Nightmare on Cell Block: Halloween Horrors from Inside Prison

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1:31 Hey one, and welcome back to Bloody and Goa, A podcast one and forty two years in the making, the complete story of America's bloodiest Present. I'm Jim Chapman. And look, before I get into today's episode, I got a quick update. We're having some changes to Bloody and Goa. Now, if you listen to Real Life for a Crime Daily on Tuesday, Woody and I discussed some changes that are coming up. That show will be going away on the first of November.

2:23 Hey everyone, and welcome to Real Life Real Crime Daily. I'm Jim Chapman. Name, what do you ever take? And this is part two? Because the lights just flickered on and off, so we're gonna. We never had that happening in all the years. And yeah, man, it's like Jim had a really good statement he said, and look there's no lighting, no storm outside or anything like that. Right, Yeah, well, uh you know what he's been talking about some changes coming and good changes for for the Real Life Real Crime Feed. So let's talk about that, all right. Well, the you know, we've been doing this for a minute, the h and we've had a lot of fun, uh, you know, a lot of great things that have happened the book. You know, you've been super successful. Also during the meantime, you have one of the top shows in the world now it.

3:17 Scandals Files of the Elite, So thank God forbidding. Yeah right, y'all go check that out. But y'all the business side of things, like when Jim and I saw at the show, it was just jem and I and then we got a go involved, and you know, things transpired and what have you. Uh, But you're always trying to improve, improve, seek seek seek different avenues and different things and some things work and some things don't, and some things, you know, they are what they are. But the I'm bringing we did the daily show when the Real Life Crime Original feed and then the wow was a you know, sad thing too, and all that of just bringing the relifful crime back to relifeul Crime.

4:09 Yeah, and mainly the I decided that. The hashtag justice for series is going to be a big part of what I do going forward, which is I'm actually I had shied away with it for so many years because it takes so much. But the I'm actually going to help these families, and I've have cases lined up, et cetera. But it's boots on the ground. Show and that's and that was the point I was I was trying to make earlier before we had the hiccup here. But uh, you know, a lot of. These shows, especially these cold case shows, and at no fault of the people who host them, they just don't have the experience of the knowledge to actually investigate these cases.

4:54 So what they'll do and their goal is to just bring awareness to it. And that's important and that's good. But the difference there between what a you know, a real life real crime or a hashtag justice for brings to the table is that those shows, it's actually investigating it with an investigator that is night and day. If it's it's I think you're right. The difference is the personal connection and I sit with these families, they become my families, and it's hard and soul. And you're invested in it. And at that time when you get emotionally invested. In see this, look y'all.

5:35 The best ship that we ever do is unscripted. I'm going to get to my current he's. And we were just talking. Damn it, I don't even know how to do this. Go ahead and find that and them entertained sing to them. We were talking about before we came in here. However, we're going to tell you all what we had to tell tell you the And then we're like, you know what, since the beginning, we've just been rolling unscripted. People would come in to interview or whatever, and we'd be like, no, the uh, don't tell us save a friend there, because you never know what's going to come out behind the microphone.

6:20 All right, So look at this. This is my bedside table. Now, oh wowe picture. He's showing a picture of a beautiful girl. That's Haley. Wow. So she's the first thing I see when I wake up and the last thing I see before I go to bed. Yeah, And it was courting, and Coco was the same way. Miss Stephanie had sent me her cheerleading picture and her high school graduation picture. And that's my that's my actual case files that on that late yellow legal pad yeah. I spend that every night, you know, before I go to sleep, right, taking more notes on different things. And it's just a lot. And and I think that, you know, like on Mary post Show's case, and I wasn't gonna do it.

7:02 I wasn't gonna do it. I didn't want to, you know, I didn't want. To have to put that kind of energy and hard and everything like according to Coco's And then finally that night, you know, life has been reached out to me, and Mama caare in Klana finally said we please just talk to the sister. It's one of my good friends. And you know, I can't tell mama no, right, Mama Careen, And so I did, and then she told me the story and then send me the picture and I said, let me call you back. And I showed it to my wife and she said, how can you not use your gud giving gifts in your platform that he gave you to not go solve us girls homicide? And we did it, but I hadn't done one since. But we're gonna I'm going in that direction, y'all. There'll still be real life for crime originals. And but the hashtag Justice four is a lot and like this case is out of Atlanta, this one, and even then Louisiana and I had boots on the ground Atlanta.

8:02 And now it's it's it's. Gonna be an ongoing thing. And and you've got a lot going on. And I love doing the Daily Show. It's you know, it's going to y'all, it's gonna be on its own feed. But the. What do you say that it well, if you like those past episodes, the past episodes will be on a new feed. Right right, But I mean, like the basically this is like the Swan song, you know, for Daily and it's it's a sad thing, but it's it's kind of an exciting thing too because the uh, you know, the future is right and Jim and I are still gonna be working together on things with the you know, love them more than anything in the world. Uh, it's been a great, great run, but it's just time to yeah. Yeah, and look, you're rolling hard too, And I know that you're rolling.

9:09 I always said you were the hardest working man the show business, but now you really are. And I get that to you. And you know, it's it's it's been great. Bright Yeah, yeah, it has and and uh, we've been doing. You know, we've been working together for four years or so, coming coming close to five, and we're continue to. Work together on some on things that it's you know, we're always I will always be. Accessible to you, and I know you will always be accessible to me. Yeah. Uh And we know people out there, you know, some people what happened with Jim. And that the same one that ain't the case is past with any I've had, you know, people that we're associated with the show that that some of them just had to be go right and and some of those were definitely from Yeah, some of them were just business and some of them were kind of the farious, but whatever, that is what it is, and it's done. And I wish just people well, but this is not one.

10:14 This is this is something. That if it could be avoided time wise and stuff, and it would be, but it just can't. And I think that you know, we're going to both continue to go on and do great things, uh yeah together, Yes, but certainly I can't wait to see. I know you've got a lot of stuff in the works and a lot and. They got that too, uh uh so, but you'll always been hell of right boy. It has and. I'm a miss coming in and getting my f fau and on the way and coming in the morning was.

10:57 Cold or hot and yeah, and you know, well we'll still maybe every now and then do an episode together or something if if time permits for for both of us. But uh, you know, with these type of shows, and really with this type of industry, it's it's something that you have to constantly evolve, and you have to really pay attention to what your audience wants and real life for Crimes evolving and and uh, in some ways it is going back to its roots, but in some ways is you know, original content that uh features Woody Everton. As it should. Uh. That's how it got started exactly.

11:38 I've always been that guy, you know, like you hustler, you want to branch out and. Do and do and do. But you know, I don't think people understand it's so much more, uh. Than just podcasts. It's all the. Social media and the pages and you know, you know you're in, yeah, the research, and but even like just something simple as going uh and checking from me going and checking the Real Life Real Crime Daily Facebook page. At the end, when I've got seven other Facebook pages, I gotta. Check you know, and and.

12:18 I know you know you always kept that up and you did the posting and everything else. It's just so much more, uh than podcasts. And I'm not complaining. I'm blessed, no doubt about it, and blessed by way beyond anything that I ever dreamed of. And and we were blessed on the Daily Show, I mean all the way around, a lot of fun. You and I didn't have any hiccups. But there were some hiccups in it. I think everybody knows about that, but you know, and the ship got worked out and it is what it is. But you know, I don't know. I'm I'm missing to be there. And we'll let y'all know. I don't know what we call that feeding. I guess the Daily Show, I don't know, but the it'll be anywhere you can listen to a podcast. Yeah, yeah, so if you know it won't be on we'll put a rink put on our socials and stuff of the.

13:22 It won't be on the Original Life Real Crime Link anymore. Yeah, you'd have to go to that, and it will. It won't be the Daily Shows. Won't be updated on that feed. There may be some things I don't know that are placed on there, but the Daily Show won't as you know, it won't be on that right. But you know, y'all have been great in true classic form. Love and appreciate each and every one of y'all, and thank you for listening and liking and sharing. And you know, jim my brother from another mother. I love features so bright. We gotta wear shades.

14:03 And uh, we were so busy. We got to hire some people. And that's a good problem. I had turn the lease. We are busy. That's a good problem to have, and more busy because of y'all. And and and look, just thank you, yeah, look and h when I started this with real life or a crime way back in the day, uh, it was. Just to help and and uh, you know, do what what I felt like I was good at, which was uh the world's best editor and and and so that kind of branched into all these other things that I had an opportunity, and I was blessed to get those opportunities and very thankful.

14:47 And you got Envision podcast Studio is now of course local leaders, you got Scandalous, you got got you know, soap producing so many different. Shows and it all it's same thing. That I was talking about earlier, Like we're talking about branching out, expanding, and you know my daddy says about that. What eediot, you got it or you don't. You got the driver, you don't and it doesn't. You know, this is not a failure for the Daily Show because the numbers were still there and everything else. It's a it's a it's a failure on time. And uh, I don't know, he's spent a time and circumstances I guess in in wanting to and going to branch out and in these other directions.

15:36 Yeah, and look, let me let me say it. And I touched on it earlier. But with the Justice War series and the way the Wood he does it, which is totally different than any other podcast or does it. Uh, it requires a lot of time and it requires you know, he's going to these places. He's getting really emotionally invested, which is it's hard to turn your brain in another direction anytime you get emotionally invested with something, So you know, that's a big That's a big part of it too, is uh, you only have twenty four hours in a day, so you know you'll still be getting entertaining content from from everybody that's ever been affiliated.

16:17 With this show to just being in a different way and form. Right, Uh, it's gonna be really, it's gonna be love. It's me something to see, I'm no doubt about. It's sad, sad, but excited and blessed you know, to have done this and the watch it growing morph. And and yeah, and let's talk about Bloody and Gola real quick. So Bloody and Gola, which is more of a passion for me and more than anything else. We both just love that history. Well, we love history and historical prisons. And especially first year in existence one people. Yeah, it's done a lot with that history. Yeah, and it's still going strong.

17:01 Uh so what are he is still going to be a you know, owner of that show, just like me. Uh, and he's because of time, he's going to be more kind of in and out of that show. Which which I have been lea. Yeah, well it's both of our faults, but that was a good signal to both of us that our time is just getting pulled in so many different directions that so if you know, continue to listen to it and and what do you be on there? We'll try to get him on every every couple of months or every month or so, and. You have the uh I still trip. Yeah, he's the guy that well, like I say his name, he told me, uh, I saw him at a dove hunt and he said he said, uh, he said, man, it ain't the same. He said, I can't. He's an ex something up there. He said, I can't just do it like I used to because all the changes are coming down and administration and you headed the department and whatever. Yeah, whatever system of being worked on. And there'll be a million stories that can come from that.

18:09 Yeah. Yeah, there's no doubt about it. So, uh so we're gonna keep as many shows around as we can, and we know y'all love that stuff, and uh they'll be there'll be more upcoming. I'm looking forward to it, I think real life. Look, I was a fan first, right, you know, before I ever got affiliated with the show. I was a fan of the show. And I appreciate it and I love you much and yeah it's been fun, bro, but it ain't. We ain't done now we all right? Well, all right, peeps, so now you got the inside scoop. You got inside scoop and love I guess so one time I love and appreciate each and every one of y'all, and thank you for liking and listening and sharing and hey all that good podcast.

19:00 Podcast or shit. Until next time. I'm Jim Chapman and I'm what do you Everton. We are your host of Real Life, Real Crime Daily Peace Booms. So there it was some changes coming to obviously several things that we do. But one thing that is not going to change. Bloody Ain't Goola is not going anywhere. And coming up, we're going to focus on some series episodes with Bloody Angola that I think are going to knock your socks off, So get ready for that. And look, it's Halloween. This is a Halloween special episode. But I wanted to get all of that out of the way prior to bringing you this, and it'll be a little abbreviated compared to the length of our normal episodes, because I know all of you either want to get out there with your kids and trigg or treat or maybe you are like me and your kids are grown, but you hand out candy and you enjoy seeing all the cool costumes and stuff like that, and I want you to be able to get to that. I've got some really fun different stuff for you. You know, with all these crime shows, we talk about a lot of things that are disturbing, for lack of a better term, sometimes, So I love doing these holiday episodes where it's a little bit funner, a little bit lighter, I guess you could say. But with Halloween it's also a little bit scarier.

20:22 So we're going to talk about two things that I researched. One of them is America's most haunted prisons in jails. And let me tell you, there is nothing out there better than a haunted prison if you're someone that's into Halloween. And so I kind of compiled a top ten list of the most haunted prisons in jails in the United States, and I'm going to start with number ten and work my way backwards and kind of give you a little bit, just a couple of paragraphs of a history on each of these. So today I'm going to be like the David Letterman, the top ten list of Halloween podcasts.

21:02 So here we go. Number ten, Missouri State Penitentiary. Now that's in Jefferson City, Missouri. And believe it or not, the Missouri State Penitentiary is known currently as the Walls they copied off of Louisiana State Penitentiary. Y'all, we were the Walls, how dare they? So? It's also known as the Walls and was constructed in the early eighteen thirties to serve the newly emitted state of Missouri. The earliest prisoners made the bricks that the first walls were built from, which was common during that time prison labor. Right. The initial prison population consisted of one guard, one warden, fifteen prisoners, and a foreman for the brick making operation with an assistant. Eleven of the fifteen prisoners were from Saint Louis and all were incarcerated for larceny theft, except for one who was in for stabbing a man during a drunken brawl. Needless to say, that prison grew many times over the years. It eventually closed, but get this two thousand and four, so it had a long history.

22:14 Now. During its operation, it saw many infamous prisoners, including Charles pretty Boy, Floyd, James Earl Ray, Bobby Greenlease, kidnappers Carl Austin Hall, and Bonnie Haiti. They were actually executed at that prison. In nineteen fifty four, there was a major riot at the penitentiary, the Missouri State Highway Patrol, the National Guard from Missouri, and the police departments from Jefferson City, Saint Louis and Kansas City were called to help stop that disturbance. And when it was all over, four inmates had been killed, twenty nine were injured, and there had been one attempted suicide. During the riot, four guards had been seriously injured, and several big buildings have been burned.

23:01 During its operation, forty inmates were executed in the gas chamber. Time magazine once called it get thus the bloodiest forty seven acres in America. They're copying off of Louisiana State Penitentiary again, except for we're a hell of a lot more than forty seven acres around here now. Since its closure of the penitentiary has become a hotspot for pair and normal activity. Staff members and visitors actually reported dozens of eerie encounters with lingering spirits which had been seen, heard, and encountered firsthand. So that's number ten on the less number nine Wyoming Territorial Prison. That's in Laramie, Wyoming. The westward expansion of the railroad brought more than money in high times to the people of Laramie. It also brought a score of unsavory men and women in a crime rate that rivaled much larger Eastern cities. As a result, the why Yoming Territorial Prison was built as a federal penitentiary in Laomie in eighteen seventy two. The facility was plagued with problems from the start, with a fire in eighteen seventy three and a number of escapes.

24:13 Of the forty four. Prisoners accepted in the first two years of the operation, eleven escaped. By eighteen seventy seven, the prison was overcrowded, and as its reputation worsened, changes were made in A second sale block was constructed. It became a state prison from eighteen ninety to nineteen oh one. There were at least five sales for female inmates and several solitary confinement cells. Soon to be famous outlaw Butch Cassidy was incarcerated here from eighteen ninety four to eighteen ninety six. After its closure in nineteen oh three, the prison was given to the University of Wyoming, which used it for livestock breeding experiments until nineteen eighty nine. It opened to the public as a hit historic site two years later and stories of ghost begin to circulate. With more than one thousand inmates housed there over the years, it's to be expected that some of the prisoners of guards might linger behind. However, there's one prisoner who is more active than the others.

25:16 His name is Julius Greenwald, and he was sent to the prison for the eighteen ninety seven murderer of his wife and prison Loar states that Greenwald was adept to making cigars and convincing prison staff to allow him to make and sell cigars while incarcerated. He allegedly made the cigars from his cell on the third floor, a cell that was removed during renovation of the site. Allegedly, Greenwald's spirit did not appreciate this at all, and he has manifested as a phantom cigar smell at the prison ever since. How about that. And we're going to get to number eight, and that is West Virginia Penitentiary that's in Moundsville, West Virginia. In that the prison was built on the edge of Moundsville.

26:02 This was in eighteen sixty six. The prison remained open for one hundred and twenty nine years, and it finally closed down in nineteen ninety five. During that time, the structure housed thousands of prisoners. Many lost their lives there through both state sanctioned executions and during prison violence. Since its closure, the prison had become one of the most haunted sites in the country. Staff members and visitors alike have reported ghosts in the north Hall, where the most dangerous inmates are housed, and the execution chamber, where Old Sparky sent many to its early grave, and the whole a brutal solitary confinement area that often drove inmates to insanity and suicide. Ghost Hunters have flocked to the former penitentiary over the years, and visitors claimed to have experienced the sound of phantom footsteps, voices, noises that have no explanation, cold chills, and an overwhelming fee of panic.

27:01 How about that? And we're gonna go up pot of Watamee County Jail. And this is in Council Bluff's, Iowa, And it was built in eighteen eighty five, and that jail is one of the most unusual houses of incarceration in America. The jail has a three tier cell block with ten cells on each tier. It was originally designed to rotate continuously throughout the night by means of a water wheel in the basement, so it earned the nickname of the squirrel cage Jail. In this way, all the prisoners could be watched from a central location. Unfortunately, the forty five ton cell block was simply too heavy to work right, and it became stuck frequently. Eventually, the jailers gave up on the plan and the nightguard had to be hired. The cylinder continued to be used until at nineteen sixty when a prisoner died in his cell and the cell block jammed, trapping the body in the cell for several days. After that, cell door were cut into every cell. The jail was closed down in nineteen sixty nine, and during its history four deaths occurred within its walls. One man died of a heart attack, another in a fall when he tried to write his name on the ceiling. Another hanged himself in a cell, in the last after an incident in which an officer actually shot himself in the confusion of protecting the jail from an angry mob during the farmer's Holiday strike of nineteen thirty two. It's no surprise that these unlucky individuals along with others are believed to still

28:34 linger that jail, and we'll go to Crown Point, Indiana in Lake County Jail, and the Lake County Jail is located in the county seat of Crown Point. It was built in nineteen oh eight and enlarged twenty years later. At that time, county sheriffs were required to live at the jail, and so the combined residents in jail included all the facilities needed for its purpose as a law enforcement institution. Located within the walls where the family's living area warden's residence, department offices, one hundred and fifty cells, maximum security accommodations, institutional kitchen, food storage, heating and cooling systems. They even had a barber shop and a garage. It was considered to be one of the finest in Indiana and it was thought to be escape proof. However, on March third of nineteen thirty four, gangster John Dillinger proved it to be otherwise when he made a daring escape that gave the jail its infamy. The jail remained in operation until the nineteen seventies, when it became a historic site as restoration has continued over the last twenty years.

29:42 Stories have emerged about the haunting in the jail. Apparitions have been seen in the sales and corridors, Strange photographs have been taken, doors open and closed by themselves, lights turn on and off, and dis embodied footsteps and voices have often been reported by volunteers and staff alike. Pretty freaky. And We're going to go to Chicago, Illinois, and I'm gonna tell you about a haunted police station. It's known as Maxwell Street Police Station. And this police station is known as Bloody Maxwell. How about that because of the escalating crime rate in the area. It was constructed in eighteen eighty nine, and at that time, the surrounding part of the city was home to thousands of Italian immigrants, including the Jenni brothers, who partnered with al Capone's organization during Prohibition to make bootleg liquor within blocks of the police station. It became a notorious police station known for corruption, bribery, brutality, and torture, and many law breakers never left the basement dungeon quote unquote alive. The station closed down in nineteen ninety seven and became to be used by the security officers for the nearby University of Illinois Chicago campus. It's currently been used for filming of the television show Chicago PD.

31:05 Although the cops and criminals of the station's passed are long gone, legend goes they still linger there, especially those who brutalized and killed and were killed in the dungeon. Screams have been reported coming from the basement, along what moaning, crying, and the sounds of rattling bars and handcuff chains. Ohio Penitentiary and this was formerly in Columbus, Ohio. This penitentiary was opened in eighteen thirty four and first condemned by reformers in the early nineteen hundreds. It was not closed down until nineteen seventy nine, and the prison has since been demolished, but haunting memories of it remained. During its years of operation, the prison saw scores of death from fire, outbreaks of disease, murder, and executions in the state's electric chair, but nothing matched the horror of the fire that in golf that prison in April of nineteen thirty. This fire swept through the West block of the penitentiary. It killed three hundred and twenty two inmates in a single night.

32:11 While the prison was still open, inmates complained of ghostly sightings and eerie happenings, but when the buildings were finally torn down, tails quickly spread of apparitions among the ruins. Eventually, the prism was replaced by a sports arena, which is also rumored to be haunted. Stay away from Ohio Penitentiary, and we're going to stay in Ohio, but we're gonna go to Mansfield, Ohio for this one. And this is Ohio State Reformatory. And the Ohio State Reformatory was actually made famous by the Shawshank Redemption, which was filmed there. Was opened in eighteen ninety six as a prison for criminals too old for juvenile facilities and not hardened enough for the penitentiary. It saw untold thousands of prisoners during its years of operation, and while once applauded as a place to be humanly reformed for first time offenders, the conditions deteriorated to the point that it became known for abuse, torture, and murder. Already considered overcrowded in humane by the nineteen thirties, the massive prison was kept open until nineteen eighty six, even after a federal lawsuit was filed by the inmates, citing that it was unfit for human occupation. Since the closing of the reformatory, stories have circulated that it is haunted by the tormented spirits of former inmates, guards and prison officials who simply never left. Apparitions take place in the cells where the inmates once lived, suffered, and sometimes died.

33:46 One of the resonant ghosts is reported to be Helen Gladoc, the wife of Arthur Gladick. She died at the local hospital in nineteen fifty after a leaded handgun fell from a closet shelf in the wardens of apartment and went off. Her spirit has allegedly remained in the apartment ever since, often manifesting as the smell of perfume. Spooky. Now, I'm going to give you the top two and we'll start with number two and you probably expected this one. Alcatraz in San Francisco, California, The Rock, the name given to Alcatraz Penitentiary, was the ultimate American prison. It was the place where scores of the country's worst criminal offenders, blood letters, bad men, and escape artists called the end of the line although it started as a military prison for twenty nine years, the prison kept the country's most notorious lawbreakers, including al Capone, Doc Barker, George, Machine Gun Kelly, and others confined behind stone walls. The initial prison was built in eighteen fifty nine, but fell into disrepair by the nineteen twenties. It was reopened in nineteen thirty three to be an escape per federal prison, and it was the brutal place of punishment and confinement with few privileges, Suicide, murder, and even insanity became common. In nineteen forty six, several inmates attempted a violent and bloody escape from the rock,

35:16 but failed. There were a handful of other attempts, but only one successful attempt. In nineteen sixty two, Win three bank robber, using handmade rubber rafts and dummies with real human hair, vanished into the dark waters of the Bay. Alcatraz was closed down one year later in nineteen sixty three. Regarded as one of America's most haunted places, ghosts have been widely reported ever since, even by staff members of the National Park Service, which now operates that property. Ghosts have been sighted and along with strange sounds screams, yells, weeping, and even eerie music. And that brings us to number one on this list. And there is no debate here.

36:00 All over Google, everybody says this is the most haunted It is Eastern State Penitentiary in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, founded by Quakers in eighteen twenty nine, who envisioned the Stone Castle as a place where criminals could become penitent for their crimes, hence the name penitentiary. That's where that comes from. The prison was a place of total isolation. Inmates were confined in windowless rooms and allowed no contact with any living person. Many of them were driven insane by the solitude. Punishments for breaking the rules were extreme, and suicides became common. Solitary confinement was ended in the eighteen seventies, and a century later the prison was closed down. Since that time, ghost stories and paranormal encounters they become commonplace. Apparitions had been seen, mysterious footsteps heard, and strange sounds reported, and believe it or not, Eastern State Penitentiary is now like a haunted house, like they do it up for Halloween, and it's something you want to take a trip to look any Pennsylvania listeners out there, let me know if you've ever been to Eastern State Penitentiary, tell me about it.

37:13 We'll pass it on to the rest of the listeners. So that is your top ten America's most haunted prisons in jail. And I got one more cool thing for you today on Halloween, and that is I'm going to give you a list of terrifying convicts who committed murders on Halloween night. And these are in no particular order, but I'm going to tell you about two friends, Leslian Mazario and Adrian Asagna, and they were stabbed late one Halloween night. Those two and their friend Lorne Menzina, we're busy handing out candy the trick or treaters in Napa, California.

38:00 On Halloween Night of two thousand and four, at around eleven pm. The three women went to bed, not knowing there will be one more visitor that night. Means awoke to a scream in the upstairs bedroom, ran out of the house and drove away, leaving her two friends behind. Sadly, those two friends were stabbed to death upstairs. Eric Matthew Copel, a friend of one of the victims, eventually turned himself in and confessed to the murdyrs, though he never told anyone his motive. No One Copel is serving a life sentence without the possibility of parole. In nineteen seventy nine, Shirley Ledford was hitchhiking home from a Halloween party back in the seventies, you hitchhiked when two men picked her up.

38:54 They were in a dingy van. Little did she know. The two men were known as the Toolbox Killers. Lawrence Betaker and Roy Norris were famous for picking up female hitchhikers and torturing them with tools typically found in a toolbox. They often took pictures of the victims during their slayings. After torturing Ledford, they dropped her body on a stranger's lawn, and Leedford became the pay's fifth and final victim after a friend turned them in. Betaker was sentenced to death but died in twenty nineteen of natural causes, and Norris, who cooperated during the investigation, was given forty five years to life. And We'll go back to Halloween of nineteen seventy five and fifteen year old Martha Moxley left her Connecticut home to attend a costume party on Halloween Mourning, she was found dead in the backyard, beaten to death by a golf club. Twenty five years later, a guy by the name of Michael Skagel, who was also fifteen at the time the slang, was convicted of the murder and sent usd to twenty years to life in prison. However, he maintained his innocence and on May fourth of twenty eighteen, the Connecticut Supreme Court vacated his conviction, and in twenty twenty the case was actually reopened. And the next one I'm going to tell you about I remember very well.

40:22 This happened in nineteen ninety two and it was really close to home in New Orleans where a Japanese exchange student never made it to his Halloween party. And if you're a Louisiana lessoner, most of you are probably familiar with this. When Yoshihiro Hattori, a Japanese exchange student, went out on Halloween ninety in nineteen ninety two, he was heading to a party in New Orleans, but he wasn't familiar with the neighborhood he was in. Ha Tori struggled to find the address to the event, and when He eventually thought he had found the house the Halloween party was at. He knocks on the door, he doesn't get an answer, so he walks back towards his car. Suddenly the door of the house opened and Toy said, we are here for the party. But the man in the doorway shot atory with a revolver. Now it turns out Toori was at the wrong of dress, and when police questioned the homeowner, a guy by the name of Rodney Pears, he claimed he had been scared and he thought the student was trespassing on his property with criminal intent. Pears was charged with manslaughter, but invoked what's done as the Castle Doctor, in which Americans can claim they have the right to apply lethal means to protect their homes. And believe it or not, he was found not guilty by a jury, and I didn't agree with that decision at all.

41:47 I remember being disgusted by that. Sometimes I feel like he's still in America. Hatori's father told the news someday he'll be back home. I say to myself, what a sad story. And I'm gonna tell you. Look, I'm the first one to say protect your freaking property and all of that stuff but this was not that situation. This kid was not armed. He went to the door. He was walking back to his car and turned around and said, hey, we're here for the party. It was just awful, horrible situation. But we'll bring you to the next one. We're gonna tell you about Peter Fabano. He died and what police said was a crime of passion in the late fifties on Halloween night, this was actually nineteen fifty seven, so him and his wife Betty Fabiana, they go to sleep and they thought they were finished with trick or truders.

42:40 But in the middle of the night, the doorbell to their La home rings. Peter got out of bed and brought candy to the door, thinking it's a trick or truder. On the doorstep was a woman wearing a mask. She raised her hand, which was in a paper bag, and shot him in the chest. He died instantly. Police eventually arrested a woman by the name of Joan Rebel, who reportedly had a sexual relationship with Peter's wife, Betty. It's believed Rebel talked another woman, Goldland Piser, into murdering Peter. Rebel was convicted of second degree murder along with piser and was sentenced to five years to life in prison.

43:24 Five years to life. Haven't heard that one too much. Both women were later released and Betty was never tried for any connection in her husband's death. And we'll go to nineteen eighty one. On Halloween night and sister Tadna Benn's body was found naked in a convent in Texas. The other nuns in the house, they noticed a broken window in the community room, so they called the police and authorities found Ben's clothing and a knife under the bed. Meanwhile, in autopsy revealed the numb was stabbed, strangled, and sexually ast It's horrible. Police arrested a man who lived across the street by the name of Johnny Garrett after a witness saw him running from the convent that evening. He was convicted and sentenced to death in nineteen ninety two.

44:12 His last words get this were reported to be I'd like to thank my family for loving me and taking care of me. And the rest of the world can kiss my ass. Well, Johnny Garrett, you can kiss my ass? How about that? And we're going to go to New York for the next one. And look, Halloween night trick or treat. Right might get your house rolled, you might get it egged, whatever. In this case, throwing eggs on Halloween night, which is typically known as a harmless prank, but in nineteen ninety eight, it turned deadly. A twenty one year old Bronx residence by the name of Carl Jackson and his girlfriend. They go to pick up their son. From a party.

44:53 Teenagers throw eggs at the car and piss me off too. Jackson gets out of the car to yell at the pranksters. In response, one of the teenagers pulls out a gun and shoots Jackson through the head. He dies instantly. Seventeen year old Curtis Stirling was charged with second degree murder and criminal possession of firearm. He was convicted and is serving twenty years in prison. He receives a card in the mail every Halloween that reads, I'm glad you're still there. Get this from Jackson's mother. That's pretty sweet. Let me tell you about William Lesky. He killed his family members on Halloween. In twenty ten, sixteen year old Devin Griffin. He comes home on Halloween to play video game after attending church and spending the previous night sleeping out, He noticed that his Michigan home was a little bit too quiet, so he goes to check on his family members.

45:50 Griffin proceeded to find his stepfather in bed covered in blood. When police arrived, they found two more bodies, Griffin's mother and Griffin's brother. At least eventually learned the murderer was Griffin's stepbrother, William Lisky. Liskey beat his older stepbrother Derrick Griffin with a hammer, shot his father, William Lesky, five times, and then sexually assaulted and shot his stepmother, Susan Liskey. Liskey pleaded guilty to three counts of aggravated murder to avoid the death penalty, but was found dead in his jail cell in twenty fifteen from a self inflicted wound, and just quickly one more, a nineteen eighty one Halloween night brutal killing that remains unsolved. Photographer Ronald Sisman and Smith College student Elizabeth Plattsman were beaten in their Manhattan apartment.

46:46 This was in nineteen eighty one on Halloween Night. Before being shot dead, the apartment was completely ransacked, but nothing was missing, and to this day that remains unsolved. I want to wish every single one of you a happy Halloween. I hope you enjoyed this episode. Look for some big time stuff to about to hit for Bloody Angola Podcast. Stick with us, it's gonna be good and until next time, I'm Jim Chapman, your host of Bloody Angola, a podcast of one and forty two years in the making, the complete story of America's bloodiest present.

47:31 Peace, a Wall. Street line, shackle and change. It's calling my name, there is no mercy and this being a tentery juice as the hull string game Rangle three, I'm here.

48:15 For if I'm here to die. Inside these walls, inside the wild And when theirs I know it's abody Angle, Obody Angle.