giving the car and whatever money.

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I guess they didn't have very much money. And there

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I realized that, you know, I was already I didn't

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have a mask on everything. They already could id me,

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and Uhde made a decision to go ahead and shut

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them down. I guess I'm a strangle all right.

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What did you do to Joseph O'to, jose O'to, Joseph

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Otero senior, mister O'taro, the father.

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I put a plastic bag over his head and then

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some quarts and then tighten it.

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M This was in the bedroom, Yes, sir, Did he

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in fact suffocate and die as a result of this?

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Not right away, No, sir, he didn't. What happened well

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after that. I did miss this onto. I had never

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strangled anyone before, so I really didn't know how much

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pressure you had to put on a person or how long.

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It would take. But was she also tied up there

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in Yes?

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Yeah, both their hands and their feet were tied up.

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She was on the bed. Where were the children, Well,

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Josephine was on the bed and Junior was on the floor.

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This time, so we're talking first of all about Joseph Otero.

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So you had put the bag over his head and

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tied it that he did not die right away? Can

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you tell me what happened in regards to Joseph.

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He moved over real quick like, and I think he

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tore a hole in the bag, and I could tell

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that he was All those there that at that time

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the whole family just went They went panicked on me.

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So I worked pretty clear, well, you work pretty quick well.

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I mean I I strangled missus o'taro and then she went

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out or passed out. I thought she was dead. She

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passed out. Then I strangled uh Josephine. She passed out

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or I thought she was dead.

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And uh.

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Then I went over and put a uh, and then

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put a bag on Junior said, and and then uh,

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I remember right, Uh, missus o'toll came back. She came

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back and uh.

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Certainly he asked me about Joseph oterot Senior headed he

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had torn a hole in the bag, what to do

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with him?

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Then I put another bag over or either that or

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a I recollect. I think I put a either a

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cloth or a T shirt or something over it over

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his head, and then a bag another bag and him

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did he subsequently die, well, yes, I mean, I mean

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I was. I didn't just stay there and watch him that.

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I was moving around the room.

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But all right, so you indicated you strangled missus o'toll

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after you had done this, is that correct?

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Now I went back and strangled her again and that

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finally killed her at that time.

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So this is in regards to count too. He first

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of all put the bag over Joseph Otaro's head and

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he tore a hold of the bag. Then you went ahead,

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did you strangled missus o'taro? Then okay, did you go well?

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First of all, mister o'taroll was strangled or a bag

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put over his head and strangled. Then I thought he

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was going down, and I went over and strangled missus o'taro.

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I thought she was down. Then I strangled Josephine thought

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she was down, and then I went over to Junior

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and put the bag on his head. After that, missus

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o'taro walked back up, and you know she was pretty upset.

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What's going on? So I came back and uh, at

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that point in time, strangled her for the death. Strangle

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at that time with your hands or no, with a court,

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with a with a rope and then I, uh, I

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think at that point in time, I redid mister O'taroll,

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put the bag over his head, went over and then

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to Junior. Before that she asked me to to save

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her sons, so I actually had taken a bag off

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and then I was really upset at that point in time.

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So basically, when mister Teraroll was down, missus Otto was down,

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I went ahead and took Junior and put another bag

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over his head and took him to the other bedroom.

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But that time, what did you do? Then? Put a

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bag of his head to put a cloth over his head,

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a T shirt and bag so he couldn't tear a

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hole in it, and he such some point died from that,

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And then I went back. Josephine had well back up.

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What did you do? Then? I took her to the

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basement and eventually huged her.

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Are you hung her in the facement?

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Yes, sir?

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Did you do anything else at that time?

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Yes? I had some sexual fantasies, but that was after

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she was hung. All right, what did you do? Then?

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Let's do the house kind of cleaned it up. It's

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called the right hand rule. You go from room and

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room pick care of things up. I think I took

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mister Otaroll's watch there. I guess I took a radio.

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I forgot about that, but apparently I took a radio.

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Why did you take these things? I don't know. I

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have no idea what happened. Then I got the keys

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of the car. In fact, I had the keys I

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think earlier before that, because I want to make sure

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I had a way of getting out of the house

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and clean the house up a little bit, make sure

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everything's packed up, and left through the front door. And

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they went there, went over to their car, and then

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drove over to Dylan's, left the car there, and then

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eventually walked back to my far.

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All right, now, sir, from what you have just said,

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I take it that the facts you've told me apply

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to both counts one, all of counts one, two, three,

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and four.

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Is that correct? And yes, sir, now, mister.

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Raider, yes, and that is originally I believe he indicated

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eighteen thirty four edge one and the address was actually

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eight o three edge.

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Allright, but i'd ask you for the curtain said we

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count Yes, man, he's a case of what had happened.

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I don't believe the exact address is importance a right,

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mister Raider. We will now turn to count five. In

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that count, it is claimed that honor about the fourth

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day of April nineteen seventy four, Cedric County, Kansas said

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you unlawfully killed Catherine Bright maliciously, wilfully, deliberately, and with

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premeditation by stananulation and stabbing, inflicting injuries from which she

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did die on April fourth, nineteen seventy four. Can you

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tell me what occurred on that.

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Day off the I don't know how exactly say that.

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I had many what I call them projects. They were

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different people in the town that I followed, watched. Kathleen

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Brien was one of the next targets. I guess this

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might would indicate how did you select her? Just driving

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by one day and I saw her go in the

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house with somebody else, and I thought that's a possibility.

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There was many many places in the area, collychill, They're

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all over which tall any way, that's it just was

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basically a selection process worked toward it. If it didn't work,

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I'd just move on to something else in the In

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the my kind of person is stocking and strolling. You

466
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go through the trolling stage and then the stocking stage.

467
00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:15.359
She was in the stocking stage when this happened.

468
00:29:17.480 --> 00:29:20.960
All right, So so you identified Catherine Bright as a

469
00:29:21.039 --> 00:29:24.720
potential Yes, sir, what did you do here in Sedrick County?

470
00:29:24.720 --> 00:29:24.880
Then?

471
00:29:25.079 --> 00:29:28.079
Pardon, what did you do then here in Cedric County.

472
00:29:28.480 --> 00:29:31.920
On this particular day. Yes, I broke into the house

473
00:29:32.119 --> 00:29:34.079
and waited for her to come home.

474
00:29:34.759 --> 00:29:36.720
How did you break into the house through the back

475
00:29:36.759 --> 00:29:40.519
door on the east side? All right, and you waited

476
00:29:40.559 --> 00:29:42.680
for her to come home? Where did you wait.

477
00:29:43.160 --> 00:29:45.359
In the house there? Probably close to the vedroom. I

478
00:29:45.400 --> 00:29:48.279
walked to the house and kind of figured out where

479
00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:49.680
I'd be if they came through.

480
00:29:50.200 --> 00:29:51.640
All right. What happened? Then?

481
00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:56.240
She and Kevin Bright came in. I wasn't expecting him

482
00:29:56.240 --> 00:29:59.559
to be there and come find out, I guess they

483
00:29:59.559 --> 00:30:03.960
were really that time. I approached him and told him

484
00:30:03.960 --> 00:30:08.720
I was wanted in California, needed some car, basically the

485
00:30:08.759 --> 00:30:11.799
same thing that I told the Tartos, kind of ease

486
00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:15.000
and make them feel better, and proceeded to I think

487
00:30:15.039 --> 00:30:17.559
I had him tie I think I had him tiger

488
00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:21.079
up first, and then I tied him up or vice versa.

489
00:30:21.079 --> 00:30:22.039
I don't remember right now.

490
00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:25.440
But let me ask. You indicated that you had some

491
00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:28.000
items to tie these people with.

492
00:30:28.200 --> 00:30:30.640
Did you bring these items, both the old tarts with

493
00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:38.000
this tartles? I did. I'm not really sure on the brights.

494
00:30:39.839 --> 00:30:42.680
There was some when I had working with the police,

495
00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:46.440
there was some controversy on that. Probably more likely I did.

496
00:30:46.799 --> 00:30:50.640
But if if I had brought my stuff and used

497
00:30:50.640 --> 00:30:54.839
my stuff, Kevin would probably be dead today. I'm not

498
00:30:54.920 --> 00:30:56.960
bragging on that. It's just a matter of fact. It's

499
00:30:57.240 --> 00:31:00.319
the bonds I tied him up with that he brokeen

500
00:31:00.440 --> 00:31:06.359
so meant and maybe the same way with same with Katherine.

501
00:31:06.480 --> 00:31:08.519
It was that got out of got out of hand,

502
00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:09.519
all right.

503
00:31:09.559 --> 00:31:12.599
Now, you indicated that you believe you had Kevin tye

504
00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:15.279
Catherine up. You can tell me what happened then.

505
00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:19.599
Okay, I moved U well after I really can't remember

506
00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:22.319
judge whether I had her tie him up or she

507
00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:25.079
tied him up, but anyway, I moved. Basically, I moved

508
00:31:25.079 --> 00:31:28.880
her to another bedroom and he was already secure there

509
00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:32.759
by the bit tied his feet to the bedpost with

510
00:31:32.920 --> 00:31:36.519
one bedpost that he couldn't run, kind of tied her

511
00:31:36.920 --> 00:31:39.119
in the other bedroom. And then it came back to

512
00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:41.759
strangled him, and at that time we had a fight.

513
00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:44.519
Were you armed with a handgun at that time?

514
00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:44.680
Oh?

515
00:31:44.759 --> 00:31:47.640
Yes, I had a handgun. What happened when I actually

516
00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:53.319
had two handguns? Well, when I started strangling, either the

517
00:31:53.480 --> 00:31:56.119
garran broke or he broke his bonds, and he jumped

518
00:31:56.160 --> 00:31:59.519
up her quick leg I pulled my gun and quickly

519
00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:02.480
shot it hit him in the head. He fell over.

520
00:32:03.279 --> 00:32:05.079
I could see the blood, and as far as I

521
00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:07.759
sarned it, you know, I thought he was down and

522
00:32:08.359 --> 00:32:14.319
was out, and then left and started to strangle Catherine.

523
00:32:15.640 --> 00:32:18.480
And then we started fighting, because bonds were very good,

524
00:32:18.880 --> 00:32:23.559
and so after forth we fought you and Catherine. Yeah,

525
00:32:23.559 --> 00:32:26.359
we fought, and I got the best of her, and

526
00:32:26.400 --> 00:32:28.039
I thought she was going down, and then I could

527
00:32:28.079 --> 00:32:30.720
hear some movement in the other room. So I went

528
00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:35.319
back and Kevin. No, no, I thought she was going down,

529
00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:37.960
and I went back to the other bedroom where Kevin

530
00:32:38.079 --> 00:32:40.000
was at and I tried to re strangle him at

531
00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:44.960
that time, and he jumped up and we fought, and

532
00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:47.240
and he about at that time about shot me because

533
00:32:47.240 --> 00:32:49.759
he got the other my pistol that was in my shoulder.

534
00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:55.000
I had my magnum in my shoulder. So do you

535
00:32:55.039 --> 00:32:57.160
having a shoulder hold, Yes, And I had a magnum

536
00:32:57.160 --> 00:32:59.000
of a shoulder holster. The other one was the twenty two,

537
00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:03.839
and we fought at that point time and I thought

538
00:33:03.839 --> 00:33:05.480
it was going to go off. I jammed the gun,

539
00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:09.200
stuck my finger in the in there, jammed it, and

540
00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:11.440
I think he thought that was the only guy I had,

541
00:33:11.440 --> 00:33:14.359
because once I either Betty's finger or hit him or

542
00:33:14.359 --> 00:33:16.279
something got away. And I used the twenty two and

543
00:33:16.279 --> 00:33:18.400
shot him one more time, and I thought he was

544
00:33:18.440 --> 00:33:19.599
down for good at that time.

545
00:33:19.799 --> 00:33:21.400
All right, so you shot him a second time?

546
00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:21.880
Yes, sir?

547
00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:24.440
What happened? Then I went back to.

548
00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:33.519
Finished the job on Catherine and she was fighting, and

549
00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:35.799
at that point in time I've been fighting her. I

550
00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:38.200
just and then I heard some I don't know whether

551
00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:42.759
I was basically lose some control. The strangulation wasn't working

552
00:33:42.759 --> 00:33:45.440
on her, and I used a knife on her.

553
00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:49.359
You say you used a knife on her? What did

554
00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:50.240
you do with the knie?

555
00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:53.519
I stabbed her? She said, you stabled two or three

556
00:33:53.559 --> 00:33:56.680
times either here or here, maybe two back here in

557
00:33:56.720 --> 00:33:59.359
one here or maybe just two times, Bagger, You were

558
00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:01.920
pointed to your lower back and your Yeah, underneath the

559
00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:04.880
ribs and your lower after them and underneath the ribs

560
00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:06.599
up unfeath the ribs.

561
00:34:06.920 --> 00:34:08.639
So after you stabbed or what happened?

562
00:34:09.400 --> 00:34:15.079
Uh? Actually, I think at that point in time, well,

563
00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:17.480
it's a total mess because I didn't have control on it.

564
00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:23.079
She was bleeding, she went down. I think I just

565
00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:25.599
went back to check on Kevin or at that basically

566
00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:27.840
the same time I heard him escape. It could be

567
00:34:28.119 --> 00:34:29.800
one of the two. But all of a sudden, the

568
00:34:29.800 --> 00:34:32.079
front door of the house was opened and he was gone.

569
00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:34.880
And oh, I tell you what I thought. I thought

570
00:34:34.920 --> 00:34:36.360
the police were coming at that time. I heard the

571
00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:39.679
door open. I thought that's it, and I stepped out

572
00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:42.039
there and me I could see him running down the street.

573
00:34:42.119 --> 00:34:45.079
So I quickly cleaned up everything that I could and left.

574
00:34:45.599 --> 00:34:49.239
All right, No, mister raider, you indicated that Feo Tarrells

575
00:34:49.239 --> 00:34:50.840
you did not have a mask done. Did you have

576
00:34:50.880 --> 00:34:52.280
a mask done at the Biden?

577
00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:52.920
No?

578
00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:56.639
No, I did, all right? So what happened? Then?

579
00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:02.119
I tried? I had already had the keys to the uh,

580
00:35:02.679 --> 00:35:04.079
and I thought I had the right key to the

581
00:35:04.159 --> 00:35:06.239
right car. I ran after their car. I think it

582
00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:09.000
was a pick up up there, and I tried and

583
00:35:09.119 --> 00:35:12.039
did more, and at that point in time I was

584
00:35:12.199 --> 00:35:13.920
he was gone running down the street. I thought, yeah,

585
00:35:14.199 --> 00:35:16.559
I'm in trouble. So I tried. It didn't work, so

586
00:35:16.639 --> 00:35:19.199
I just took off run, went down, went east, and

587
00:35:19.199 --> 00:35:22.559
then worked back towards the WSU campus where my car

588
00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:22.920
was part.

589
00:35:23.840 --> 00:35:26.000
All right, so you had parked your car to Wichita

590
00:35:26.079 --> 00:35:30.840
State University campus. How far away were was the Bright resident?

591
00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:38.280
Oh? I parked? Was that thirteenth and there? Let's see

592
00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:41.679
there they were on thirteenth? Was it seventeenth? Yeah? I

593
00:35:41.760 --> 00:35:43.519
was fir I was just about one block south of

594
00:35:43.559 --> 00:35:46.519
seventeenth where the car was. There, there's a park there.

595
00:35:46.559 --> 00:35:48.840
I parked for that park, and then I walked to

596
00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:52.880
thirteenth to the Bright's residents. So I basically ran back.

597
00:35:53.440 --> 00:35:55.239
All right, So you were able to get to your

598
00:35:55.280 --> 00:35:59.239
car and get away. Yes, sir, let's turn to count

599
00:35:59.400 --> 00:36:03.320
number six in that count. They claim, on March seventeenth,

600
00:36:03.480 --> 00:36:07.960
nineteen seventy seventh, in Cedric County, Kansas, that you unlawfully

601
00:36:08.039 --> 00:36:13.800
killed Shirley by Anne maliciously, willfully, deliberately, and with premeditation

602
00:36:13.880 --> 00:36:17.760
by strangulation, inflicting injuries from which she did die on

603
00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:21.559
March seventeenth, nineteen seventy seventh. Can you tell me what

604
00:36:21.639 --> 00:36:22.239
he did on that?

605
00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:28.320
Though? As before, ran was a actually on that one,

606
00:36:28.679 --> 00:36:33.360
she was completely random. There was actually someone cross from

607
00:36:33.519 --> 00:36:38.119
Dylan's was a potential target. It was called Project Green.

608
00:36:38.199 --> 00:36:40.480
I think I had project numbers and assigned with it.

609
00:36:41.039 --> 00:36:44.599
And the fickle day, I drove to Dylan's, parked in

610
00:36:44.639 --> 00:36:47.920
the parking lot, watched this particular residence, and then got

611
00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:51.119
out of the car and walked over to it's probably

612
00:36:51.159 --> 00:36:53.440
the police support the address. I don't remember the dress

613
00:36:53.480 --> 00:36:57.559
now knocked nobody answered it, so I was all teed up,

614
00:36:57.599 --> 00:37:00.639
So I just started going through the I've been into

615
00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:03.599
the neighborhood before. I kind of knew a little little

616
00:37:03.639 --> 00:37:06.639
the layout of the neighborhood. I've been through the back alleys,

617
00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:11.920
knew for some certain people lived. While I was walking

618
00:37:11.960 --> 00:37:16.920
down Hydraulic, I met a young one and asked him

619
00:37:16.920 --> 00:37:20.679
if I decent pictures, kind of as a russ I

620
00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:23.519
guess or roost as you call it, and how to

621
00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:26.880
feel it out. And saw where he went. And I

622
00:37:26.920 --> 00:37:29.199
went to another address and knocked in the door. Nobody

623
00:37:29.239 --> 00:37:31.679
opened the door, so I just noticed where he went

624
00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:33.840
and went to that house and we went from there.

625
00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:39.159
Now you call these projects, uh, with these sexual fantasies.

626
00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:43.920
Also potential hits in my world, that's what I called them,

627
00:37:44.159 --> 00:37:48.079
all right, projects hits? All right?

628
00:37:48.119 --> 00:37:51.039
And why did you have these potential hits? Was this

629
00:37:51.280 --> 00:37:52.800
ratify some sexual interest?

630
00:37:53.280 --> 00:37:56.440
Yes, sir, I had there. I had a lot of them.

631
00:37:56.480 --> 00:37:59.199
So it's just one didn't work out and just moved

632
00:37:59.199 --> 00:37:59.920
to another one.

633
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:02.880
All right, So as I'm to understand it, Then on

634
00:38:02.920 --> 00:38:05.559
the seventeenth of March nineteen seventy seven, you saw this

635
00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:09.440
little boy go into a residence, and you tried another residence.

636
00:38:09.800 --> 00:38:10.639
Someone was there.

637
00:38:10.760 --> 00:38:12.960
You tried another residence, no one was there. So I

638
00:38:13.000 --> 00:38:14.000
went to the residence but the.

639
00:38:14.039 --> 00:38:16.320
Little boy and I watched. I watched where he went.

640
00:38:16.880 --> 00:38:19.599
What happened then after I tried this one of residence

641
00:38:19.639 --> 00:38:21.360
and when came the door, I went to this house

642
00:38:21.400 --> 00:38:24.440
where he went in, knocked in the door and told

643
00:38:24.480 --> 00:38:27.159
him I was a private detective, showed him a picture

644
00:38:27.159 --> 00:38:28.960
that I had just showed the boy and asked them

645
00:38:28.960 --> 00:38:31.559
if they could id the picture. And at that time

646
00:38:31.599 --> 00:38:33.920
I had the gun here, and I just kind of

647
00:38:33.920 --> 00:38:36.960
forced myself in. I just walked in, just opened the door,

648
00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:39.760
walked in and then pulled a pistol. What gun?

649
00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:44.960
What pistol three fifty seven magnum So you only had

650
00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:45.480
one gun?

651
00:38:46.079 --> 00:38:52.400
Yes, sir? What happened? Then? I told missus An that

652
00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:56.880
I had a problem with sexual fantasies that was going

653
00:38:56.960 --> 00:39:00.800
to tie her up, and that I might have to

654
00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:04.760
tie the kids up and she would cooperate with us,

655
00:39:05.079 --> 00:39:08.159
cooperate with me. At that time, we went back. She

656
00:39:08.239 --> 00:39:10.639
was extremely nervous. I think she even smoked a cigarette,

657
00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:14.039
and we went back to one of the back back

658
00:39:14.079 --> 00:39:16.719
areas the porch. Explained to her that I had done

659
00:39:16.760 --> 00:39:20.679
this before, and yeah, I think she was at that

660
00:39:20.679 --> 00:39:22.159
point in time. I think she was sick because she

661
00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:24.159
had a night grobe on, and I think I remember

662
00:39:24.400 --> 00:39:26.599
she was she had been sick, and I think she

663
00:39:26.639 --> 00:39:28.480
came out of the bedroom when I went to the house.

664
00:39:29.199 --> 00:39:32.679
So anyway, we went back to her bedroom and I

665
00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:35.159
proceeded to tie the kids up, and they started crying

666
00:39:35.199 --> 00:39:37.639
and got real upset. So I said, oh, this is

667
00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:39.719
not going to work, so we moved them to the bathroom.

668
00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:42.800
She helped me, and then I tied the door shut.

669
00:39:42.840 --> 00:39:46.199
We put some toys and blankets and odds and ins

670
00:39:46.199 --> 00:39:48.079
and there for the kids, making the most comfortable as

671
00:39:48.119 --> 00:39:51.320
it could. Tied the We tied one of the bathroom

672
00:39:51.320 --> 00:39:53.320
door shuts so they couldn't open it, and we shoved

673
00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:55.079
She went back and helped me shove the bed up

674
00:39:55.840 --> 00:39:59.320
against the other bathroom door, and then I proceeded to

675
00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:04.480
tie her up. She got sick, threw up, got her

676
00:40:04.519 --> 00:40:07.360
glass of water, comforted her a little bit, and then

677
00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:09.280
they went had and tied her up, and then uh,

678
00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:12.039
put a bag overhead and strangled her?

679
00:40:12.679 --> 00:40:14.480
All right, it was just a plastic bag.

680
00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:17.599
Also, yes, sir, I think it was, but I could

681
00:40:17.599 --> 00:40:20.880
be wrong in that it was something. I'm sure it

682
00:40:20.920 --> 00:40:21.599
was plastic bag.

683
00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:23.719
Yeah, you say you put a bag over her head

684
00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:25.920
and strangle What did you strangle her with?

685
00:40:26.559 --> 00:40:28.960
I actually had think on that. I had tied tight

686
00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:31.239
her legs to the bedpost and worked up with the

687
00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:32.760
rope all the way up, and then what I had

688
00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:34.599
left over I looked over her.

689
00:40:34.519 --> 00:40:37.800
Natright, So you used this rope to strangle?

690
00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:39.760
Yes, I think I think of the same one that

691
00:40:39.760 --> 00:40:43.320
I tied her body with. What happened then, well, the

692
00:40:43.880 --> 00:40:47.840
kids were really banging on the door, holler screaming and uh.

693
00:40:48.639 --> 00:40:51.559
And then the telephone rang and they had talked about

694
00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:53.400
earlier that the neighbors going to check on him. So

695
00:40:53.440 --> 00:40:55.639
I cleaned everything up real quick like and got out

696
00:40:55.679 --> 00:40:57.559
of there, left and went back into my car.

697
00:40:58.000 --> 00:41:00.480
When you say you cleaned everything, well, I mean my stuff.

698
00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:04.000
I had a briefcase whatever I have laid around the ropes,

699
00:41:04.119 --> 00:41:07.400
tape cords, so threw that in there, you know, whatever

700
00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:09.800
you know that I had been I brought in the house.

701
00:41:10.320 --> 00:41:12.599
Had you brought that to the Bright residents?

702
00:41:12.679 --> 00:41:16.840
Also? Now there are some there. I think there was

703
00:41:16.840 --> 00:41:19.639
some basic stuff, but I don't remember bringing total stuff

704
00:41:19.679 --> 00:41:22.480
like I did to some of the others. Is this

705
00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:23.960
a fit that you had prepared?

706
00:41:24.559 --> 00:41:24.760
Yeah?

707
00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:26.559
Yes, I called my good kid.

708
00:41:28.360 --> 00:41:33.800
All right, sir, you left the Bayan Residents and had

709
00:41:33.840 --> 00:41:35.119
you parked your vehicle near.

710
00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:37.119
There and still in the same parking out there? Villains

711
00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:45.159
at Hydraulic and what is that Ferry Lincoln, Lincoln, Lincoln

712
00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:47.800
and Hydraulic? All right?

713
00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:50.239
In count seven it is claimed that on the eighth

714
00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:54.000
day of December nineteen seventy seven, Cedric County, Kansas, that

715
00:41:54.079 --> 00:41:56.400
you and lawful killed a human being, that being Nasty

716
00:41:56.480 --> 00:42:03.880
Foss relaciously, willfully, deliberately, and with premeditation like strangulation, inflicting

717
00:42:04.039 --> 00:42:06.800
entries from which the said ninety Fox did die on

718
00:42:06.880 --> 00:42:10.639
December eighth, nineteen seventy seven. Can you tell me what

719
00:42:10.679 --> 00:42:11.599
you did on that day?

720
00:42:12.519 --> 00:42:16.519
Here in cric Nancy Fox was another one of the projects.

721
00:42:17.639 --> 00:42:21.639
When I was trolling the area, I noticed her going

722
00:42:21.679 --> 00:42:27.199
the house one night sometimes in anyway put her down

723
00:42:27.239 --> 00:42:28.199
a potential victim.

724
00:42:29.239 --> 00:42:31.559
Let me ask you one thing, mister Rader. You've used

725
00:42:31.599 --> 00:42:33.920
that term when you were patrolling the area. What do

726
00:42:33.960 --> 00:42:34.679
you mean by that?

727
00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:40.920
It's called stocking or trolling, So you were not working

728
00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:45.679
in any form or fashion you well, yeah, if you

729
00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:47.800
read much about serial killers, they go through what they

730
00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:51.280
call the different phases. That's one of the phases they

731
00:42:51.280 --> 00:42:53.920
go through as a as a trolling stage. You're basically

732
00:42:53.920 --> 00:42:56.119
if you're looking for a victim at that time, and

733
00:42:56.159 --> 00:42:59.360
that you could be trolling for months or years. But

734
00:42:59.400 --> 00:43:01.039
once you lock in on a certain person, that you

735
00:43:01.079 --> 00:43:03.159
become stocking. And that might be several of them, but

736
00:43:03.280 --> 00:43:06.719
you really how me in on that person, they basically

737
00:43:06.719 --> 00:43:10.599
become the that's that's the victim for that that's what

738
00:43:10.639 --> 00:43:18.519
you want to troll and sort of team to control. Yes,

739
00:43:19.719 --> 00:43:22.159
all right, No, no, I wasn't working, sir, alright, No,

740
00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:26.199
this was no this was off off off my hours.

741
00:43:26.840 --> 00:43:32.079
All right, So you basically uh identified Nancy Fox as

742
00:43:32.119 --> 00:43:34.039
one of your projects.

743
00:43:34.079 --> 00:43:34.840
What happened then?

744
00:43:35.719 --> 00:43:35.960
Uh?

745
00:43:36.159 --> 00:43:39.639
At first, Uh, she was spotted, and then I did

746
00:43:39.679 --> 00:43:42.079
a little homework. I dropped. I wants to check the

747
00:43:42.159 --> 00:43:46.000
mailbox to see what her name was, found out where

748
00:43:46.039 --> 00:43:51.039
she worked. Uh, we'll stop by there once, Hillsburg. It

749
00:43:51.239 --> 00:43:53.559
kind of sized her up. I the more I knew

750
00:43:53.559 --> 00:43:56.119
about a person, the more I felt comfortable with it.

751
00:43:56.480 --> 00:43:58.559
So I did that a couple of times, and then

752
00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:01.920
I just selected tonight, which was a thick pore night,

753
00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:05.440
to try it. And it worked outright.

754
00:44:05.719 --> 00:44:07.840
Can you tell me what you did on the night

755
00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:10.480
of December eighth, nineteen seventy seven.

756
00:44:10.320 --> 00:44:12.679
About two or three blocks away a park mcclar and

757
00:44:12.760 --> 00:44:16.400
walked to that residence. The knocked at the door first

758
00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:18.320
and make sure to see if anybody's in there, because

759
00:44:18.599 --> 00:44:21.239
I knew she arrived home at a particular time from

760
00:44:21.239 --> 00:44:24.320
where she worked. Nobody answered the door, so I went

761
00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:26.960
around the back of the house, cut the phone lines.

762
00:44:27.079 --> 00:44:30.280
I could tell that there wasn't anybody in the north apartment,

763
00:44:31.440 --> 00:44:34.199
broke in and waited for her to come home in

764
00:44:34.239 --> 00:44:38.000
the kitchen. All right, did she come home? Yes, she did.

765
00:44:38.360 --> 00:44:38.880
What appen?

766
00:44:39.519 --> 00:44:43.440
I confronted her, told her there I was, I had

767
00:44:43.480 --> 00:44:46.119
a problem, sexual problem that I would have to tire

768
00:44:46.199 --> 00:44:53.559
up and have sex with her. She was a little upset.

769
00:44:53.880 --> 00:44:58.239
We talked for a while. She smoked a cigarette. While

770
00:44:58.280 --> 00:45:01.880
we smoked cigarette, I went with her purse identifying some stuff,

771
00:45:02.519 --> 00:45:05.119
and she finally said, well, let's get this over well,

772
00:45:05.159 --> 00:45:07.519
so I go call the police. I said okay, and

773
00:45:07.559 --> 00:45:09.519
she said, can I go to the bathroom? I said yes.

774
00:45:10.519 --> 00:45:13.559
She went to the bathroom and came and I told

775
00:45:13.599 --> 00:45:15.079
her when she came out to make sure that she

776
00:45:15.159 --> 00:45:20.480
was undressed. And when she came out, I handcuffed her.

777
00:45:21.000 --> 00:45:23.719
And I really remember.

778
00:45:24.719 --> 00:45:27.000
You handcuffed her. You had a pair of handcuffs, Yes, sir,

779
00:45:29.159 --> 00:45:29.679
what happened?

780
00:45:29.800 --> 00:45:31.559
Well, well, I had her handcuffed her, had a lay

781
00:45:31.559 --> 00:45:35.039
on the bed, and then I tied her feet and uh,

782
00:45:35.519 --> 00:45:39.880
then I was also undressed to a certain degree. And

783
00:45:39.920 --> 00:45:43.880
then I got on top of her and reached took

784
00:45:44.360 --> 00:45:46.800
either either her feet were tired or not tied anyway,

785
00:45:46.840 --> 00:45:48.280
I took. I think I had a belt. I took

786
00:45:48.280 --> 00:45:50.239
the belt and then strangled her with a belt at

787
00:45:50.239 --> 00:45:50.760
that time.

788
00:45:51.400 --> 00:45:55.480
All right, all right, after you get strangled or what

789
00:45:55.639 --> 00:45:56.159
happened then?

790
00:45:56.239 --> 00:45:58.880
Okay? Uh? After I strangled her the belt, I took

791
00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:01.760
the belt off and tied that with panty hose real tight.

792
00:46:02.840 --> 00:46:08.199
Removed the handcuffs and tied those with with panty hose.

793
00:46:08.599 --> 00:46:11.320
I can't remember the colors right now. I think I

794
00:46:11.400 --> 00:46:14.639
maybe retighter feet, if they had all they were probably tired.

795
00:46:14.639 --> 00:46:19.000
Her feet were. Uh, and in that time masturbated, sir?

796
00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:23.119
All right, had you had sexual relations with her?

797
00:46:23.199 --> 00:46:25.199
No? Well no, no, I told her I was, but

798
00:46:25.239 --> 00:46:25.599
I did not.

799
00:46:26.880 --> 00:46:28.719
So you masturbated? Then what did you do?

800
00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:32.960
Uh? Dressed and then went through the house and took

801
00:46:32.960 --> 00:46:35.039
some of her personal items and kind of cleaned the

802
00:46:35.039 --> 00:46:38.599
house up with through it and checked everything and then left.

803
00:46:40.079 --> 00:46:46.119
All right, do you have as the established was in

804
00:46:46.119 --> 00:46:52.480
the Sebec County, I don't know who was acted well

805
00:46:52.519 --> 00:46:56.119
purposely said bove this it's any subject guy. Do you

806
00:46:56.159 --> 00:46:59.280
remember the advissment delated? Do you know the Idyes?

807
00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:10.760
Those thoughts is a box nine nine thirteen or nine

808
00:47:10.920 --> 00:47:13.440
nine o three. I sure don't I know it was

809
00:47:13.480 --> 00:47:16.960
on Persian, that's all I don't which it was nine

810
00:47:17.039 --> 00:47:20.639
is nine something, sir. I don't know the other digits and.

811
00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:25.119
The address, as I said, is really not important as

812
00:47:25.159 --> 00:47:28.639
long as you remember it happened here in Wichita, Sedary County. Yes,

813
00:47:29.880 --> 00:47:33.480
all right, sir, Let's turn to count eight. In Count eight,

814
00:47:33.559 --> 00:47:36.840
it is claim in honor about the twenty seventh day

815
00:47:36.880 --> 00:47:39.840
is April nineteen eighty five to the twenty eighth day

816
00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:43.679
of April nineteen eighty five and Cedric County, Canvas, it

817
00:47:43.760 --> 00:47:50.280
is claimed that you unlawfully killed a human being, Marine Hedge, maliciously, willfully, deliberately,

818
00:47:50.639 --> 00:47:55.320
and with premeditation by strangulation, inflicting injuries from which Marine

819
00:47:55.320 --> 00:47:58.480
Hedge did die on April twenty seventh, nineteen eighty five.

820
00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:00.880
Can you tell me what A heard on that then?

821
00:48:02.599 --> 00:48:06.360
Well, actually, kind of like the others, she was chosen

822
00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:11.599
a way through the different phases stocking phase and said

823
00:48:11.679 --> 00:48:13.920
she who lived down the street from me, I could

824
00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:18.599
watch coming and going quite easily. On that particular day,

825
00:48:18.800 --> 00:48:26.880
I had other commitment, came back from that commitment, parked

826
00:48:26.880 --> 00:48:34.159
my car over at Woodlawn and twenty first Street, at

827
00:48:34.159 --> 00:48:38.719
bowling alley there at that time. Before that, I dressed

828
00:48:38.760 --> 00:48:41.039
until I had some other clothes, and I changed clothes

829
00:48:41.079 --> 00:48:44.559
and went to the bowling alley, went in there the

830
00:48:44.559 --> 00:48:47.960
precinense of bowling. Called a taxi. Had a taxi take

831
00:48:48.039 --> 00:48:50.679
me out to park City. I had my kid with

832
00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:53.840
me as a bowling bag. That was park City in

833
00:48:53.920 --> 00:48:57.280
Sedgwick County. All right, we have the taxi take you

834
00:48:57.320 --> 00:49:00.079
to park City. What happened then there? I asked. I

835
00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:03.480
pretended that I was a little drunk. I just took

836
00:49:03.599 --> 00:49:05.880
I just took some beer and worshed it around my mouth.

837
00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:08.039
And that guy could probably smell the alcohol on me.

838
00:49:08.199 --> 00:49:09.800
I asked, told him to let me out so I

839
00:49:09.840 --> 00:49:11.840
could get some fresh air. And I walked from where

840
00:49:11.840 --> 00:49:15.360
the taxi let me off over took her house? Right

841
00:49:15.400 --> 00:49:16.280
where does she live?

842
00:49:17.559 --> 00:49:25.199
Sixty two forty two fifty four sixty two fifty four

843
00:49:25.400 --> 00:49:28.880
sixty two fifty four, Well north Independence.

844
00:49:29.480 --> 00:49:32.280
All right, when you walk over there? What happened next?

845
00:49:33.199 --> 00:49:36.599
Well, as before, I was willing to have a sexual fantasy,

846
00:49:36.639 --> 00:49:40.440
so I brought my hit kit and lo and behold

847
00:49:40.519 --> 00:49:43.159
her car was there. I thought, Gee, she's not supposed

848
00:49:43.159 --> 00:49:46.639
to be home, so I very carefully snuck into the house,

849
00:49:46.760 --> 00:49:49.559
kind of like a cat burglar, and after checking the house,

850
00:49:49.760 --> 00:49:54.400
she wasn't there. So about that time the doors rattled,

851
00:49:54.920 --> 00:49:58.199
so I went back to one of the bedrooms and

852
00:49:58.280 --> 00:50:01.000
hid back there in one of the bedrooms. She came

853
00:50:01.000 --> 00:50:03.800
in with a male visitor. They were there for maybe

854
00:50:03.800 --> 00:50:08.800
an hour or so. He left. I waited till three

855
00:50:08.840 --> 00:50:13.280
hours in the morning, and then proceeded to sneak into her

856
00:50:13.320 --> 00:50:16.239
bedroom and flip the lights on what looked like, I

857
00:50:16.280 --> 00:50:18.079
think the bathroom lights. I just studied want to flip

858
00:50:18.119 --> 00:50:21.239
her lights on, and then she screamed, and I jumped

859
00:50:21.280 --> 00:50:22.719
on the bed and strangled her manually.

860
00:50:23.599 --> 00:50:27.440
All right, now, were you wearing any kind of disguise

861
00:50:27.559 --> 00:50:28.559
or mask at this time?

862
00:50:28.760 --> 00:50:29.239
No?

863
00:50:29.239 --> 00:50:32.239
No, you indicated this woman lived down the street from you.

864
00:50:32.320 --> 00:50:36.360
Did she know you? Casually we'd walk by and wave.

865
00:50:36.840 --> 00:50:38.920
She she liked to work in her yard as well

866
00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:40.400
as I like to work. And it's just a neighborly

867
00:50:40.559 --> 00:50:43.239
type thing. It wasn't anything personal. I mean, just a

868
00:50:43.280 --> 00:50:46.440
neighbor all right. So she was in her bed when

869
00:50:46.440 --> 00:50:47.960
you turn on the lights in the backroom out of

870
00:50:47.960 --> 00:50:50.159
the bathroom. Yeah, this is so I get some light

871
00:50:50.199 --> 00:50:52.840
in there. What did you do then, No, I manually

872
00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:55.719
strangled her when she started the scream. So you used

873
00:50:55.760 --> 00:50:58.559
your hands, yes, sir, and you strangled her. Did she die?

874
00:50:58.880 --> 00:51:00.239
Yes? All right?

875
00:51:00.280 --> 00:51:04.039
What did you do that after that? Since I was

876
00:51:04.079 --> 00:51:08.920
in the sexual fantasy, I went ahead and stripped her

877
00:51:09.719 --> 00:51:12.039
and probably went ahead and I'm not sure if I

878
00:51:12.079 --> 00:51:14.840
tied her up at that point in time, But anyway,

879
00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:16.960
she was nude, and I put her on a blanket,

880
00:51:17.599 --> 00:51:21.079
went through herse some personal items in the house, figured

881
00:51:21.079 --> 00:51:22.599
out how I was going to get her out of there.

882
00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:28.920
Eventually moved her to the trunk of the car. I

883
00:51:29.039 --> 00:51:33.159
took the car over to Christ Lutheran Church. This is

884
00:51:33.199 --> 00:51:36.920
with the older church, and I had to fix some

885
00:51:36.960 --> 00:51:39.840
pictures of her. All right.

886
00:51:39.960 --> 00:51:42.239
You took some photographs or a kind of camera into

887
00:51:42.280 --> 00:51:47.519
huge poor lord. Did you keep those photographs? Yes?

888
00:51:47.559 --> 00:51:49.679
The police probably have them.

889
00:51:49.000 --> 00:51:50.239
All right?

890
00:51:50.280 --> 00:51:54.719
What happened then? That was it? That went? I took,

891
00:51:55.159 --> 00:51:57.320
she went through, I tied it. She was already dead.

892
00:51:57.400 --> 00:51:59.960
So I took the pictures of her in different forms

893
00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:04.280
bondage and that's probably one got me in trouble with

894
00:52:04.360 --> 00:52:07.880
the bondage thing. So anyway, that's the probably the the

895
00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:11.320
main thing. But anyway, after that, I moved her back

896
00:52:11.320 --> 00:52:14.119
out to the car and then we went east on

897
00:52:14.280 --> 00:52:14.840
fifty third.

898
00:52:16.199 --> 00:52:19.000
All right, what occurred then, sir? What happened then?

899
00:52:19.159 --> 00:52:21.760
Oh? Trying to find a place to hide her, hide

900
00:52:21.760 --> 00:52:23.039
the body.

901
00:52:23.199 --> 00:52:25.280
Did you find a place? Yes, yes it did.

902
00:52:27.760 --> 00:52:29.719
I couldn't tell you without looking at map, but it

903
00:52:29.760 --> 00:52:35.159
was on fifty third, Queen Breenwich. Maybe maybe what's what's

904
00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:39.119
the other? When Greenwich she brought web, Queen, I think

905
00:52:39.119 --> 00:52:42.840
between web and web hand Greenwich. I found a ditch,

906
00:52:43.159 --> 00:52:45.320
a low place on the north side of the road

907
00:52:45.880 --> 00:52:48.679
and hit her there. I say, you hit her there? Well,

908
00:52:48.719 --> 00:52:51.199
there were some there were some trees, some brush, and

909
00:52:51.239 --> 00:52:52.800
I laid that over the top of her body.

910
00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:54.840
All right, So you removed the body from the car,

911
00:52:55.079 --> 00:52:57.079
put her in the ditch, and then laid some some

912
00:52:57.159 --> 00:53:01.039
brush over the box, yes, sir, All right, sir. In

913
00:53:01.119 --> 00:53:04.480
count nine it is claimed on her, about the sixteenth

914
00:53:04.559 --> 00:53:08.440
day of September nineteen eighty six, in Sedry County, Kansas,

915
00:53:08.559 --> 00:53:15.159
that you unlawfully kill the human being Vicky weggerly, maliciously, willfully, deliberately,

916
00:53:15.679 --> 00:53:20.599
and with premeditation, by strangulation, inflicting injuries, from which she said,

917
00:53:20.679 --> 00:53:25.719
Vicky Weggerley did die on September sixteenth, nineteen eighty six.

918
00:53:26.400 --> 00:53:28.320
Can you tell me what you did here in Sedgwy

919
00:53:28.360 --> 00:53:30.360
County on that day that makes you believe you are

920
00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:32.800
guilty again?

921
00:53:33.079 --> 00:53:36.519
Vicky Begarly was another potential victim. I went through those

922
00:53:36.559 --> 00:53:39.440
different phases, locked in on her as I would call it,

923
00:53:39.920 --> 00:53:43.880
and decided that I would try that date. I used

924
00:53:43.880 --> 00:53:46.639
to Russ as a telephone repairman to get in their

925
00:53:46.679 --> 00:53:51.639
house Joe there in my own personal car around lunchtime,

926
00:53:51.880 --> 00:53:55.760
moving a lunch hower approximately that time, observelier in the

927
00:53:55.760 --> 00:54:00.320
morning and that. But I actually went somewhere out and

928
00:54:00.440 --> 00:54:04.920
changed change my clothes, but what I called my gift

929
00:54:05.000 --> 00:54:10.119
clothes and closed close basically different you know, things that

930
00:54:10.159 --> 00:54:12.159
I need to get rid of later, not the same

931
00:54:12.239 --> 00:54:15.559
kind of clothes that I had on I I don't

932
00:54:15.559 --> 00:54:18.760
want other better word use it crime clothes or get closed.

933
00:54:18.840 --> 00:54:23.039
I just called it gift close. Uh. Anyway, I walked

934
00:54:23.079 --> 00:54:27.400
from a car as a telephone repairman. As I walked there,

935
00:54:27.719 --> 00:54:31.000
down the telephone helmet, I had a briefcase. Went to

936
00:54:31.079 --> 00:54:33.239
one other address just to kind of size up the house.

937
00:54:33.280 --> 00:54:34.760
I'd walked by it a couple of times, but I

938
00:54:34.800 --> 00:54:37.280
wanted to check out a little bit more. As I

939
00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:41.119
approached it, I could hear a pianel sound and went

940
00:54:41.159 --> 00:54:42.920
to this other door, knocked on him and told him

941
00:54:42.920 --> 00:54:45.480
I was Then we were recently working on telephone repairs

942
00:54:45.519 --> 00:54:49.159
in the area, and then one took her, went to

943
00:54:49.320 --> 00:54:50.800
her and knocked on the door and asked her if

944
00:54:50.840 --> 00:54:53.880
I come chef he telephone line Society. Did she allow

945
00:54:53.920 --> 00:54:54.119
you in?

946
00:54:54.320 --> 00:54:54.480
Yes?

947
00:54:54.559 --> 00:54:57.400
She did? What happened? Then I went over and I

948
00:54:57.440 --> 00:55:00.559
found out where the telephone was simulated that checking the

949
00:55:00.800 --> 00:55:05.880
telephone I had to make believe instrument. And after she

950
00:55:06.000 --> 00:55:08.840
was looking away, I drew a pistol letter and asked

951
00:55:08.840 --> 00:55:10.280
her if she go back to the bedroom with me.

952
00:55:11.000 --> 00:55:13.639
This is saying three fifty seven Magnau know this.

953
00:55:13.639 --> 00:55:14.559
This was a different one.

954
00:55:17.039 --> 00:55:19.119
Ar You asked her to go back to the bedroom

955
00:55:19.119 --> 00:55:21.199
with you have to draw on a pistol off, Yes, sir.

956
00:55:21.440 --> 00:55:22.239
What happened then?

957
00:55:22.760 --> 00:55:24.360
Uh? I told her we went back to the bedroom

958
00:55:24.360 --> 00:55:25.679
of toil. I was gonna have to tire her up.

959
00:55:26.480 --> 00:55:31.840
She was very upset, and I think I used the

960
00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:36.119
material that was in And that's another thing. I'm not sure,

961
00:55:36.239 --> 00:55:38.119
but I think I used the material that they had

962
00:55:38.159 --> 00:55:41.920
in their bedroom, and after I tied her hands, she

963
00:55:42.000 --> 00:55:45.079
broke that and we started fighting. And we fought quite

964
00:55:45.079 --> 00:55:46.280
a bit back and forth.

965
00:55:46.760 --> 00:55:48.440
All right, she was physically fighting you.

966
00:55:48.559 --> 00:55:49.400
Oh, yes, yes, sir.

967
00:55:49.760 --> 00:55:50.320
What happened?

968
00:55:50.320 --> 00:55:52.599
Then uh finally got the hand on her and got

969
00:55:52.599 --> 00:55:55.159
a nylon socked and start strangling.

970
00:55:56.239 --> 00:55:59.800
So you wrapped us stalking around her neck? Yes, what happened.

971
00:55:59.800 --> 00:56:02.840
Then I finally gained the gained on her and and

972
00:56:03.039 --> 00:56:05.119
put her down, and I thought she was dead. Apparently

973
00:56:05.239 --> 00:56:08.719
she wasn't. So after after she was down and not

974
00:56:08.840 --> 00:56:12.280
moving anymore, I rearranged her clothes a little bit and

975
00:56:12.320 --> 00:56:16.039
took some photos. I think three of them, I remember,

976
00:56:17.159 --> 00:56:20.320
And then uh, after that, there was a lot of commotion.

977
00:56:20.880 --> 00:56:23.719
She had mentioned some about her husband coming home. Uh,

978
00:56:23.840 --> 00:56:25.599
So I got out of there pretty quick. The dogs

979
00:56:25.599 --> 00:56:27.960
were raising a lot of cane in the back. The

980
00:56:28.039 --> 00:56:29.880
doors and the windows were all open to the house,

981
00:56:30.000 --> 00:56:32.079
a lot of noise when we were fighting, So I

982
00:56:32.159 --> 00:56:34.239
left pretty quickly after that, put every thing the briefcase

983
00:56:34.280 --> 00:56:37.000
and had her I'd already gone through her curse and

984
00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:39.519
got the keys to the car and used her car

985
00:56:39.599 --> 00:56:40.599
for my getaway car.

986
00:56:41.119 --> 00:56:43.079
All right, now, you indicate that you thought that she

987
00:56:43.280 --> 00:56:45.480
was dead, to you discover later that she was knocked dead.

988
00:56:45.639 --> 00:56:49.360
Yes, I guess the paramedics arrived and they tried to

989
00:56:49.360 --> 00:56:53.119
attempt to relieve her arriver, and that that failed at

990
00:56:53.159 --> 00:56:54.559
only that she died there or on the way to

991
00:56:54.559 --> 00:56:57.440
the hospital or at the hospital, I don't recollect.

992
00:56:57.440 --> 00:56:59.360
But she later found out that she did the as

993
00:56:59.400 --> 00:57:05.679
result of your strangulation. Yes, sir, let's turn to Count

994
00:57:05.760 --> 00:57:08.920
ten in that count has plaiming that on about the

995
00:57:09.000 --> 00:57:13.039
eighteenth day of January nineteen ninety one to the eighth

996
00:57:13.159 --> 00:57:17.199
nineteenth day January nineteen ninety one, in the County of Centric,

997
00:57:17.239 --> 00:57:20.519
State of Kansas, that you did then in their unlawfully

998
00:57:20.639 --> 00:57:26.400
kill human being, that being Dolorous E. Davis, maliciously, willfully, deliberately,

999
00:57:26.800 --> 00:57:31.440
and with premeditation by strangulation, inflicting injuries from which the

1000
00:57:31.519 --> 00:57:36.159
said Delores E. Davis did die on January nineteenth, nineteen

1001
00:57:36.239 --> 00:57:39.159
ninety one. Mister raider, Please tell me what you did

1002
00:57:39.199 --> 00:57:41.880
here in Cedric County, Kansas on that day that makes

1003
00:57:41.920 --> 00:57:42.800
you believe your guilt.

1004
00:57:43.760 --> 00:57:47.400
On that particular day, I had some commitments. I left those,

1005
00:57:48.440 --> 00:57:52.519
went to one place, changed my clothes, went to another place.

1006
00:57:53.679 --> 00:57:57.519
Park mccarr finally made arrangements on my hit kit my clothes,

1007
00:57:58.400 --> 00:58:03.679
and then walked to that Risks. After spending some time

1008
00:58:03.719 --> 00:58:07.760
at that residence, it was very cold at night, had

1009
00:58:08.119 --> 00:58:12.239
reservations about going in. They I had tasted the place before,

1010
00:58:12.280 --> 00:58:13.559
and I really can figure out how to get in,

1011
00:58:13.639 --> 00:58:16.679
and she was in the house. So I finally just

1012
00:58:17.000 --> 00:58:20.119
selected a hung free block and threw it through the

1013
00:58:20.119 --> 00:58:22.559
plate glass window in the east and came on in.

1014
00:58:23.000 --> 00:58:26.519
All right, where's this residence looking? It's on hillside, but

1015
00:58:26.559 --> 00:58:28.559
I couldn't give you a dress. I know it's probably

1016
00:58:28.719 --> 00:58:31.679
sixty one, probably sixty two something, oh sixty two.

1017
00:58:31.599 --> 00:58:35.920
Something north or south north north hill side. All right,

1018
00:58:35.960 --> 00:58:38.480
so you used a concrete block to break the window,

1019
00:58:38.840 --> 00:58:40.280
plate glass window, Patty, OK, do it?

1020
00:58:40.960 --> 00:58:45.360
What happened then? Noise? I just went in. She came

1021
00:58:45.400 --> 00:58:47.360
out of the bedroom and thought that a car had

1022
00:58:47.400 --> 00:58:50.000
hit her house, and I told her that I was

1023
00:58:50.400 --> 00:58:53.639
I used to the roofs of the being wanted. I

1024
00:58:53.800 --> 00:58:56.960
was on the run and eat food, car warmth, warm up,

1025
00:58:57.679 --> 00:59:02.320
and I asked her, handcuffed her and kind of talked

1026
00:59:02.320 --> 00:59:03.880
to her, told her that I would like to get

1027
00:59:03.880 --> 00:59:07.920
some food, get her teas her car and kind of

1028
00:59:08.360 --> 00:59:10.559
restis her, you know, walked talked with her a little

1029
00:59:10.559 --> 00:59:13.239
bit and calmed her down a little bit. And uh,

1030
00:59:14.199 --> 00:59:17.760
and then eventually I checked I think she was still handcuffed.

1031
00:59:17.800 --> 00:59:21.400
I uh went back and checked out where the car was.

1032
00:59:21.840 --> 00:59:25.320
Uh stimulated getting some food, odds and ins in the

1033
00:59:25.360 --> 00:59:27.760
house that I like, I was leaving, and then went

1034
00:59:27.800 --> 00:59:32.079
back and removed her handcuffs and then tied her up,

1035
00:59:33.119 --> 00:59:37.360
and then and then eventually strangled her. You say eventually

1036
00:59:37.360 --> 00:59:40.400
strangled her. Well, after I tied her up, I went

1037
00:59:40.440 --> 00:59:42.440
through some things in the room there and then and

1038
00:59:42.480 --> 00:59:46.239
then strangled her. You said you went through were you're

1039
00:59:46.239 --> 00:59:49.519
looking for something? What's a personal items? Yes, I took

1040
00:59:49.559 --> 00:59:52.280
some personal items from there. Did you take personal items

1041
00:59:52.320 --> 00:59:55.880
in every one of these incidents? Uh? I did on

1042
00:59:55.920 --> 01:00:01.719
the hedge. I don't remember anything of the Victy's place.

1043
01:00:03.400 --> 01:00:05.199
You have Cheryl's we got to watch in the radio.

1044
01:00:06.639 --> 01:00:10.920
I don't think I did anything brites uh Byan's No,

1045
01:00:11.079 --> 01:00:13.320
I don't pick some Fox. Yes, I picked some things

1046
01:00:13.320 --> 01:00:16.360
from Fox. It was hit and miss, all right, but

1047
01:00:16.920 --> 01:00:19.679
probably if it was a control the situation where I

1048
01:00:19.719 --> 01:00:22.480
had more time, I took something, but if it was

1049
01:00:22.559 --> 01:00:25.800
a confusion and other things I didn't as I was

1050
01:00:25.880 --> 01:00:26.559
trying to get out of there.

1051
01:00:26.880 --> 01:00:29.000
All right, So in regard to the Davis matter, you

1052
01:00:29.239 --> 01:00:31.320
went around the room, took a few personal things.

1053
01:00:31.400 --> 01:00:34.719
What did you do? Then? Uh? Strangled her? What did

1054
01:00:34.800 --> 01:00:37.559
you strangle her with? Panticose? What happened?

1055
01:00:37.639 --> 01:00:37.760
Then?

1056
01:00:38.880 --> 01:00:42.760
I kind of like missus Hedge, I already figured out

1057
01:00:42.840 --> 01:00:45.440
my I had a you know, plan on leaving, and

1058
01:00:46.199 --> 01:00:48.239
put her in the blanket and drug her to the car,

1059
01:00:48.440 --> 01:00:49.480
put her in the trunk of the car.

1060
01:00:49.840 --> 01:00:51.599
So you were able to strangle her to death with

1061
01:00:51.719 --> 01:00:53.840
these panos? Yes, all right?

1062
01:00:53.880 --> 01:00:56.480
You put her in your car and perfect her car

1063
01:00:57.000 --> 01:01:01.639
a trunk or car. What happened then? Uh, I really

1064
01:01:02.079 --> 01:01:04.840
had a commitment I needed to go to. So I

1065
01:01:05.039 --> 01:01:08.920
moved her to one spot, took her out of her car.

1066
01:01:09.440 --> 01:01:16.599
This gets complicated. Then the stuff I had, clothes, gun, whatever,

1067
01:01:16.719 --> 01:01:20.320
I took up to another spot and her car dumped

1068
01:01:20.360 --> 01:01:26.119
that off. Okay, then took her car back to her house.

1069
01:01:29.719 --> 01:01:38.119
Left that we think that Okay? In the interim, I

1070
01:01:38.199 --> 01:01:40.000
took her car back to her house, and interim I

1071
01:01:40.079 --> 01:01:42.679
realized that I had lost one of my guns. I

1072
01:01:42.800 --> 01:01:46.119
dropped it somewhere, so I was sat trying to figure

1073
01:01:46.119 --> 01:01:48.079
out where my gun was. So I went back in

1074
01:01:48.159 --> 01:01:49.920
the house realized that I had dropped it when I

1075
01:01:49.960 --> 01:01:52.159
went into when I broke the plate glass window, it

1076
01:01:52.320 --> 01:01:53.840
dropped and fell on the floor right there, and I

1077
01:01:53.880 --> 01:01:56.320
found it right there. So that's all that problem. Anyway,

1078
01:01:56.320 --> 01:01:59.559
I went back out through the keys, checked the car

1079
01:01:59.639 --> 01:02:02.559
with quick like through keys, up on top of the

1080
01:02:02.639 --> 01:02:06.480
roof to the Kirk house, walked from her car back

1081
01:02:06.559 --> 01:02:11.480
to my car, took my car, drove it back, and

1082
01:02:11.840 --> 01:02:14.960
I either dropped more stuff off or I picked her

1083
01:02:15.079 --> 01:02:17.440
up and put them in my car. And then I

1084
01:02:17.559 --> 01:02:21.559
drove up northeast of Sefolk County and dropped her off

1085
01:02:21.679 --> 01:02:22.559
underneath a bridge.

1086
01:02:23.360 --> 01:02:28.400
Now the calmness in that, y'all is just shocking to me.

1087
01:02:29.239 --> 01:02:32.719
So on August eighteenth of two thousand and five, Judge

1088
01:02:32.800 --> 01:02:36.960
Waller sentences Radar to ten consecutive wife sentences, the maximum

1089
01:02:37.159 --> 01:02:40.599
possible under Kansas law. At the time, it amounted to

1090
01:02:40.719 --> 01:02:45.000
one hundred and seventy five years without the possibility of parole,

1091
01:02:45.440 --> 01:02:48.800
and the judge would describe Raider's crimes as the most

1092
01:02:49.000 --> 01:02:53.239
heinous he had ever encountered, and Raider again showed little

1093
01:02:53.320 --> 01:02:57.840
reaction during the sentencing, he actually thanked the judge and

1094
01:02:57.960 --> 01:03:01.239
he gets led away. His wife, Paula, would file for

1095
01:03:01.360 --> 01:03:06.360
divorce shortly afterward, and that divorce was granted. And since

1096
01:03:06.480 --> 01:03:09.840
his sentencing in August of two thousand and five, Dennis

1097
01:03:09.920 --> 01:03:14.199
Writer has been serving ten consecutive life sentences at the

1098
01:03:14.360 --> 01:03:18.800
El Dorado Correctional Facility. This is in Kansas, and he's

1099
01:03:18.840 --> 01:03:21.880
still alive, believe it or not. Now in his eighties,

1100
01:03:22.079 --> 01:03:25.119
he has housed in a high security unit. He's obviously

1101
01:03:25.360 --> 01:03:28.000
isolated from general population due.

1102
01:03:27.840 --> 01:03:28.920
To his notorioting.

1103
01:03:29.119 --> 01:03:32.079
No one would love anything more than other inmates to

1104
01:03:32.239 --> 01:03:35.519
kill Dennis Writer, and he spends much of his time

1105
01:03:35.679 --> 01:03:39.320
in his cell reading, writing, and drawing. And Raider has

1106
01:03:39.480 --> 01:03:43.840
granted occasional interviews over the year, often attempting to present

1107
01:03:43.960 --> 01:03:48.119
himself as cooperative or even insightful about his own psychology.

1108
01:03:48.519 --> 01:03:52.440
He's spoken about that factor X, that force he claimed

1109
01:03:52.519 --> 01:03:55.800
that drove him, and he has shown an interest in

1110
01:03:55.960 --> 01:03:59.920
true crime and psychology books. He's also created art work

1111
01:04:00.239 --> 01:04:06.159
and written extensively. Though prison officials closely monitor every communication,

1112
01:04:06.320 --> 01:04:09.800
he puts out there to prevent him from contacting victims'

1113
01:04:09.840 --> 01:04:13.800
families or seeking further notoriety. He even helped to provide

1114
01:04:13.840 --> 01:04:18.920
a profile with recent serial killer Brian Koberger when he

1115
01:04:19.119 --> 01:04:22.440
was still on the loose. Rider has found small ways

1116
01:04:22.559 --> 01:04:26.639
to exert control and gain attention. He's corresponded with some

1117
01:04:26.760 --> 01:04:31.079
true crime researchers and authors, and is never admitted to

1118
01:04:31.199 --> 01:04:35.239
any other crimes, though the police get this. They did

1119
01:04:35.360 --> 01:04:39.519
find some drawings of victims bound and tortured that looked

1120
01:04:39.719 --> 01:04:44.519
very similar to people missing from the Wichita area. Now, personally,

1121
01:04:44.800 --> 01:04:47.800
I think there's more victims, and I think the reason

1122
01:04:47.920 --> 01:04:52.119
that Raider doesn't want to admit to two specific killings

1123
01:04:52.199 --> 01:04:56.119
in particular that took place that he has drawings of

1124
01:04:56.360 --> 01:05:02.000
very similar people or similar looking people is number one,

1125
01:05:02.159 --> 01:05:05.639
a control thing. He wants to be able to disclose

1126
01:05:06.039 --> 01:05:10.039
whatever he wants to disclose, and he feels like the

1127
01:05:10.119 --> 01:05:12.960
police are constantly going to be kissing his ass if

1128
01:05:13.000 --> 01:05:17.239
he still has killings to admit to. But second, one

1129
01:05:17.320 --> 01:05:20.800
of those murders in particular, he is highly suspected of

1130
01:05:21.360 --> 01:05:25.800
having committed took place in a neighboring state that does

1131
01:05:26.000 --> 01:05:29.159
have the death penalty. He faces the risk of being

1132
01:05:29.280 --> 01:05:32.199
put to death in that state. Now, as far as

1133
01:05:32.280 --> 01:05:35.280
his family, his ex wife Paula, has maintained a very

1134
01:05:35.360 --> 01:05:38.880
low profile. His children, Brian and Carrey. They've had to

1135
01:05:39.039 --> 01:05:41.960
navigate life with the knowledge of knowing your dad was

1136
01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:46.320
a serial killer and having this infamous image to the public.

1137
01:05:46.480 --> 01:05:51.079
Can't imagine that. His daughter, Carrie Rawson, she actually wrote

1138
01:05:51.119 --> 01:05:54.480
a book. It was called a serial Killer's Daughter, and

1139
01:05:54.599 --> 01:05:58.159
it detailed the impact on their family and her long

1140
01:05:58.360 --> 01:06:01.599
journey toward healings. You can go check that out if

1141
01:06:01.639 --> 01:06:05.480
you be interested in reading that. Raider has made occasional

1142
01:06:05.559 --> 01:06:09.320
appeals and requests, but all those have been denied. So

1143
01:06:09.440 --> 01:06:13.119
there you have it. And what makes this particular case,

1144
01:06:13.320 --> 01:06:17.239
this two part series on BTK so disturbing, is how

1145
01:06:17.519 --> 01:06:21.480
thoroughly Raider was able to hide in plain sight. He

1146
01:06:21.599 --> 01:06:24.440
was a husband, y'all, a father, a church leader, a

1147
01:06:24.519 --> 01:06:27.719
Scout leader, a city employee, the kind of man you

1148
01:06:27.840 --> 01:06:30.760
might wave at if you live in the neighborhood with him,

1149
01:06:31.239 --> 01:06:33.320
or you sit next to him at church you might

1150
01:06:33.440 --> 01:06:39.199
say hello. His ability to compartmentalize evil while maintaining a

1151
01:06:39.320 --> 01:06:43.360
facade of just being a normal guy, it serves as

1152
01:06:43.440 --> 01:06:47.880
a reminder that monsters don't always look like you would

1153
01:06:47.920 --> 01:06:50.480
think they look. And with that, thank you so much

1154
01:06:50.559 --> 01:06:54.199
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1159
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1160
01:07:14.639 --> 01:07:16.079
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1161
01:07:16.480 --> 01:07:17.079
Much love,