July 2, 2025

Officer Friendly

Officer Friendly
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Season 7

In this episode of Bloody Angola, Jim Chapman covers the tragic story of the murder of Slidell, Louisiana PD, Sargent Earl Alfred, who was killed while responding to a silent alarm at a jewelry store.

Timestamps
07:03 Meet Officer Friendly
21:00 The Robbery and Shooting Unfolds
23:43 Escape Convict
26:37 Clemency Hearing
42:29 Getting Justice

Source Credits
https://www.justice.gov/atr/upcoming-hearings-and-trials
https://www.leagle.com/decision/19771056353so2d7031940
https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/la-court-of-appeal/1248703.html
https://www.nola.com/news/crime_police/clemency-denied-1975-murder-slidell-police-officer/article_910b0dc4-54e7-11ef-aead-8bb4d718c410.html
https://northshoremedia.net/2024/08/07/pardon-request-for-slidell-killer-denied/
https://juryverdicts.net/lajvrblog
Newspapers.com
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1713566/state-v-lewis/

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Inside these walls, inside the wild.

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And when the girls I Hey everyone, and welcome back

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to Bloody Angola, a podcast one and forty two years

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in the making, the complete story of America's Bloodiest Present.

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I'm Jim Chapman, and today I am bringing you a

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story that many people requested after last week's episode. Now,

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last week I covered this story and conviction of Charles

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Ray Spears, who was known as the Good Year Killer. Now,

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in that episode, I referenced a robbery the developed into

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a murder in nearby Slidell, Louisiana, and sadly, that was

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the murder of an officer by the name of Earl Alfred. Now,

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a lot of you reached out. You wanted to hear

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more about this case and what the result of it

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was and learn more about Sergeant Earl Alfred. So I'm

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going to tell you the entire story today, but before

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I do, I want to update you on some news

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that broke just this week, and that is the capture

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of Antoine Massey. He was the ninth of ten inmates

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to escape the Orleans Paris jail. Of course, I covered

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that escape in previous episodes, and I want to quickly

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get you up to date. And I'm going to reference

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a CNN article for this, and that CNN article reads,

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ninth escape New Orleans inmate is captured, leaving just one

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at large. An Twine Massey, a serial escapee who vanished

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from a New Orleans jail with nine other inmates just

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after midnight on May sixteenth, was arrested Friday afternoon in

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New Orleans. According to the Orleans Parish Sheriff's Office, the

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last remaining escapee, Derrick Groves, is still on the run

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after breaking out of the Orleans Justice Center in New

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Orleans over a month ago. Massey was recently charged with

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vehicle theft in domestic abuse involving strangulation. This according to

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Orleans Parish records, The thirty three year old was captured

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in a rental property in the Hollygrove neighborhood of New Orleans.

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And incidentally, all that's in the ninth ward and that

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was according to Deputy US Marshall Brian Fair. He was

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arrested just miles from the jail where Massey and other

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inmates made their brazen escape, taking advantage of bad locks,

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stolen bedding in a hungry jail employee, and they used

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electronic hair trimmers with multiple clipper blades to help cut

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their way through the cell walls. He was taken into

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custody without incident after being surrounded on Friday afternoon, and

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according to US marshals, it was a peaceful arrest quote

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after receiving a tip. Follow up work was done and

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that led to the arrest today. Remember I told you

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once they upped that reward to fifty grand, don't be

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surprised if somebody turned on Massy quickly, And apparently that's

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what happened.

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Now.

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After the arrest, Massey was flown to a secure state

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facility outside.

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Of the area.

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And if you're curious what that is, folks, it's bloody Angola.

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Massy has a long track record of escaping custody. In

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two thousand and seven, he broke out of a New

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Orleans juvenile detention center after being arrested on suspicion of

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armed robbery and aggravated assault. And early in June, authorities

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rated a home after a video showed a man claiming

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to be Massy saying he was innocent. In the video,

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the man claimed to be Massy appealed to Lil Wayne

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for help and held a document to the camera what

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he says was a stamped affidavit that proves his innocent.

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He also claimed his ex girlfriend Diamond White, recanted at

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her allegation of abuse in that affidavit. Groves, who was

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still at large, was convicted in October of killing two

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people in twenty eighteen, and later pleaded guilty the battery

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of a corrections officer. New Orleans Police Department Chief Anne

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Kirkpatrick address Combs directly at a Friday news conference, saying,

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we are going to capture you. You will be taken

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into custody, but you still have the option to peacefully

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turn yourself in, and we will make an appeal for

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you to do so. Quote the public defender is ready

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to meet you and be with you from the very

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moment you choose to turn yourself in. Groves case went

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to trial four separate times, according to the Orleans Parish

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District Attorney's Office. They said he was determined to be

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one of two gunmen who opened fire with an AK

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forty seven assault rifle on what should have been a

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joyous Mardi Gras gathering. A woman believed to be Grove's girlfriend,

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currently Dirianna Burton, was arrested earlier in June for helping

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him escape. Allegedly, she had exchanged text messages and video

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calls with Groves in the days leading up to the escape.

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And there is a fifty thousand dollars reward for information

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leading the Groves capture. Chief Deputy US Marshall Walter Martin said,

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just like we found mister Massey today, we will find

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growths and we will continue our efforts. Of course, he

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encouraged anyone with information about Groves whereabouts to alert authorities. Quote,

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you can remain anonymous, but we need your help. Collectively,

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we will not rest even if it takes another six

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days or six weeks until the last fugitive is in custody.

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So there you have that, only one more left in

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this escape saga. Now let's get into today's episode, and

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I'm gonna start by telling you a little bit about

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Sergeant Alfred and to say that this officer was a

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trailblazer in law enforcement would be an absolute understatement. He

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started with the slide L Police Department in nineteen seventy

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and he was the first black officer ever hired by

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the slide L Police Department. He was born in nineteen forty.

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He grew up in Louisiana and it was there you

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could say that he developed a very strong sense of

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community and service which led him into law enforcement. He

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had served in the US Army, and of course that

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develops his sense of duty and discipline that you can

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really only get from the military, and it certainly prepared

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him for the challenges he would face later on as

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a police officer. This was a very formative time in

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his life and it really shaped everything you would look

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for in a police officer, such as leader, skip skills, commitment,

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and one of the most important qualities to have as

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an officer is the ability to remain calm under pressure.

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All of this gets developed in the military. Now, as

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I just mentioned, he was the first black police officer

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hired in slide L. And look, this is nineteen seventy,

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the height of racial tension, and when you're the first

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black officer on a predominantly white police force during that time,

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it's I'm sure not without its challenges, and it took

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someone like Officer Alfred to really step into that type

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of role during that time in history. He had a

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very approachable demeanor, He was dedicated to his job and

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he was flat out beloved. As a matter of fact,

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he earned a nickname throughout the community and that nickname

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was off Sir Friendly.

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Now.

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Throughout his career with the Slightel Police Department that started

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in nineteen seventy, he demonstrated exceptional dedication to his duties.

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He had a deep commitment to the safety and well

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being of the community, which is very important. And it

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wasn't long before he was promoted to the rank of

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sergeant and that's really a testament to not only his

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leadership skills, but his effectiveness as a police officer. Sergeant

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Alfred was particularly known for his ability to be proactive

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in policing. He would engage with the community frequently and

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he would really work to bridge the gap right between

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police and the public. His personal life was no different.

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He was in a lovely marriage. He and his wife

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had adopted a daughter and this was a big source

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of pride for him. He was all about family, which

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really spoke to me because in his line of work,

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it's not easy to maintain a productive, healthy personal life.

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I mean, police officers, they see the worst of people

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a lot of the time. Yet he seemed to thrive

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in both of these areas, both professionally and personally, so

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all seem well in the world. On August thirteenth of

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nineteen seventy five, when at approximately eight o'clock am, he

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responds to a silent alarm at the Champagne Jewelry Store

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in Slidedale, Louisiana. In this alarm, it was directly linked

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to the Slidel Police Department, so the response was quick

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between when Sergeant Alfred received this notification, if you will,

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that the silent alarm had been triggered at the Champagne

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Jewelry store. And I'm going to take you back to

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just prior to the triggering of that alarm, and I'm

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going to tell you what was going on that Sergeant

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Alfred had no idea what he was walking into. So

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a twenty six year old male suspect, he enters that

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store and he tells the twenty year old employee, her

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name was Betty Graves, that he was there to pick

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up a ring. So missus Graves, she opens the safe

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and she grabs like that tray of rings, and as

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soon as she swings back around, she realizes that this

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suspect has went behind the counter and he's armed. He

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has a twenty two caliber handgun as well as a

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pair of scissors. He grabs her and he starts dragging

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her to the back room, and as he's dragging her

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to the back room, he is wailing on her with

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those scissors, stabbing her over and over again, as well

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as choking her because he's pulling her by the neck. Now,

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eventually he lets her go and she just kind of

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falls to the floor. She had been stabbed twenty two

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times with those scissors just all over her body. Now,

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at this point, the suspect takes a bunch of those

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rings and jewelry, and it was estimated later to be

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about five thousand dollars total, which this is nineteen seventy

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it's probably worth five times that in today's money. At

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that point, the suspect goes out the front door, and

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according to missus Graves, she heard the word halt, and

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then she heard a gunshot and then silence, and then

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several more shots and I want to say something at

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this point. I referred to several newspaper articles during that time,

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and some of these say he went out the front door.

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Some of these say he went out the back door.

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It's really irrelevant. He went out of a door. He

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went through one of those doors, and that is when

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he was approached by Sergeant Earl Alfred, who was responded

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to that silent alarm. According to the Louisiana Weekly, Sergeant

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Alfred apprehended the robber in the driveway behind that jewelry store,

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and after relieving the suspect of his pistol, which Sergeant

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Alfred put in his pocket, he attempted to put handcuffs

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on the suspect. Now, as any police officer will tell you,

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when you pull the handcuffs out and you click that

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first handcuff on, suspects freak out. They realize that shit

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just got real, right and that's what happened here, and

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they get into a major scuffle. It was during that

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scuffle that Sergeant Alfred's gun falls out of his holster.

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Somehow this suspect managed to pick it up and he

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shoots Alfred and kills this amazing officer. So back inside

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the jewelry store, Miss Betty Graves. She hears the gunshots,

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and this amazing lady somehow manages to crawl out the

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front door with twenty two stab wounds from those scissors,

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and she gets Sergeant Alfred's radio and essentially calls for backup.

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And again there are some conflicting reports. There are some

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people that reported that she attempted to call for backup,

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but she passed out before she was able to get

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the CB up to her mouth to call for the backup.

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And then there's other reports that say she was actually

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able to call for backup, and what she said was

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please get help. I'm bleeding to death. I'm gonna say

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she called for backup. Now, I'm gonna paint a picture

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for you of how confusing this stuff got back then

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when they're reporting news, and how crazy the news had

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gotten when something like this happened. There are articles all

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over the place from this incident from newspapers, which is

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what I referred to, and all of them had different information.

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Some said she was eighteen, some said Miss Grays was nineteen.

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Of course, I told you, they can't agree on whether

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she called for backup, et cetera. And that was a

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product of everybody being in a rush to report this story.

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This was before social media, and it was a race

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at that time to get that breaking news out, and

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they just didn't get it right a lot of the outlets.

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But regardless of all that, this happened in broad daylight,

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that we know for sure, and there were a few

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witnesses to this that would come into play later. Now,

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immediately following the incident, of course, police officers shot all

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hands on deck. Right when something like that occurs, they're

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shutting down the city, they're forming a perimeter. Apbs are

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put out, and they had a description from witnesses of

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a truck which was a black and white seventies model

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Chevrolet or similar. They set up roadblocks. They're looking for

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this truck, but nothing panned out and it seemed like

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the suspect was able to get away. Now, shortly after that,

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mere days, as a matter of fact, a man goes

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into the slide L Police department and he basically said

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he had some concerns. He said the vehicle that the

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assailant who shot this officer in looked like his vehicle,

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and the composite sketch that they were able to get

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from miss Betty looked like him, and he was concerned

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because he didn't want people to think that was him.

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And he was the one who killed this officer and

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he was there to essentially clear his name. And this

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guy's name was David E. Lewis. Now, of course, the

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slide L Police department, they're like, this doesn't seem right.

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So the officer on duty he tells the defendant that, hey,

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if he wanted to talk about this, they need to

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read him his Mariderites, which they did, and he said,

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you're not under arrest. You can leave any time you

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want to do so. And at that point Lewis says again, hey,

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I'm just here to clear my name of any suspicion

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and I'm willing to answer any questions that you have.

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So they bring Louis into the interrogation room. And it's

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also worth noting his mom was with him at this point.

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She went with him to the police department and they

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leave her out front and the police go in there

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and they ask him if he wants anything. He asked

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for some coffee. He actually asked for some candy and

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some water, so they go get that stuff for him,

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and they never handcuffed him. They didn't shackle him, his

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movement was not restricted anything like that. He wasn't under arrest.

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But most importantly, they didn't want to do anything to

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make this guy feel like he was under arrest. But

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they had a good suspicion that he had something to

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do with this, and it was at this point that

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they even went as far as to contact the district

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Attorney and asked him to come to the police station

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because they wanted him to oversee that interrogation and make

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sure they weren't doing anything out of line, because the

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last thing that they wanted to do is find out

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that this guy indeed had something to do with it,

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and they did something to screw up the confession and

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the whole case gets thrown out because the law wasn't followed.

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So the DA gets there and he even asked Lewis

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if he had been mistreated, and Lewis said no, he

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had no complaints and all was good. So at this time,

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a man by the name of Lieutenant Humphrey, he was

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the head of the Criminal Investigations Division for Slidel. He

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wanted to assign who he would consider to be the

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best person to question Lewis, and he chooses an officer

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by the name of Officer Penton, and the reason he

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chose that officer was not only was he the most

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experienced officer in the department, but he was also the

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oldest officer in the department, and he felt like the

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age difference between Lewis and this officer would put Lewis

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more at ease, he wouldn't feel as intimidated. So Officer

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Penton he goes into the room alone to question Lewis,

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and he gets what officers would refer to as the

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juice out of this guy. Lewis eventually sings like a canary.

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He confesses not only do this, but he tells Officer

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Pentton where they can find the murder weapon, which was

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incidentally Officer Friendly's own gun, and he also tells them

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where they can find the jewelry and clothing that he

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had worn, and they were in a woody area near

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where Lewis lived. He then signs what's known as a

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waiver of rights and the officers go and they recover

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this physical evidence, which once they recovered that there's no

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dispute that he did this murder, and he did request

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to speak to his mother, which they allowed him to do,

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and I guess he tells her goodbye because he just

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confessed to the murder of a police officer and the

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attempted murder of a twenty year old Miss Betty Graves.

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So the ensuing weeks, of course, as you would expect,

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the slide L community really gets behind the family of

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this officer. As I said, he was very beloved, and

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they do everything they can to help. And it wasn't

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long after that that the city of Slidel they really

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gave the ultimate honor for this slain officer when they

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renamed third Street in Slydel, which is kind of a

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main artery through that city, they renamed that Sergeant Earl

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Alfred Drive. And then just shortly after that, the indictments

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are returned from a Saint Tammany Parish grand jury against

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David Eugene Lewis from the murder of Earl Alfred and

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the attempted murder of Miss Betty. And it was on

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June twenty third, nineteen seventy six, a little less than

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a year later, that a guilty verdict is returned in

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that murder of Sergeant Alfred. And you might wonder, well,

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if he confessed, why did they even have to get

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a trial, and obviously that's not the way that worked.

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Of Course, an attorney eventually gets a halt to this guy,

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and in this case, he knew Lewis had nothing to

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lose and we're going to get a trial, and that's

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exactly what they did. And some things that occurred during

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that trial. Lewis actually stated that yes, he signed a confession. However,

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he was promised a light sentence if he signed that confession.

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You got to be a freaking moron to think if

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you're going to kill a police officer, you're going to

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get a light sentence. Also, in the trial, the physical

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evidence came out, including forensic evidence that was recovered at

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the scene that he told them where it was. Of course,

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miss Betty Graves, she was the star witness of this trial.

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She survived despite those twenty two stab wounds. She testified.

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And another thing that was strange to me, Lewis actually

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even tried to claim during the trial that he was

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outside of the store, that he never went inside and

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some guy he only knew is Mackie, was the one

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inside the store and that was the one that killed

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officer Friendly. Again title bullshit, right. The jury only deliberated

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for about four hours before handing down the guilty verdict,

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and he gets sentenced, And in this case, he gets

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sentenced to life in prison with no possibility of parole.

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What I didn't tell you was there was a separate

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trial that took place in between the time he committed

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this crime and when he was convicted. In the trial,

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Lewis was actually charged with second degree murdered times two

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counts in some other cases that took place in New Orleans.

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One of those crimes involved shooting a man in the

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back seven times with a twenty two caliber pistol were

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resulting in his death. And another charge involved an individual

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named Larry Bemwaugh who was shot in the throat with

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a thirty eight caliber pistol during what was similar to

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a gang shooting. It was over drugs of some sort. Now,

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in those trials, Lewis was acquitted of the first charge

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and he was found guilty in the charge of shooting

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Larry Bemwaugh in the throat with that thirty eight revolver.

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So at this point in time, the guy has a

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sentence of life plus thirty years essentially, so it's off

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to spend the rest of his life in jail right, well,

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not exactly. Believe it or not, this cop killer and

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murderer of at least one other person, possibly two, he escapes,

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and how he escaped is a pretty wild story. He

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was actually in the hospital at the time. He had

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underwent a kidney surgery of some sort, and while he

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was recovering in the hospital, which was Charity Hospital in

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New Orleans, he somehow just walks out the front door

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and he was captured. I can't get the exact time

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that he was on the run, but more than a

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few days, less than a month. It just basically says

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several weeks, and he was recaptured near the Mississippi state line.

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But here's the crazy thing. The police had a roadblock

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set up for something in someone completely different, nothing to

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do with Lewis. And David Lewis and a female who

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I'm assuming was his girlfriend. They're driving down the road,

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old country road, and they see this roadblock set up

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and they turn around in the middle of the road. Well,

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what do you think the police.

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Are going to do?

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They see them turn around, and several of these year

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they start chasing that vehicle and they pull it over

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and get this Lewis gets out of the car and

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he starts struggling with these police officers. He almost gets

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his hand on one of the officers shot guns, but

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they were able to subdue him while he was fighting

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to get this gun, and he was taken into custody

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yet again. And there's no doubt that he would have

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killed another officer as quick as blank if he could

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have got his hands on that gun. So at this point,

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it's off to bloody Angola for this guy to spend

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the rest of his life right, no chance of parole anything. Well,

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not so fast. In twenty twenty four, David Eugene Lewis,

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he gets a shot at clemency and I have that

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parole hearing and you need to hear it. I have

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the clip for that. It's around two twenty minutes long,

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but it's very interesting. A lot of people speak at

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this parole hearing against his release, including the slide L

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Police Department, the former mayor of slide L and others

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including Lewis. And I'm gonna play that you're gonna find

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out in this clip if this guy actually gets released.

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Here's that clip.

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We're gonna have your case, mister Lewis. We're going to

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do several things here. First off, we're gonna hear from

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you what you have to say about this particular incident

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and what you've been doing since this incident. And then

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we're going to ask the warden or the assistant warden

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to tell us what kind of an inmate that you

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have been. Then we will go and we'll have some

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folks that are here in present that want to that

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are going to speak in opposition of this hearing. And

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then we will have a chance for us as the board.

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We'll ask you questions and then we will have a

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vote that will be taken. So first off, let's go

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ahead and get started with you and tell us. Tell

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us what you think about the crime and what you've

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been doing since the crime was committed, and why should

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we grant you your request to that.

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Oh, I'm guilty for what I'm charged with. Oh, and

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I'm very sorry about what happened, about what I did. H.

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It hurts me to think about him. I've been about

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forty nine years now and I still not able to

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come the we at what I did.

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Oh.

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I realized that through taking these courses a victim awareness death,

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it made me aware of the extreme hurt and pain

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that I have caused the victims and the victims family,

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and I never had taken that under considered raising during

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the time I was committing committing the offense. I'm really

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sorry for what I did. M It hurts me deep

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down their side for.

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What I did.

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And knowing how much hurt and of course the victims

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in all sort of family, I'm just hoping that they'll

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be able too to care over what over what I did.

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I spend here, I hurry behind it. I take it

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really real. I take all the responsibility for h and

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which say it never happened.

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Yes, all right? Uh, warden, what's what kind of endmce

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is mister Lewis Ben Miss.

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Lewis only had a total of ten dB reports since

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he'd been here, the last being in twenty twenty two

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for a root for disobedience, which is a low court here.

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Uh.

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He also have taken anger management one hundred dollars, victim

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awareness and he did the victim.

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Awareness letter training his tiger is low.

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Uh.

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Missus Lewis also UH the TAY test several times trying

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to get his ged. The highest level he got was

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and there was no other records of educational programs.

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Here he couldn't. Did you get the gen I guess

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we pad of learning the disabilities? Uh, sir, Other than

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that I have anything? Okay, thank you?

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Well give me.

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A ya. I finished high school?

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Oh? Okay, say you finished high school?

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I got I am displomal? Yeah?

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Okay?

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Where did you finish high school?

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How did you take that?

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Very far?

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Where was that you finished?

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Thanks?

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You know State Taming Parish, State Chaman of high School

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and Stay Family Parish.

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Okay, all right, okay, we'll hear now from uh, let's see,

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let's hear from Butch Wilson a DA and sant Tamnedy Parish.

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This attorney dollars?

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Is he here, Chris Wilson, Yes, sir, thank you, Thank you.

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Unless members of the boards think that we need to

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go through a factual citation, I don't think I need

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to do that because I'm sure where I will say

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that I've discussed the facts of this case with the

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with the district attorney.

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00:31:50.960 --> 00:31:51.039
And.

475
00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:56.920
Both of us are somewhat of the belief that over

476
00:31:57.000 --> 00:32:00.799
the period of time that mister Lewis Is been in jail,

477
00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:06.440
that given what had happened since he was convicted, with

478
00:32:06.559 --> 00:32:08.599
the escape that I'm sure you all are all aware

479
00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:13.279
of the attempt of disarming of second police officer during

480
00:32:13.400 --> 00:32:14.000
the escape.

481
00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:18.559
That we believe that at some point his real regret

482
00:32:18.680 --> 00:32:19.319
must have been.

483
00:32:19.359 --> 00:32:21.720
Not finishing what he had started with the clerk and

484
00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:24.920
not taking the time to kill the truck dropper, because

485
00:32:24.960 --> 00:32:27.119
if you've read the facts in this case, those were

486
00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:29.279
the only two witnesses that could connect him.

487
00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:29.839
To this murder.

488
00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:35.400
Thank god that didn't happen, because that was the only way.

489
00:32:35.519 --> 00:32:38.680
If the truck driver, mister Smith hadn't been there to

490
00:32:38.759 --> 00:32:40.920
see the vehicle he was driving, he would have gotten

491
00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:44.960
away with it. He would have Miss Graves can't even

492
00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:48.119
be here today because she can't go through this situation anymore.

493
00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:52.680
She can't relive this. It's still with hers, she still

494
00:32:52.759 --> 00:32:57.960
has the stars all over her body. On behalf of

495
00:32:58.000 --> 00:33:01.039
the Saya louisianaic or the oppositely Charny. We asked that

496
00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:05.319
you honor the memory starting Alfred and the pain that

497
00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:10.160
this race has gone through, and deny Cleton seeings.

498
00:33:11.240 --> 00:33:14.960
Thank you, thanks you, sir, appreciate you being here, the

499
00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:18.720
trouble to get here and your words will take anythings

500
00:33:18.839 --> 00:33:24.319
good consideration. Mister friend and Freddy Dinnon and the slide

501
00:33:24.359 --> 00:33:26.680
down police forward that I say, you're right on here, sir,

502
00:33:28.319 --> 00:33:30.000
are you the are you the man or.

503
00:33:32.119 --> 00:33:34.519
Perd time that you feels occurred in all with newmployer

504
00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:37.799
by the same time, Office, I would want to investigator

505
00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:38.680
to that.

506
00:33:38.880 --> 00:33:41.440
Now will be about to get a come over. I

507
00:33:41.519 --> 00:33:44.680
will presently the driver toarment. It didn't work.

508
00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:53.000
Achieve sure office and Popabi congratulations good uh as I said,

509
00:33:53.000 --> 00:33:57.039
I would want to investigators evolve investigator do your.

510
00:33:57.000 --> 00:34:00.880
Ear Alfred very well. I work with r was the

511
00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:06.480
first African American going for the body. I worked for

512
00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:08.920
the years, all working back and forth with the city.

513
00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:11.760
We have a bread, dear, and did the market boat

514
00:34:14.280 --> 00:34:17.880
giving moved. I did not know Marry Hodge at the time.

515
00:34:18.440 --> 00:34:21.400
Get her and I've got to know her sin and

516
00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:24.519
she said, oh, softly, tramatically wrong.

517
00:34:26.679 --> 00:34:26.880
You know.

518
00:34:28.760 --> 00:34:32.159
It just couldn't get on the ding of the land.

519
00:34:33.960 --> 00:34:34.679
With the versy.

520
00:34:34.679 --> 00:34:37.760
Here is someone, in my opinion, something round where he

521
00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:40.320
gives but the offenses it to get a herd.

522
00:34:41.440 --> 00:34:43.440
He did it and she admitted to and.

523
00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:47.840
Uh uh eighty part of the board forgiving me was

524
00:34:47.880 --> 00:34:51.400
going to rest my cinion about it, and I'll appreciate

525
00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:52.000
what you're doing.

526
00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:56.119
Thank you, sir, I appreciate your time, and we'll take

527
00:34:56.159 --> 00:34:59.920
your remarks in the consideration. Jay brad Clark with the

528
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:01.679
the Attorney General's Office.

529
00:35:06.840 --> 00:35:09.880
About running your own be happy at twenty feeneral laws.

530
00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:13.440
Just a few recomminates on these cases.

531
00:35:14.199 --> 00:35:17.000
I've noticed that in the sort of most statement he

532
00:35:17.079 --> 00:35:20.599
said that he takes responsibility in this case, and there

533
00:35:20.719 --> 00:35:25.719
was an awful appetake responsibility. They comb set twenty few times.

534
00:35:25.800 --> 00:35:30.039
Given strang police officer murdered in the line of duty

535
00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:34.039
and escape and then the attempt to disarmed and murder

536
00:35:34.639 --> 00:35:40.679
a second wood soficer. These are extraordinary facts. These are

537
00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:46.559
fenus facts. These are Themis proms With supposed was given

538
00:35:46.599 --> 00:35:52.719
a life sentence given the fact of the extreme mansure

539
00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:58.280
of these jises, the fact the younger cultes you could

540
00:35:58.280 --> 00:36:01.119
still be felt by and survive and get them to

541
00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:06.199
the stick. Attorney General's Office would ask the sport to

542
00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:07.239
the dye pletancy.

543
00:36:08.119 --> 00:36:10.840
It's the life sentence in this matter. He's the appropriate

544
00:36:11.400 --> 00:36:12.559
and just simmence.

545
00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:12.719
That was.

546
00:36:16.239 --> 00:36:18.760
Thank you, sir, appreciate your time and and we'll take

547
00:36:18.800 --> 00:36:23.960
your remarks consideration. Okay, As we normally do, each board

548
00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:26.639
member is supplied all of the reports and we read

549
00:36:26.719 --> 00:36:30.800
them all I can tell you that's the truth. And uh.

550
00:36:31.159 --> 00:36:33.760
And then we have one particular board member that conducts

551
00:36:33.800 --> 00:36:36.960
the questioning for us. In this particular case, it's mister

552
00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:48.239
Chucky Tellis. Oh, I'm sorry that okay, okay, all right, sar, yes, sir,

553
00:36:48.679 --> 00:36:51.079
would you please introduce yourself. It's not on my sheet

554
00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:55.000
here and uh and I apologize to that.

555
00:36:56.760 --> 00:36:58.400
One of the bar on board for allow us to

556
00:36:58.440 --> 00:36:59.119
come to sweep there.

557
00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:01.440
I'm read, I'm checking the police in at the city

558
00:37:01.599 --> 00:37:04.559
slide represented the slide of Land City. I'm gonna give

559
00:37:04.559 --> 00:37:06.880
you a little bit different perspectives from my point of view.

560
00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:10.559
I was fifteen years old in the sent This affected

561
00:37:10.639 --> 00:37:16.360
our community definitely have started all Alfred, he said, work

562
00:37:16.400 --> 00:37:20.199
a school crossing guard and I was one of the

563
00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:22.719
kids that he used to not across the street. So

564
00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:26.960
this was kind a profound effect on our family, our community.

565
00:37:27.320 --> 00:37:32.039
And now I've been dedicating my life. It's a law

566
00:37:32.159 --> 00:37:34.519
enforcement I've been in law enforcement now forty four years

567
00:37:34.559 --> 00:37:38.679
this year, work myself up to the chief of police.

568
00:37:38.679 --> 00:37:42.239
And you're asking you. It's a representati of the silence.

569
00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:45.679
Please see to this man's mens for us, and it's

570
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:46.960
like in prison.

571
00:37:48.239 --> 00:37:51.360
Thank you, thank you, chief. We appreciate your words. And

572
00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:55.639
I guess for did not recognizing you and and is

573
00:37:55.719 --> 00:37:56.320
it the captain?

574
00:37:56.360 --> 00:37:56.920
And that's with you?

575
00:37:58.039 --> 00:37:58.760
Who are you, sir?

576
00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:02.719
I'm a captain strut NICKI okay, well sorry, thank you,

577
00:38:02.920 --> 00:38:05.480
appreciate you men here, thank you the time to get here. Yes,

578
00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:09.079
all right, we'll go back to mister Tillis. Now do

579
00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:12.039
you have any uh any questions?

580
00:38:12.159 --> 00:38:12.320
Yes?

581
00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:14.199
Are you doing? Mister Lewis?

582
00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:19.840
All right? So you're as right?

583
00:38:20.119 --> 00:38:24.280
I thought I heard the warden say twenty two. Is

584
00:38:24.360 --> 00:38:24.840
that correct?

585
00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:25.039
No?

586
00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:36.039
His last reputement in twenty twenty two, two thousand and two.

587
00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:38.039
I'm sorry, yeah, that's when I.

588
00:38:40.800 --> 00:38:41.400
Reports though.

589
00:38:42.199 --> 00:38:44.400
Oh yeah, I see it was two thousand and two.

590
00:38:46.039 --> 00:38:46.239
Oh.

591
00:38:52.320 --> 00:39:00.519
So you've been trying to rehabilitate yourself, yes, sir, all right, yeah,

592
00:39:03.400 --> 00:39:10.159
and I see you are remorseful, yes, sir, O OK.

593
00:39:10.880 --> 00:39:15.280
It affects me what I did a great deal. I

594
00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:19.599
have a malior too. We outtain any clarity with him.

595
00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:24.199
It hurts what I did. How long have you been

596
00:39:24.280 --> 00:39:29.480
incarcerated h since August thirteen, nineteen seventy five.

597
00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:38.000
Yeah, I've read your case several times, like, uh, do

598
00:39:38.039 --> 00:39:43.760
you have anything you want to say about it other

599
00:39:43.880 --> 00:39:44.559
than what you've said.

600
00:39:47.480 --> 00:39:54.000
M's all right, But what I did, I've taken them

601
00:39:54.199 --> 00:39:58.159
shelf help courses to try to come in some claerity

602
00:39:58.199 --> 00:40:05.760
of body. Okay, understand, Thank you, sir, Thank you.

603
00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:07.599
Good question.

604
00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:10.239
Is that any questions?

605
00:40:12.199 --> 00:40:14.760
Yes, sir, I would just like to make a statement

606
00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:18.239
that follows up on the people who spoke to you today.

607
00:40:19.039 --> 00:40:21.360
I'm really in agreement with the things that they said,

608
00:40:22.159 --> 00:40:27.599
that it's hard and twenty two stab wounds of the

609
00:40:27.800 --> 00:40:31.000
kind of things that you can't you can't take back,

610
00:40:31.079 --> 00:40:34.000
you can't undo. And of course we had a member

611
00:40:34.039 --> 00:40:38.800
of law enforcement that were just murdered. Yes, one of

612
00:40:38.840 --> 00:40:44.719
the things that happens is something like that is people say,

613
00:40:44.760 --> 00:40:47.519
I can't take it back, I can't undo it. They

614
00:40:47.599 --> 00:40:50.039
can't feel the empty arms that don't come home in

615
00:40:50.119 --> 00:40:52.119
the evening, that you're able to hug that son of

616
00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:54.800
the human parts of it, that if you put the

617
00:40:54.920 --> 00:40:59.480
human being in the perspective of it, that that I

618
00:40:59.559 --> 00:41:02.280
mean I I had friends that had this happen to them.

619
00:41:02.480 --> 00:41:04.400
And they said they looked at the clob and said, oh,

620
00:41:04.440 --> 00:41:06.599
it's four o'clock. Let me get up and start fixing

621
00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:10.440
suffer and that person. Then they realize they're not coming

622
00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:14.719
home for supper. So I'm sure you learned all of

623
00:41:14.760 --> 00:41:19.119
that in victims awareness, but that's the rest of their life.

624
00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:21.480
So I do agree with.

625
00:41:23.079 --> 00:41:25.880
What I've heard from the colleagues of this man and

626
00:41:26.039 --> 00:41:31.840
the people that represent the state and the community. The

627
00:41:32.000 --> 00:41:33.800
damage that was done was hainous.

628
00:41:37.880 --> 00:41:39.360
Thanks, thank you, Come ang.

629
00:41:40.360 --> 00:41:42.800
Okay, I don't have any questions.

630
00:41:44.079 --> 00:41:49.360
Ready to vote. Okay, what would be to deny? Okay,

631
00:41:49.719 --> 00:41:50.480
it's sables.

632
00:41:50.599 --> 00:41:53.280
My vote is to deny based on the hainous nature

633
00:41:53.320 --> 00:41:54.599
of your multiple primes.

634
00:41:55.079 --> 00:41:55.360
Okay.

635
00:41:56.239 --> 00:41:58.840
I like to thank everyone that showed up here today,

636
00:41:59.400 --> 00:42:01.480
and my vote is also to deny.

637
00:42:02.679 --> 00:42:03.800
I concur with the panel.

638
00:42:03.960 --> 00:42:08.840
My voted to deny, and so I'm telling you that

639
00:42:09.000 --> 00:42:13.960
our pure requestion dated been denied, sir, and continue to

640
00:42:14.599 --> 00:42:15.639
go to Betty you say.

641
00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:21.320
So, there you have it. Thankfully, the board ruled not

642
00:42:21.639 --> 00:42:26.320
to give clemency to Lewis, and Lewis well remained behind bars,

643
00:42:26.400 --> 00:42:29.079
it seems, hopefully for the rest of his life. And hey,

644
00:42:29.199 --> 00:42:32.360
he's old. He's an old man now, although he looked

645
00:42:32.480 --> 00:42:37.639
very in shape, he's been in jail fifty years. And

646
00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:42.639
it's my opinion, you kill a police officer in particular, Really,

647
00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:45.480
if you kill anybody, in my opinion, you don't need

648
00:42:45.559 --> 00:42:48.199
to be running free. But if you kill a police officer,

649
00:42:48.320 --> 00:42:51.920
you should never even get a shot at anything. No parole,

650
00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:55.639
no clemency, no nothing. That's my opinion on it. And

651
00:42:55.800 --> 00:42:58.360
in this case, it looks like this was his one

652
00:42:58.519 --> 00:43:02.480
and only in last shot. Maybe he does regret everything,

653
00:43:03.079 --> 00:43:06.039
like he said in that hearing you just heard. I mean,

654
00:43:06.079 --> 00:43:10.280
I'm sure everybody who has to spend fifty years in

655
00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:15.159
prison regrets what they've done in which they wouldn't have

656
00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:17.199
done it. But you know what they say, don't do

657
00:43:17.320 --> 00:43:20.559
the crime if you can't do the time. Thank you

658
00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:25.800
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659
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661
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662
00:43:39.440 --> 00:43:43.039
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663
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664
00:43:47.920 --> 00:44:13.199
Peace h I walk straight line, shackle change. Oh weesome, Girdie,

665
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:21.559
it's calling my name. There is no mercy and it's

666
00:44:21.679 --> 00:44:29.480
been a tentery juice as the huge stream game wrangler.

667
00:44:29.599 --> 00:44:32.880
Three. I'm here but.

668
00:44:35.360 --> 00:44:37.079
By mere to die.

669
00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:43.599
Inside these walls, inside the wild.

670
00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:50.199
And when the girls I know, it's so.

671
00:44:55.559 --> 00:45:04.000
Moody, angle body all