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Sept. 20, 2026

50 Shades of Evil: Darrell Brooks Jr.

50 Shades of Evil: Darrell Brooks Jr.

On the afternoon of November 21, 2021, downtown Waukesha, Wisconsin, was packed for the city’s annual Christmas parade. Kids in baseball uniforms. Bank employees handing out candy. The Milwaukee Dancing Grannies in sequins and pompoms. Then a red Ford Escape came down the route and did not stop.

In the span of a few blocks, Darrell Edward Brooks Jr. struck dozens of people. Six were killed. More than sixty were injured. The dead ranged from 8-year-old Jackson Sparks, marching with his brother and the Waukesha Blazers, to 81-year-old Wilhelm Hospel, walking with the dance group his wife belonged to. Three members of the Dancing Grannies — Virginia Sorenson, 79; LeAnna Owen, 71; and Tamara Durand, 52, in her first parade with the troupe — never made it home. Jane Kulich, 52, was walking with a Citizens Bank float.

This episode reconstructs that Sunday: the domestic fight earlier that day, the low cash bail that had put Brooks back on the street, the barricades he ignored, and the five-block path of the SUV. It also traces the two decades that came before it — battery, domestic violence, prior incidents involving vehicles, and open Milwaukee felony cases that never kept him locked up.

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I walk a straight line, shackled chain. Oh, gruesome Gertie

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is calling my name. There is no mercy in this penitentiary.

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Just ask the.

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Hill string gang, wrangle the three.

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To die inside these walls inside the wild and when

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the wolf cries.

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Hey everyone and welcome back to Bloody Angola and another

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Fifty Shades of Evil episode. Today I'm going to bring

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you back to a horrific event and it starts with

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music and a parade. Now before the barricades were nothing

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but painted wood and good intentions, there were kids dancing.

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baseball jerseys, grandmothers in sequined dresses. Before a red Ford

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Escape became evidence, it was just a car on a

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Sunday in suburban Wisconsin. In Waukesha, Wisconsin was doing what

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it had done for decades, lining Main Street for Christmas.

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So let's go to November 21st of 2021. It's late afternoon.

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It's getting dark, but it's not quite dark yet. In

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the 58th annual Waukesha Christmas Parade is rolling the way

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a small American city wants the holiday to roll, right? Food, bands,

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folding chairs, people who knew each other by first name.

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But at 4.39 p.m., that ordinary afternoon ended. An SUV

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drove through the route and it didn't stop. Six people

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would die. More than 60 more would be hurt. 18

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of the injured were children ages 3 to 16. 10

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of those children went into intensive care. Three sets of

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siblings died. were among the wounded. One of those siblings,

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an eight-year-old boy marching with his baseball team and his

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12-year-old brother, wouldn't even survive the week. And the man

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behind the wheel of that vehicle was Daryl Edward Brooks Jr.

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What led to this, and why did no one see

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the warning signs of this evil act? That's what we're

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going to cover today, so let's get into it. And

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as I told you, February 21st, 1982, Daryl Edward Brooks Jr.

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Is born.

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Now, the childhood that follows is in Milwaukee. He grows

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up in a house ran by women. His mother is

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Dawn Woods. She's a Christian woman with Southern roots. Relatives

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on that side even include ministers. He has an older sister.

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And there's not in any reliable sense, a father in

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the daily work of raising him. He did have a father, obviously.

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He was an alcoholic. And this was a problem in

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many generations of that family. As a matter of fact,

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they would describe it as being in the male bloodline

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later on. The family struggled and lived on welfare for

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most of his childhood, and Daryl's mother worked two jobs because...

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One of the adults, being the father in this story,

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had chosen not to. Now Dawn would say later it

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was a loving house. She would say her son did

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not come from a bad family. What she will never

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say is that the father stayed and got sober because

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he did not. He did not stay and he did

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not get sober. And young Daryl watched that. Now, around 11,

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his grandmother dies. And later, Daryl would claim he went

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into a deep depression. What doctors called in the mid

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1990s manic depression or bipolar disorder. And at 12 years old,

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Daryl is admitted to a mental hospital. He's put on medication.

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He attempts suicide more than once, and he also struggled

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in school. Now, Milwaukee in those years where he lived,

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pretty tough neighborhood, full of drugs, full of prostitution. And

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he would later say that many of the boys around

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him would never see 18, either having been killed or

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If they saw 18, they were already in jail. So

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by the middle of the 90s, a medical file already

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existed with his mental state. But a criminal file did

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not exist, at least until his junior year of high school.

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He's 17 at that time. He gets into a fight.

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He pulls out a knife and he actually slashes a

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man's face, which of course would lead to his arrest.

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An eventual sentence to six months in jail. He then

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gets released and he's placed on 18 months of probation.

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Now at this point, he is 18 years old. Then

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in 2002, another arrest in Milwaukee County, this time for

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possession of THC. He pleads guilty. He gets 50 days

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in jail with work release and he gets his driver's

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license suspended for six months. In 2003, again in Milwaukee County,

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he gets arrested, this time for resisting and obstructing an officer,

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and he gets 20 more days in jail. In February

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of 2005, on his 23rd birthday in Manitowoc County, he

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is charged with obstruction, and he fails to appear in court,

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so a bench warrant gets issued. In that same year,

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he also gets a disorderly conduct ticket doesn't pay the fine,

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and so he serves yet another 30 days in jail. Daryl,

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pretty aware that the police in Wisconsin and the courts

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in Wisconsin are catching on to him, he leaves Wisconsin.

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and he heads to Reno, Nevada, looking for a fresh start.

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So let's go to September 28th of 2006. He's 24

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at this time, and police arrest him in what's known

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as Sparks, Wisconsin. The charge is statutory sexual seduction in

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contributing to the delinquency of a minor, a 15-year-old girl.

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He apparently got this girl pregnant, and he tells the

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police what you would expect him to tell the police.

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He said he thought she was older. He said she

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had him fooled and that she should be an actress.

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He said he did not know until she was pregnant

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how old she was and that she withheld her age

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because she knew that he wouldn't have stayed. So going

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into 2007, he is convicted of that sex offense with

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a minor and he's required to register as a sex offender.

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And the court tells him to stay away from the

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victim forever. but he doesn't stay away. Of course, he

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gets incarcerated, and from the county jail, he steals a

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phone card and calls her multiple times, Then, after his release,

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he actually confronts her at a bus stop. The police

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become aware of this, and with that stunt, he goes

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back to jail. So on July 9th of 2007, while

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still in jail in Nevada, he writes to Judge Robert Perry,

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and he tells this judge that he grew up with

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no father, he was on welfare, he had a rough start,

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he was beat when he was younger, just all this bullshit.

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All the things you would expect to garner as much

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sympathy as possible. And the judge didn't buy it. He's

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still sitting in jail. But eventually, he does get released.

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But in 2009, just about a year later, Nevada marks

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him as what's known as noncompliant on a sex offender registry. Apparently,

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he did not return the annual paperwork. And the address

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that they had on file was no longer accurate. He

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had moved since that time. He also had a paternity

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warrant out on him due to a child that he

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fathered and was not paying child support. Imagine that. So

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he gets locked up again. And of course, He gets

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released again. Then on February of 2010 in Wood County, Wisconsin,

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a woman tells police he got in an argument with her.

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He shoved her to the ground and grabbed her throat.

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The charges that he is charged with are strangulation and suffocation,

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as well as criminal damage to property and battery for this.

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He pleads no contest to strangulation and the other counts,

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they're dismissed. And he gets a whopping 90 days in

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jail and work release, along with three years probation for this.

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And the conditions of his release include counseling, prescribed medication,

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and no contact with the victim. And I want you

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to look at this. This is a pattern, right? This

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guy has already got a criminal record longer than most

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people will accrue in a lifetime, even when they're bad people.

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But it's a pattern. He's figured out, I can pretty

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much do whatever I want, and I'm only going to get,

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you know, six months in jail, three months in jail.

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It's ridiculous, the revolving door with this guy at this time.

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Of course, he doesn't learn, right? Then on March 25th

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of 2011 in Milwaukee, he gets pulled over for a

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seatbelt violation. He pulls over, the policeman gets out, and

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then he takes off as the policeman's getting out. The

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policeman was actually in front of him, not behind him

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at the stop. The policeman claims Brooks attempted to run

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over him, and that leads to a resisting arrest and

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obstruction charge. Probably should have been an attempted murder charge

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if you ask me. But for that, he gets a

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whopping 37 days in jail. That's it for trying to

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run over a police officer. The rest of 2011 and

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early 2012, even more arrest, possession of THC again, misdemeanor

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bail jumping, more THC, sentences of 180 days at a

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time for these, and he's just in and out constantly.

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He writes to a judge on the child support issues

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he was having, and get this, He writes that the

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reason he cannot pay child support is because he keeps

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getting incarcerated. He said that's why the money's not there. Now,

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imagine that. This dude is blaming the fact that he

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cannot pay child support on the fact that he keeps

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breaking the law and getting caught. You can't make that

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shit up. So eventually he's released again. And on November

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of 2012, Nevada runs a sex offender sweep. Officers go

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to the last address that Brooks gave them. And it's

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a vacant lot inside a mobile home park. The property

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manager puts it in writing. He is not a resident.

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He has never been a resident in the registry, which

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is supposed to be kind of a leash for him

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so they can keep tabs on him. The address he

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had not only didn't exist at the time, it never existed. Now,

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what the police didn't know is he was not even

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in Nevada anymore. He was back in in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

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But this guy, he sucks at being a criminal, if

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you ain't figured that out, and it's not long before

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he is arrested again in Milwaukee, and he's charged with

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failing to register, failing to tell Nevada that he moved,

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and he posts bail, but he does not go back

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to court, and a warrant is issued. And five years later,

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he was still not picked up for that warrant. So

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let's go to July 24th of 2020. This is in Milwaukee,

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and he's living with his mother and his nephew at

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the time. Now, he and his nephew, they get in

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a fight over a cell phone. Nephew leaves with a friend,

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and Daryl walks into the front yard with a gun.

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And as his nephew is leaving with this friend, he

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fires at them. Police... Get called. They find Brooks at

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the house. He's on an air mattress. And right near

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where he was laying on that air mattress, police find

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a Beretta 9mm. They run that gun and figure out

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it's stolen. They also find three multicolored pills that test Beretta.

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positive for methamphetamine. So detectives take him back to the station.

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They interview him and he blames his son for the

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stolen guns. He also offers to become an informant for

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those drug pills that he had, that methamphetamine. And he says, look,

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if I can avoid being locked up, I'll tell you

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who sold me all that. He's ready to sell everybody out.

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The police, they're not interested. They charge him with two

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counts of second-degree reckless endangering safety while armed and one

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count of possession of a firearm by a felon. Cash

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bail was set at $ 10, 000, and of course, he ain't

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got that. So he sits in jail. Now, in August

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of 2020, that bail, for whatever reason, is adjusted down

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to $ 7, 500. But that's cool. That's okay, because he ain't

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got $ 7, 500 either. So he remains in jail, which is

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the best place for this guy. And in February of 2021,

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the state, they're ready for trial. But the defense was not.

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And for reasons I don't think Anyone knows his bail

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gets cut again, this time to just $ 500. So you

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went from $ 10, 000 to $ 500 and he's able to post

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that $ 500 bail and he walks out of that 2020

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gun case on bond. So let's go to late May

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of 2021. He's in Union City, Georgia. He's at what's

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known as Country Hearth Inn, and he's there with a

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girlfriend and a person in the next room. Just another patron.

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They didn't know this guy. They hear an argument through

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the wall between Brooks and his girlfriend. They also hear

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what they determined as punching. a male punching a female

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inside of this room. So this guy in the next room,

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he confronts, he goes and bangs on the door and

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he confronts Brooks. The police get called, but it's just

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a misdemeanor battery charge. So he's released, and he's not

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George's problem for long. He goes back to Wisconsin. Now,

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about six months later, in November of 2021, in Milwaukee

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at a gas station, more issues arrive. Brooks gets into

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an argument and punches his then-girlfriend and the mother of

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his child, Erica Patterson. Then he runs over her and...

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in a red Ford Escape, and that's going to play

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a big part later on. Now, she told police she

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believed he was trying to kill her, and he was

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charged with felony second-degree reckless endangering safety. Crazy to me.

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He tried to run over her, and he's getting these

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small charges relative to what he is doing, but all

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this would be a key later on. You notice this

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is the second time he's tried to run over someone. First,

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the police officer, now his girlfriend. So bail gets set

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at a measly $ 1, 000 for this. He posts that bail.

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This is on November 19th of 2021, and he was

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released from jail. So let's go to two days later,

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November 21st of 2021. Brooks drives from Milwaukee to Waukesha,

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Wisconsin that afternoon, and he's in his mother's Ford Escape,

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Red Ford Escape, to meet Patterson. They argued on the

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phone and they messaged throughout the day, arguing with each other.

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He meets her at what is known as Frame Park. Now,

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according to her, he punched her in the face. It

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leaves her eyes swollen. And he actually drove around with

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her in the car in this Red Escape. And he

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is just continuing to punch her while he's driving. He

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then grabs her phone out of her hand because she

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threatens to call the police and she jumps out of

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the car. He then, for whatever reason, calls her roommate,

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a guy named Corey. He responds to the area near

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Frame Park in a physical as well as a verbal

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confrontation followed between Brooks and this guy. The fight gets

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reported to police. This is around 4.30 p.m. And police

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would later say Brooks left that scene shortly before police arrived.

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And that's important to note because he was not being

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chased by police. He was already gone when he reached

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the parade that was going on in that county. Now,

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that parade had started at 4 p.m. along Main Street.

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They had marching bands. They had what's known as the

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Milwaukee Dancing Grannies. They had youth sports teams. They had,

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you know, all the groups that you would assume would

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be in a parade. And about 30 minutes in, around 4.39 p.m.,

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Brooks drives that red Ford Escape past the barricades and

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onto the parade route. And he is going 40 miles

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per hour. Witnesses and videos show him zigzagging. He's avoiding

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some vehicles, but he's intentionally, or what it looked like

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was intentionally, striking people. He continued for several blocks despite

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officers banging on the hood, yelling for him to stop.

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One officer actually fired three shots that hit the vehicle,

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but not Brooks, unfortunately. Police radio captured reports of a

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red escape running over people. Six people. people were killed.

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Those six people killed were Jackson Sparks, just eight years old.

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He was marching with his baseball team. Jane Coolidge, who

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is 52. Tamara Durand, who is 52 and one of

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the dancing grannies. Leanna Owen, who is 71, one of

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the dancing grannies. Virginia Sorenson, who was 79 and one

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of the dancing grannies. and Wilhelm Bill Hospital, who was

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81 and the husband of a dancing granny, who was

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also hit but survived. Dozens more were injured, some 60

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people in all, including many children, and it was clear,

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clear by watching that video Brooks intended to strike as

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many people as possible, especially considering he was intentionally avoiding

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other cars so that his vehicle wasn't disabled. After being

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set off, all of this after being set off by

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that incident with his girlfriend. So after exiting the parade route,

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Brooks drives this heavily damaged SUV into an alley and

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he abandons it. He ditches the hoodie he was wearing

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and he somehow loses his shoes. They were more like sandals.

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He loses those as he's running. He runs on foot

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through yards, a parking lot, and even a fence. Around 5.01 p.m.,

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he reaches the home of a resident, and he claimed

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he was homeless and asked to use the phone to

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call an Uber. The guy gives him a sandwich and

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a jacket. I guess he called police because they arrived

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shortly thereafter. Officers locate him. It's around 5.14 p.m. He

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surrenders without a fight. And the key to that Ford

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Escape was found in his pocket, so there's no identifying

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that was his car. He was identified also through videos,

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numerous ones, and witnesses on the scene. And the entire

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sequence from entering that parade to the arrest lasted roughly

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30 to 35 minutes. Two days later, he's actually charged. Now, initially,

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he pleads not guilty. Everybody's going to do that. You

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have nothing to lose, right? He later explored a not

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guilty by reason of insanity plea, but he withdraws that

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in September of 2022. Now, days before trial, his public

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defenders moved to withdraw from the case completely. after he

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insisted upon representing himself. Now, after hearings, the judge would

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find him competent and allow him to proceed, and they

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call that pro se. But this judge, she did warn

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that the right was not absolute and that disruptions would

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have consequences in this case. So he faced 76 counts total,

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six first-degree homicide charges, each of those carrying a life

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sentence in Wisconsin, 61 counts of first degree reckless endangering safety,

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six hit and run causing death, and numerous other charges.

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And Brooks, he would use what's known as sovereign citizen

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style arguments throughout. Sovereign citizens stand on the fact that

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the government has no control over them, all those sorts

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of things. He stood on a lot of that. He

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questioned the court's subject matter jurisdiction. He objected to being

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called Daryl Brooks. his own freaking name, and he asked

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witnesses who the plaintiff was, claiming he was appearing only

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as a representative of Daryl Brooks. It was absolutely bizarre.

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Of course, the judge ruled these arguments legally meritless and

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barred him from presenting them to the jury. He would

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interrupt constantly. He would argue with the judge. He would

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refuse to follow basic rules of decorum in a courtroom.

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He was removed from the main courtroom multiple times. And

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when that happened, he was placed in an adjacent room

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with a video slash audio feed. The judge, she would

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meet him and he was given a sign to hold

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up for objections. That's how crazy it got in this courtroom. Now,

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notable incidents include stripping off his shirt, putting the objection

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sign down his pants. building a fort of boxes and

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he would go on these lengthy rants. One lasted almost

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an hour. Prosecutors later described the behavior as an attempt

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to stall and intimidate. And the judge at one point

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said she had to manage a defendant who showed complete

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and utter disrespect for the simple rules of civility. More

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on that later. Prosecutors presented extensive video, parade footage showing

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the red Ford Escape zigzagging through marchers, frame park surveillance

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of the earlier fight that he had with his girlfriend

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and with that roommate, officer body cam and neighborhood cameras

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that tracked Brooks after he had abandoned that SUV. Officers

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testified about trying to stop the vehicle. The guy that

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fired three shots at the SUV testified and identified Brooks

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as the driver. Forensic work included speed analysts from store

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cameras and the condition of the damaged vehicle, medical examiners,

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and doctors described the six tragic deaths and injuries that occurred.

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nearly 60 people sustained during this incident. His girlfriend testified

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about the assault at Frame Park that afternoon that everybody

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believes led to all of this. And throughout all of that,

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Brooks claimed a lack of intent. He actually suggested the

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vehicle itself malfunctioned. He called a handful of witnesses and

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he tried to call the state of Wisconsin and due

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to what he referred to as ongoing misconduct. And the judge,

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of course, she had had enough and she closed the

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defense case. And she said, you're not calling any more witnesses.

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So the jury received this case late on October 25th

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of 2022. And after less than three hours of deliberation,

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and it actually started on the 25th and they had

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like an hour left in court. And then they deliberated

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two hours the next day. So on October 26th of 2022,

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Brooks sat quietly with his head in his hands as

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the judge read the 76 verdicts and he was found

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guilty of everything. Someone in the gallery actually shouted at

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him during this time and they were removed. Now, sentencing followed.

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This was on November 15th and 16th of 2022. And

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after two days of victim impact statements, the judge, she

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imposed six consecutive life sentences. without the possibility of parole,

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plus 762 years of additional confinement for the remaining charges.

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And all of this was to run consecutive. So, I mean,

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obviously he's never getting out of jail. She described Brooks

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as someone who chose a path of evil, and he

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offered a limited apology at sentencing while still denying it.

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the act was intentional. Now, where is he at today? Well,

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Daryl Brooks is serving his sentence at the South Dakota

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State Penitentiary in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. He is now 44,

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and he has been representing himself in efforts to appeal

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those 2022 convictions. Good luck with that. But there you

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have it. He'll never get out of jail. Evil, senseless

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killing of six and injuring of 60 plus more. And

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I'm going to play you a couple of clips. because

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it's important you hear how out of his mind this

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guy is. Now, first is a clip from his trial

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where the judge, quite honestly, had had enough of this

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dude in his outburst. I want you to listen to this.

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Can't keep doing stuff without, it should be a fair trial.

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That's my right. I shouldn't be able to do things

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without my knowledge.

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And pass it off to the jury like that's fair.

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They deserve to know that too.

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The rest of you can have a seat as well.

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As soon as the jury's out, I'll make a record.

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Mr.

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Brooks, you are well aware that the.

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Reason documents are being put on the witness stand are

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because this court indicated it would limit the movement of

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the parties due to your custodial status to keep things fair.

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And I merely asked how did it get there?

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Sir, do not interrupt me or you will forfeit your

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right to be present in this courtroom.

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So you're holding me in contempt?

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Are you holding me in contempt?

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I'm going to make a record.

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Are you holding me in contempt?

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I'm not answering your questions.

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So then you're not holding me in contempt.

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Do not interrupt me again or you will go to

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the other courtroom.

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Under what lawful law?

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All right, he's interrupted me once again. We're going to

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clear the courtroom. He's being disrespectful. I'll make a record

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once he moves.

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Unless you can promise me right now that you'll let

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me make my record without you interrupting.

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Me, sir. You going to make your record? You can

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make your record.

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Then please don't interrupt me.

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Don't hold me in contempt.

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I've never said any such thing.

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Removing me from the courtroom, Your Honor, is essentially holding

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me in contempt.

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All right.

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No, you're forfeiting your right to be present under Illinois v.

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Allen.

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I didn't forfeit anything.

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I'm going to start talking, and if he interrupts, then

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I will close this courtroom, and he will be taken

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to the next courtroom.

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Mr.

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Brooks, you are well aware that the court made some

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pretrial rulings.

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Related to whether there would be... They can stay in.

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I haven't closed it yet. He's not interrupting me. Whether

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the parties could... approach the witness stand. And I did

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that because you're in custody and I'm not going to

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allow you to approach the witness stand while in custody

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that is why various precautions have taken place to limit

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frankly that from happening throughout this trial there was one

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instance at the very beginning of the case where I

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allowed the state to approach a witness and I corrected that.

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That hasn't happened since.

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We've had bailiffs take items up to the witness stand

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or the items have been given to the witnesses or

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they've been placed on the witness stand.

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That's proper.

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There is nothing wrong about that. Nobody's trying to pull

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a fast one over you. No one is doing something

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that's not permitted by this court or, frankly, under the

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rules of decorum and courtesy or the presentation of evidence

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in this case. Frankly, from my perspective, sir, your attempts

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and your comments are to try to dig in at

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this jury and to somehow create doubt about the presentation

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of this case or the fairness of these proceedings without

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the party, meaning the state, having an opportunity to refute, explain,

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or correct it. I've taken the jury out at this

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point to admonish you that any further mumbling under your

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breath or not recognizing when I uphold or sustain an

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objection that I will take as a disrupting interruption meant

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to disrupt the proceedings.

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I'm not holding you in contempt.

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I'm well aware that that's one of my options.

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I choose not.

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To do it for the reasons that I've stated on

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the record previously.

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You can forfeit your right to be present today.

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At any point in time during this trial by your

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00:31:28.269 --> 00:31:31.079
conduct under Illinois v.

467
00:31:31.579 --> 00:31:31.900
Allen.

468
00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:35.500
When it is disruptive, when it does not.

469
00:31:35.440 --> 00:31:38.819
Follow the simple rules of courtesy and decorum, I draw

470
00:31:38.859 --> 00:31:44.289
your attention once again to SCR Chapter 62, which has

471
00:31:44.329 --> 00:31:47.430
been previously provided to you, which is under the statute there.

472
00:31:48.309 --> 00:31:54.019
These constant mumbling and interruptions during the proceedings.

473
00:31:54.039 --> 00:31:56.259
I haven't made a record of them today, but I

474
00:31:56.319 --> 00:31:56.920
will now.

475
00:31:57.460 --> 00:32:00.890
Started at 9.01, then there was five at 9.02, three

476
00:32:00.930 --> 00:32:03.569
at 9.03, four at 9.04, one at 9.05, sorry, two

477
00:32:03.609 --> 00:32:04.990
at 9.05, one at 9.06, three at 9.08, again at 9.17, 9.27, 10.31, 1.05,

478
00:32:04.970 --> 00:32:07.549
there was talking over by you at 2.03, five interruptions

479
00:32:07.589 --> 00:32:29.039
at 2.14, 2.15, 2.17, at 2.19, audible muttering, 2.31, 2.33,

480
00:32:29.039 --> 00:32:36.960
what I would describe as inappropriate, like muttering under your breath, 2.35.

481
00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:41.519
At 3.06, there was a hilarious comment. At 3.11, there

482
00:32:41.559 --> 00:32:44.980
was what I would describe as arguing about the muttering

483
00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:45.960
and the irony of it all.

484
00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:48.039
At 3.12, there were four interruptions.

485
00:32:48.079 --> 00:32:55.160
At 3.37... more 409, 410, more mumbling at 411 twice,

486
00:32:55.279 --> 00:33:02.619
and at 412, nine different times. So I think I've

487
00:33:02.660 --> 00:33:05.599
made an ample record of the disruptions today. I've been

488
00:33:05.720 --> 00:33:08.420
abundantly patient with you.

489
00:33:09.640 --> 00:33:11.480
I've, again, as I stated.

490
00:33:11.329 --> 00:33:15.049
Earlier, I've even limited how I tell these things to

491
00:33:15.069 --> 00:33:18.069
the jury about how to disregard, and I simply say

492
00:33:18.109 --> 00:33:21.509
the jury is to disregard comments and statements made by

493
00:33:21.549 --> 00:33:24.670
the parties or the lawyers as those are not evidence.

494
00:33:25.309 --> 00:33:27.950
So I'm warning you, do not interrupt again.

495
00:33:27.970 --> 00:33:31.109
If this jury comes back or when they come back

496
00:33:31.190 --> 00:33:35.160
and you do that, then you will be removed and

497
00:33:35.180 --> 00:33:37.819
you will forfeit your right to be present for the

498
00:33:37.980 --> 00:33:39.500
examination of this witness.

499
00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:41.380
Let's bring the jury back in.

500
00:33:41.440 --> 00:33:44.140
Well, you might as well remove me then because what

501
00:33:44.180 --> 00:33:45.750
you're doing is not fair.

502
00:33:45.829 --> 00:33:48.240
I can't even rebut it. Which you're saying. I didn't

503
00:33:48.309 --> 00:33:50.369
interrupt you. I let you make your incorrect record.

504
00:33:51.630 --> 00:33:51.849
Mr.

505
00:33:51.869 --> 00:33:54.529
Brooks, I'm bringing the jury out and we're continuing. We're

506
00:33:54.549 --> 00:33:55.970
going to get through these witnesses.

507
00:33:56.829 --> 00:33:58.069
And I'm not stopping you from doing that.

508
00:33:58.089 --> 00:34:00.390
Through your behavior, you're not going to delay these proceedings.

509
00:34:00.630 --> 00:34:02.009
I'm not trying to delay the proceedings.

510
00:34:02.029 --> 00:34:04.009
So I wish you would stop being incorrect on the

511
00:34:04.049 --> 00:34:05.630
record and saying what I'm trying to do if you

512
00:34:05.670 --> 00:34:06.170
don't know that.

513
00:34:06.630 --> 00:34:07.569
You don't know what I'm trying to do.

514
00:34:07.569 --> 00:34:07.640
Mr.

515
00:34:07.650 --> 00:34:09.010
Brooks, I'm bringing the jury out. I'm not going to

516
00:34:09.030 --> 00:34:09.710
argue with you.

517
00:34:10.070 --> 00:34:12.719
Then don't. Because I'm not arguing with you either. I'm

518
00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:13.300
stating facts.

519
00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:14.320
You're raising your voice.

520
00:34:14.539 --> 00:34:17.940
Because I'm tired of you always making a record. You're

521
00:34:17.980 --> 00:34:19.860
making a record of me trying to look bad. I

522
00:34:19.889 --> 00:34:21.610
know what you're trying to do. It's not going to work.

523
00:34:21.710 --> 00:34:23.489
I'm making a record of what's accurately being done.

524
00:34:23.510 --> 00:34:26.409
You're making a record of incorrect statements. That's what you're doing.

525
00:34:27.230 --> 00:34:28.650
You're not making a record of not being.

526
00:34:28.670 --> 00:34:28.730
Mr.

527
00:34:28.730 --> 00:34:30.809
Gross, I'm advising you to be quiet because the jury's

528
00:34:30.849 --> 00:34:31.329
coming back up.

529
00:34:31.329 --> 00:34:34.349
You're advising me to be quiet? Is you telling me.

530
00:34:34.309 --> 00:34:34.699
To be quiet?

531
00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:36.619
I'm advising you to be respectful when the jury comes up.

532
00:34:36.619 --> 00:34:37.960
Are you telling me to be quiet or are you

533
00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:38.530
asking me?

534
00:34:39.980 --> 00:34:41.639
I'm asking you and advising you.

535
00:34:41.659 --> 00:34:44.139
Okay, thank you for correcting that because don't nobody tell

536
00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:46.010
me what to do. I don't tell nobody else what

537
00:34:46.030 --> 00:34:49.070
to do. We're all adults in here.

538
00:34:49.090 --> 00:34:51.030
I've never told you to do anything at all.

539
00:34:52.070 --> 00:34:54.170
Sir, I'd appreciate if your tone of voice would change.

540
00:34:54.389 --> 00:34:58.610
I would appreciate if you would ask me. I'm a

541
00:34:58.650 --> 00:35:01.289
grown man with grown kids. Ain't nobody going to talk

542
00:35:01.309 --> 00:35:01.929
to me like that.

543
00:35:01.949 --> 00:35:06.550
Nobody. I don't have a problem with doing what you

544
00:35:06.789 --> 00:35:08.800
ask me to do. Not tell me.

545
00:35:12.469 --> 00:35:15.550
Just like when I asked you about subject matter jurisdiction

546
00:35:15.570 --> 00:35:17.150
that you have yet to prove on the record.

547
00:35:18.090 --> 00:35:23.349
But somehow I'm being intentionally disruptive. Come on, man. Stop.

548
00:35:23.650 --> 00:35:24.280
Just stop it.

549
00:35:25.909 --> 00:35:26.760
Jury's coming out.

550
00:35:26.940 --> 00:35:27.800
All rise for the jury.

551
00:35:28.500 --> 00:35:39.119
Not going to work. I'm supposed to be scared of

552
00:35:39.139 --> 00:35:40.130
getting removed or something.

553
00:35:41.050 --> 00:35:46.750
Like I said. no respect for anybody, court, police, people,

554
00:35:47.110 --> 00:35:51.769
his girlfriend, his family didn't care. And it all kind

555
00:35:51.809 --> 00:35:55.329
of shows right there when that judge had just completely

556
00:35:55.750 --> 00:36:00.239
had enough. Now, I saved the best for last because

557
00:36:00.260 --> 00:36:03.289
y'all seem to like this. So what I'm going to

558
00:36:03.349 --> 00:36:07.530
play in this next clip is a condensed version of

559
00:36:07.570 --> 00:36:14.179
the interrogation of Daryl Brooks Jr. And it is just bizarre.

560
00:36:14.300 --> 00:36:17.119
I mean, just what you would expect from this guy.

561
00:36:17.179 --> 00:36:20.780
Now it's lengthy. So if you'd like to listen, it's

562
00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:25.630
coming up next for everyone else. I'll be back next episode.

563
00:36:25.809 --> 00:36:27.530
So if you don't want to listen to this, you

564
00:36:27.550 --> 00:36:30.369
don't have to. But trust me, you're going to find

565
00:36:30.409 --> 00:36:32.670
it interesting. I'm going to play that and I'll talk

566
00:36:32.710 --> 00:36:34.340
to y'all next week.

567
00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:37.840
Here it is. People got hurt. People got some broken legs.

568
00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:40.940
And y'all saying that's me. I know that's you. How

569
00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:41.699
do you know that's you?

570
00:36:41.719 --> 00:36:43.780
Because I can recognize you. I can tell it's you.

571
00:36:45.380 --> 00:36:48.409
And that's your mom's car. She had the key for it.

572
00:36:49.210 --> 00:36:52.269
I can ID you. I'm just asking you to be

573
00:36:52.349 --> 00:36:53.050
honest about it.

574
00:36:54.780 --> 00:36:59.170
Stay that way. Stay that way. Nice and easy on you.

575
00:36:59.969 --> 00:37:07.250
There you go. All right. All yours. I'm not looking

576
00:37:07.309 --> 00:37:09.960
at something serious, man. Come on, Ben, you've been straight

577
00:37:09.980 --> 00:37:11.880
up with me the whole time, man. I'm not looking

578
00:37:11.940 --> 00:37:13.920
at something serious, man. I don't know what your definition

579
00:37:13.940 --> 00:37:15.940
of serious is. I mean, like, you've been through the

580
00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:18.360
system before. Yeah, I'm just, because I'm like, I haven't

581
00:37:18.400 --> 00:37:22.889
talked to anybody. I haven't been able to make one call,

582
00:37:23.530 --> 00:37:26.650
get any time off of my, I haven't slept. You okay?

583
00:37:26.909 --> 00:37:27.150
No.

584
00:37:27.469 --> 00:37:34.949
No! It hurts bad. Your shoulder? Bad, bad, bad. At

585
00:37:34.969 --> 00:37:40.829
least you know nothing's broken, right? Yeah. Good. So they say. Well,

586
00:37:41.050 --> 00:37:46.179
they know what they're doing up there. Did you sleep okay? No.

587
00:37:46.199 --> 00:37:50.599
Sleep all right? No. My shoulder hurts too bad right now.

588
00:37:51.059 --> 00:37:54.250
What did you eat last night? I tried to, but

589
00:37:56.380 --> 00:37:59.300
Because you're unsure of all that's happening? Unsure of the pain.

590
00:37:59.380 --> 00:38:02.380
I don't know. I'm like, what in hell? Shoulders worse

591
00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:05.469
than the knees, though? Absolutely. I know something is wrong.

592
00:38:05.719 --> 00:38:10.210
I know. I know something is wrong. What's your middle name, girl? Edward. Edward.

593
00:38:10.610 --> 00:38:13.409
I'm getting it. Brooks? I'm sorry, man. It hurts so bad,

594
00:38:13.449 --> 00:38:23.550
I'm getting teary-eyed. Like, seriously, I know something is wrong. Brooks, right? Yes, sir. Junior? Oh,

595
00:38:24.110 --> 00:38:26.789
my God. Because that light doesn't go off in there

596
00:38:27.050 --> 00:38:29.429
or even dim. So I was trying to like. Didn't

597
00:38:29.449 --> 00:38:32.710
even dim? It didn't even dim. So usually my comfortable

598
00:38:32.769 --> 00:38:35.750
side to sleep on is my left side where my

599
00:38:35.769 --> 00:38:37.929
shoulders are when I turned over. And I was just like, oh,

600
00:38:38.050 --> 00:38:39.039
my God.

601
00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:39.980
It came in there.

602
00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:43.179
It was like, are you okay? I was like, no. Yeah.

603
00:38:43.239 --> 00:38:44.360
You married Darrell? No.

604
00:38:44.460 --> 00:38:44.619
No?

605
00:38:44.840 --> 00:38:54.150
Okay. What's your phone number again? 414-339-5677. Okay. What's the

606
00:38:54.150 --> 00:38:57.969
610 number you gave me last night? That is my

607
00:38:58.550 --> 00:39:05.039
direct number. What's your girlfriend's name? Erica Patterson. And she's

608
00:39:05.219 --> 00:39:08.260
your baby mama? Yes. And are you working right now? No,

609
00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:14.090
not currently. How long have you been out of work?

610
00:39:14.510 --> 00:39:16.829
A few months. Anything to do with the pandemic that's

611
00:39:16.849 --> 00:39:19.469
been hitting you hard? Yeah, that's the reason why, yeah.

612
00:39:20.099 --> 00:39:23.349
I haven't talked to her ever personally. Said she drinks.

613
00:39:23.449 --> 00:39:27.969
Said she drinks. When she does that. So we got

614
00:39:28.010 --> 00:39:32.000
a report about an altercation. between the two of you. Okay.

615
00:39:33.079 --> 00:39:36.119
All right. She's a sweetheart until she gets the alcohol.

616
00:39:36.300 --> 00:39:41.030
The alcohol's the problem. Then you all type of bitch-ass niggas,

617
00:39:41.150 --> 00:39:45.820
and I'll have somebody touch you, and I'm going to

618
00:39:45.860 --> 00:39:49.139
keep my daughter away from you, and I'm going to

619
00:39:49.159 --> 00:39:52.139
make sure you never see her again, and you talk

620
00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:55.530
to bitches every time your phone rings. I'll hit you

621
00:39:55.619 --> 00:39:59.170
upside your head with this pen. Okay, and so that's

622
00:39:59.590 --> 00:40:01.690
kind of where I'm going with it. I've never been

623
00:40:01.710 --> 00:40:04.610
with anyone as bad as what you're saying right there, but...

624
00:40:04.869 --> 00:40:07.510
I think he can attest to it. Me, I probably

625
00:40:07.550 --> 00:40:09.760
look like he didn't do it with the chicks, man.

626
00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:12.920
You know some of the crazy things they'll say sometimes.

627
00:40:13.320 --> 00:40:15.980
But the reality is right now, Darrell, I didn't speak

628
00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:17.659
to her. I'd like to sit down and try to

629
00:40:17.679 --> 00:40:19.500
chat with you and learn a little bit more about

630
00:40:19.619 --> 00:40:21.909
you and Erica. She needs to be on some type

631
00:40:21.949 --> 00:40:23.429
of medication, man. Sure.

632
00:40:23.570 --> 00:40:25.750
Now, like I told you last night at the hospital,

633
00:40:25.769 --> 00:40:27.590
because we're not, like, on your living room couch.

634
00:40:28.309 --> 00:40:30.889
You heard that pop? A little bit. Because we're not

635
00:40:30.929 --> 00:40:34.210
on the living room couch... Relax. You'll be all right.

636
00:40:34.789 --> 00:40:39.239
It just hurts, like, right up in here. I don't

637
00:40:39.489 --> 00:40:43.079
know if it's a muscle. I've had shoulder injuries. They're tough.

638
00:40:43.280 --> 00:40:45.880
It just keeps doing this. Yep. I hear you. The

639
00:40:46.300 --> 00:40:48.679
only thing I want to know is, what in the

640
00:40:48.739 --> 00:40:50.539
heck am I being charged with anything?

641
00:40:51.039 --> 00:40:54.190
Well, she's making some, like I said, alleged allegations for

642
00:40:54.230 --> 00:40:56.670
being physical. If that's BS, that's what I'm looking to

643
00:40:56.710 --> 00:40:57.289
hear from you.

644
00:40:57.550 --> 00:40:59.190
Total BS. You know what I'm saying?

645
00:40:59.389 --> 00:41:02.090
It's this typical back and forth stuff that guys like

646
00:41:02.150 --> 00:41:04.050
you go through with their baby mama all the time.

647
00:41:04.250 --> 00:41:06.090
There's a lot of guys out there in your spot.

648
00:41:06.489 --> 00:41:08.690
And a lot of times, you know, maybe it's not

649
00:41:08.730 --> 00:41:10.989
always fair to them. But that's kind of what I'm saying.

650
00:41:11.010 --> 00:41:13.199
I wish they had a law to where if you

651
00:41:13.239 --> 00:41:16.949
do that shit, you should get in trouble. Sure. You

652
00:41:16.969 --> 00:41:20.110
shouldn't be able to just be like, oh, I'm pissed off,

653
00:41:20.170 --> 00:41:24.889
so I'm going to call and do this. Why would

654
00:41:24.929 --> 00:41:26.880
you put me in that situation and then you know

655
00:41:26.909 --> 00:41:29.519
we're going to end up being together anyway? Why would

656
00:41:29.539 --> 00:41:32.300
you do that? Trying to judge that credibility. All right.

657
00:41:32.320 --> 00:41:36.550
Fucking girl, man. I said this last night too, didn't I?

658
00:41:36.780 --> 00:41:39.000
She get drunk and remember I kept saying that she

659
00:41:39.099 --> 00:41:41.599
fucking acts a fool and I'm the one who pays

660
00:41:41.659 --> 00:41:45.719
for it. Yep, I remember. You ready? Oh, this hurts

661
00:41:45.820 --> 00:41:54.400
so bad. Oh, my God. Okay. Walk me through, kind of,

662
00:41:54.679 --> 00:41:57.019
if you can, your guy's journey a little bit. She

663
00:41:57.059 --> 00:42:00.929
has five kids. Okay. She lost custody of all her

664
00:42:00.949 --> 00:42:05.590
kids because of drinking and domestics with her other boyfriends

665
00:42:05.650 --> 00:42:08.889
and her other two baby daddies. Mm-hmm. It ain't just

666
00:42:08.929 --> 00:42:12.619
with me. Sure. She fights with everybody she dates because

667
00:42:12.639 --> 00:42:15.559
of her drinking. Her mom's wish on her deathbed is

668
00:42:15.619 --> 00:42:18.250
don't let her get those kids. They gave the kids

669
00:42:18.289 --> 00:42:21.070
to her anyway. Sure. They didn't even have nowhere to stay.

670
00:42:21.449 --> 00:42:24.510
They would stay in hotel to hotel to hotel. Were

671
00:42:24.550 --> 00:42:26.389
you in Reno or Georgia at this time? I was

672
00:42:26.449 --> 00:42:29.630
in Milwaukee at this time. She didn't come here until

673
00:42:29.730 --> 00:42:32.400
June this year. All the kids are still in Georgia.

674
00:42:32.639 --> 00:42:35.380
So what did they tell you? Boom. She came up here.

675
00:42:36.760 --> 00:42:39.480
I showed her how to make a resume. Everything was

676
00:42:39.500 --> 00:42:44.159
going good, but she started drinking. So what's this thing

677
00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:47.039
you said you just got out of jail like last week?

678
00:42:47.059 --> 00:42:49.050
Did I have that right from her? No, it wasn't

679
00:42:49.070 --> 00:42:52.969
from her. It was a paternity case here in Waukesha

680
00:42:53.309 --> 00:42:55.630
for my son. I think it was because I missed court.

681
00:42:56.650 --> 00:43:00.110
I had a court date, I think, in the summer

682
00:43:00.130 --> 00:43:01.210
sometime that I missed court.

683
00:43:01.860 --> 00:43:04.599
So it sounds like this goes back to what's your

684
00:43:04.619 --> 00:43:05.380
son's name?

685
00:43:05.380 --> 00:43:06.940
2003. So they got all taken care of once he

686
00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:08.900
got released from jail and whatever needed to be done.

687
00:43:08.920 --> 00:43:11.199
I have another court date coming up. I didn't even

688
00:43:11.219 --> 00:43:12.739
know I had the court date. That's why I was like,

689
00:43:12.760 --> 00:43:14.719
when they said I had a warrant in Waukesha, I said,

690
00:43:14.739 --> 00:43:16.719
for what? They said, oh, it's just fraternity. I'm like,

691
00:43:17.780 --> 00:43:19.780
my son's grown. I'm like, what the hell?

692
00:43:19.880 --> 00:43:20.099
Right.

693
00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:23.380
So you're still in North 19th, right? Yes, sir. Is

694
00:43:23.460 --> 00:43:27.440
Erica out? She's not around me because my mom was basically...

695
00:43:27.019 --> 00:43:29.659
So your mom threw her out? She didn't really throw

696
00:43:29.699 --> 00:43:33.349
her out. She was just saying... if you're gonna be drinking.

697
00:43:33.369 --> 00:43:36.210
There'd be times where I know she'd come drunk and

698
00:43:36.550 --> 00:43:39.369
I'd tell her, just leave. I'm not going nowhere with you,

699
00:43:39.429 --> 00:43:41.969
bitch ass, mother fucker, blah, blah, blah. And my nephew

700
00:43:41.989 --> 00:43:44.190
would call my mom and I, because I kept telling her,

701
00:43:44.199 --> 00:43:46.590
I said, don't call the police on her. She just drunk.

702
00:43:47.460 --> 00:43:51.260
When she comes to it, she's gonna be crying. I'm sorry,

703
00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:56.900
was she drunk yesterday? Anytime she can get a bottle,

704
00:43:56.940 --> 00:44:00.860
she's drunk. Okay, I understand. Was she drunk yesterday? I

705
00:44:00.900 --> 00:44:05.849
have no idea. But I guarantee you, she probably was

706
00:44:05.929 --> 00:44:08.650
most likely. She didn't have slurred speech or anything? Yes,

707
00:44:08.670 --> 00:44:12.429
she did. Yes. What brought you to Waukesha yesterday? How

708
00:44:12.469 --> 00:44:14.550
did you get out here? I was meeting up with

709
00:44:14.610 --> 00:44:16.610
a friend to watch the Packer game. Where did you

710
00:44:16.650 --> 00:44:19.590
go to watch the game? To a friend named Stephanie.

711
00:44:20.650 --> 00:44:23.949
Her house, a bar? Her house. What's the address there?

712
00:44:24.309 --> 00:44:27.909
I have no idea about Waukesha. I don't know the streets.

713
00:44:27.929 --> 00:44:29.469
What was it near? I know you had to see

714
00:44:29.510 --> 00:44:30.159
something near it.

715
00:44:30.710 --> 00:44:30.789
Uh.

716
00:44:31.510 --> 00:44:34.210
Like a gas station. Have you been to the house before? No.

717
00:44:34.909 --> 00:44:38.769
Never before? No. What's Stephanie's last name? I have no idea.

718
00:44:38.789 --> 00:44:43.300
I have no idea. When did you guys set this up?

719
00:44:44.239 --> 00:44:47.800
Maybe a couple days ago. Okay. Stephanie like a friend

720
00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:49.800
of yours or like a friend of a friend? A

721
00:44:49.860 --> 00:44:51.820
friend of a friend, mutual friend. How long have you

722
00:44:51.840 --> 00:44:57.730
known her? That was my first time meeting her. So.

723
00:44:57.969 --> 00:44:59.570
How did you get the number to know the house

724
00:44:59.590 --> 00:45:05.420
to go to? A friend. A friend. So how did

725
00:45:05.440 --> 00:45:08.440
you get to her house? My friend. I went with

726
00:45:08.460 --> 00:45:11.619
my friend. Okay, who's that? My friend. I don't really

727
00:45:11.659 --> 00:45:13.760
want to say his name. I don't know if that's

728
00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:19.699
going to accommodate him in anything. Okay, so I know

729
00:45:19.739 --> 00:45:22.719
you saw Erica yesterday in Waukesha. How did you come

730
00:45:23.360 --> 00:45:25.599
to meet with her in Waukesha? If this is BS,

731
00:45:25.619 --> 00:45:27.699
like you say, and I know you met her, what

732
00:45:27.719 --> 00:45:29.269
happened when you met her? Where did you meet her?

733
00:45:29.639 --> 00:45:34.019
Let's start with that. By a gas station. Okay. I

734
00:45:34.059 --> 00:45:38.980
was supposed to be getting some money from her. Okay.

735
00:45:39.400 --> 00:45:43.409
For what? It was the rest of my money that

736
00:45:44.659 --> 00:45:48.250
she had of mine that she was holding for me. Okay.

737
00:45:48.289 --> 00:45:51.289
How much? It was supposed to be $ 350. Okay. Okay.

738
00:45:53.869 --> 00:45:55.489
Why did she have it? Why was she holding it

739
00:45:55.510 --> 00:45:57.090
for you? She had been holding it for me for

740
00:45:57.110 --> 00:45:58.949
a few weeks now. But like I said, I hadn't

741
00:45:58.989 --> 00:46:01.769
seen her. Right. Why did she have it? Why was

742
00:46:01.789 --> 00:46:03.809
she holding it for you? She was just holding it

743
00:46:03.829 --> 00:46:06.070
for me because I told her to hold it for me.

744
00:46:06.090 --> 00:46:08.949
This was weeks ago. She had been holding the money.

745
00:46:09.400 --> 00:46:10.860
And my mom wasn't going to let her come to

746
00:46:10.880 --> 00:46:13.900
the house to bring it. I told her, look, man,

747
00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:17.260
if I'm going to be out there. I'll meet up

748
00:46:17.280 --> 00:46:19.619
with you and get the money, but I'm not hanging

749
00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:21.619
out with you. I'm not having sex with you. And

750
00:46:21.659 --> 00:46:23.219
she was just like, oh, you want to keep, I'm like,

751
00:46:23.260 --> 00:46:25.659
I'm not finna do none of that. Okay. I told

752
00:46:25.699 --> 00:46:27.699
her I'm out here and she's like, oh, where are

753
00:46:27.739 --> 00:46:28.780
you at? Where are you at? Where are you at?

754
00:46:28.780 --> 00:46:30.460
And I'm like, look, I'll meet up with you to

755
00:46:30.500 --> 00:46:32.659
get the money. She was like, well, I need something.

756
00:46:32.719 --> 00:46:34.559
I'm like, no, we can't do it all. How did

757
00:46:34.599 --> 00:46:37.099
you set the meeting up? Did you, did you talk

758
00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:41.039
to her on the phone? Yeah. Cause I didn't, I didn't, she,

759
00:46:41.760 --> 00:46:44.469
this is what she does. Hold on one second. Hold

760
00:46:44.510 --> 00:46:46.289
on one thing at a time. How did you set

761
00:46:46.329 --> 00:46:48.539
the meeting with I got in contact with her through

762
00:46:48.579 --> 00:46:51.619
a mutual friend that we both know. And I was like, okay,

763
00:46:51.639 --> 00:46:55.389
tell her I'm out in Waukesha or whatever. And I

764
00:46:55.429 --> 00:46:57.469
meet up with her to get the money. And then

765
00:46:57.489 --> 00:46:58.570
she put us on the call.

766
00:46:59.349 --> 00:46:59.570
Yeah.

767
00:46:59.829 --> 00:47:02.349
And she was just like, where are you at? I'm like, look,

768
00:47:02.670 --> 00:47:05.750
I don't know where I'm at. Do you still got

769
00:47:05.769 --> 00:47:07.010
that money? She's like, yeah, I want to give you

770
00:47:07.030 --> 00:47:08.349
the money. And I want to say, I want to

771
00:47:08.369 --> 00:47:09.849
do this. I'm going to meet up with you, get

772
00:47:09.869 --> 00:47:13.110
the money. We'll talk later. The three-way call, obviously it's

773
00:47:13.130 --> 00:47:14.429
your cell phone. Cause you're not on the phone, right?

774
00:47:14.630 --> 00:47:17.719
My friend's phone. Friend's phone. Yeah. So do you have

775
00:47:17.739 --> 00:47:21.800
your phone? No. That's what I'm saying. No. How did

776
00:47:21.820 --> 00:47:25.360
the conversation with her end? With me walking off and

777
00:47:25.380 --> 00:47:27.139
her being pissed off that I didn't want to hang

778
00:47:27.179 --> 00:47:29.239
out with her. I said, look, I'm not supposed to

779
00:47:29.260 --> 00:47:32.960
be around you. I'm gone. Okay. Whose car did you

780
00:47:33.019 --> 00:47:36.659
use to get out? She said, I didn't have a car. Now,

781
00:47:36.699 --> 00:47:39.090
whose car did you use to get to Waukesha? My

782
00:47:39.150 --> 00:47:41.690
friend is the one that said he was going to

783
00:47:41.710 --> 00:47:43.489
go hang out and watch the Packer game. I said,

784
00:47:43.530 --> 00:47:46.090
I'm going to go with. Okay. Whose car did you

785
00:47:46.150 --> 00:47:49.550
use to get out to Waukesha? I didn't use anybody's car.

786
00:47:50.510 --> 00:47:52.650
Where does your friend live? My friend lives in Milwaukee.

787
00:47:53.070 --> 00:47:56.510
So you didn't walk to Waukesha. Whose car did you

788
00:47:56.530 --> 00:47:58.510
guys use? My friend, I just said. What type of

789
00:47:58.550 --> 00:48:03.469
car is he in? I'm just trying to figure out

790
00:48:03.510 --> 00:48:06.190
how you got here. Yeah, I know, but it seemed

791
00:48:06.210 --> 00:48:09.949
like you're trying to spin me up or something. I'm

792
00:48:09.969 --> 00:48:11.800
just asking how you got here. Whose car did you

793
00:48:11.840 --> 00:48:15.179
drive out here in? I didn't drive at all. Whose

794
00:48:15.219 --> 00:48:17.420
car did you come out here in? My friend.

795
00:48:18.349 --> 00:48:20.300
You know, I'm not trying to be confrontational, but when

796
00:48:20.340 --> 00:48:22.659
you meet her out in Waukesha and you're not from Waukesha,

797
00:48:23.239 --> 00:48:24.619
I think a reasonable question.

798
00:48:24.360 --> 00:48:26.639
Is to ask, how did you get out here? Whether

799
00:48:26.659 --> 00:48:28.699
you drove, someone else drove. And so when you got

800
00:48:28.760 --> 00:48:30.420
out here, what type of car are you in? Every

801
00:48:30.460 --> 00:48:32.469
hour or so, my boss, he knows we're out here.

802
00:48:32.489 --> 00:48:34.329
I just got to call him and say, yep, we're talking.

803
00:48:34.349 --> 00:48:36.349
I'll call you back later. Just got to step out,

804
00:48:36.690 --> 00:48:38.309
throw in a line with him, and we'll come back.

805
00:48:38.349 --> 00:48:40.510
Just chill out here, enjoy your soda. We'll be right back.

806
00:48:40.750 --> 00:48:41.010
All right?

807
00:48:41.889 --> 00:48:46.159
Sound good? So we... Done talking or?

808
00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:47.400
No, no, no.

809
00:48:47.460 --> 00:48:50.219
Just chill out and we'll be back. I just got

810
00:48:50.239 --> 00:48:53.119
to make that call. That check-in call. All right. In

811
00:48:53.139 --> 00:48:55.820
the middle of the conversation. Well, do you want to

812
00:48:55.860 --> 00:49:00.690
tell me about the car? Let me go another couple minutes. Yeah,

813
00:49:00.730 --> 00:49:02.269
but I'm... I mean, I got to call him. I

814
00:49:02.289 --> 00:49:06.099
can come back, but I just... Listen, Carpenter. You've been

815
00:49:06.119 --> 00:49:08.519
straight up with me, you've been straight up with me, right?

816
00:49:08.800 --> 00:49:10.949
I don't have a problem with talking to you guys

817
00:49:11.090 --> 00:49:13.210
at all. I just want to know what am I

818
00:49:13.250 --> 00:49:16.170
looking at? Well, we had to start. She called about

819
00:49:16.210 --> 00:49:19.400
some domestic abuse related stuff. You said she was crazy.

820
00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:22.219
We talked. Y'all know that. Y'all talked to the woman. No,

821
00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:26.059
I didn't. Oh, I apologize. You talk to her officers

822
00:49:26.099 --> 00:49:28.280
that we listen to the interview. Slow down. She looked

823
00:49:28.300 --> 00:49:32.420
beat up. Like, dude. Come on now, man. Slow down, dude.

824
00:49:33.000 --> 00:49:34.820
We can't explain it to you if you keep talking

825
00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:38.369
over us. You know what I'm saying? All right. I

826
00:49:38.409 --> 00:49:41.409
haven't even been able to talk to my girls and

827
00:49:41.429 --> 00:49:43.760
be like, yo, I'm okay. You've been through this a lot.

828
00:49:43.789 --> 00:49:46.130
Being in a situation like this, yeah, but I've been

829
00:49:46.190 --> 00:49:49.579
able to call somebody, too. You've been. You know what

830
00:49:49.619 --> 00:49:53.239
I mean? At least just say, hey, I'm okay. Are

831
00:49:53.340 --> 00:49:55.880
y'all good? Okay, I'll talk to y'all. They know you're okay, Darrell,

832
00:49:56.380 --> 00:49:58.059
because we knew you were going to be here for

833
00:49:58.079 --> 00:50:00.639
a while, so I know an officer talked to your mom,

834
00:50:00.699 --> 00:50:04.170
and she knows you're okay. But how do I know that?

835
00:50:04.210 --> 00:50:05.670
I'm not going to make that up.

836
00:50:06.050 --> 00:50:06.210
I know.

837
00:50:07.250 --> 00:50:09.690
I know she knows you're okay. I stayed getting in these.

838
00:50:09.710 --> 00:50:12.369
They don't know what I do, man. Even when I

839
00:50:12.409 --> 00:50:14.889
don't do shit. Hold on, Darrell. You know what I'm saying?

840
00:50:15.059 --> 00:50:18.579
I grew up in church, being baptized. I'm a strong,

841
00:50:18.679 --> 00:50:22.199
strong believer. Strong. I got this Virgin Mary. Yep. This

842
00:50:22.260 --> 00:50:24.800
cross was, you know, I didn't get the scriptures that

843
00:50:24.840 --> 00:50:28.010
I wanted yet. Right. I'm definitely going to get some scriptures.

844
00:50:28.469 --> 00:50:30.730
A few Psalms, a few Proverbs. Proverbs is one of

845
00:50:30.769 --> 00:50:33.889
my favorite books. My thing is this, man. Like, I

846
00:50:33.909 --> 00:50:36.789
probably made a mistake by just having contact with her.

847
00:50:36.989 --> 00:50:40.050
Why do you say that? Well, because it's almost like

848
00:50:40.070 --> 00:50:43.079
she forces me to be with her. I'm going to

849
00:50:43.099 --> 00:50:46.039
keep your kid away from you. If you're talking to females,

850
00:50:46.260 --> 00:50:48.900
she makes me play by her rules. And if I don't,

851
00:50:48.920 --> 00:50:50.880
she has me by the balls because she know I'm

852
00:50:50.940 --> 00:50:53.309
already going through stuff as it is. Why would you

853
00:50:53.349 --> 00:50:55.170
put me in a position to go through something like

854
00:50:55.210 --> 00:50:57.820
this when you know I don't do anything? Because I

855
00:50:57.820 --> 00:51:00.320
don't want to hang out with you. Has anyone ever

856
00:51:00.380 --> 00:51:03.940
arrested you for putting your hands on her? No. Never? Never.

857
00:51:03.960 --> 00:51:06.880
Are there any open cases that you can't contact her? Yes.

858
00:51:06.900 --> 00:51:09.139
You would have said that? Yes. What's that about? That's

859
00:51:09.159 --> 00:51:16.980
because we had a domestic that she claimed I smacked her,

860
00:51:17.010 --> 00:51:20.090
punched her, did some stuff like this. When was that?

861
00:51:20.650 --> 00:51:26.800
This was recently. I got the cases open. So you

862
00:51:26.820 --> 00:51:28.760
did get arrested. I'm going through the case right now.

863
00:51:28.780 --> 00:51:31.099
You got out. I got out. And you know why?

864
00:51:31.980 --> 00:51:34.860
She's calling and telling them, oh, I was just drunk.

865
00:51:34.900 --> 00:51:37.739
I was just mad. She called my mama and told

866
00:51:37.780 --> 00:51:41.039
my mama the same thing. My mama was pissed because

867
00:51:41.079 --> 00:51:43.340
she had to pay all this money to get me

868
00:51:43.469 --> 00:51:45.829
out of jail for something that I didn't even do.

869
00:51:46.030 --> 00:51:51.050
She goes so off the fucking handle. And it's like, why, dude?

870
00:51:51.610 --> 00:51:54.250
You get my freedom taken from me just for trying

871
00:51:54.269 --> 00:51:57.820
to love you? Right. Just from wanting you to do better.

872
00:51:57.840 --> 00:52:02.710
And I promise you, my right hand to God Almighty

873
00:52:02.809 --> 00:52:05.929
on the throne with Jesus next to his side. The

874
00:52:06.030 --> 00:52:08.329
woman is going to sit up there and say, I

875
00:52:08.349 --> 00:52:11.530
was drunk. I was mad. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

876
00:52:11.550 --> 00:52:14.070
But it's like, now I got to go through everything

877
00:52:14.159 --> 00:52:16.480
just for you to do that. Why did you do

878
00:52:16.519 --> 00:52:18.679
this to me? My mom was calling her, calling her,

879
00:52:18.699 --> 00:52:21.780
calling her, calling her. And then she says, oh, well,

880
00:52:22.019 --> 00:52:23.719
I was drunk and I was mad. And he was

881
00:52:23.760 --> 00:52:28.360
talking to females on his phone. So you send me

882
00:52:29.300 --> 00:52:33.079
to jail? It's not fair. You're fighting. You're fighting hard

883
00:52:33.119 --> 00:52:35.079
and you're trying to get through her. I just want

884
00:52:35.099 --> 00:52:38.010
my life back, man. I love this woman. I want

885
00:52:38.050 --> 00:52:40.409
to see her do better. But I don't want her

886
00:52:40.530 --> 00:52:43.469
around me if she's drinking because I'm going to get

887
00:52:43.510 --> 00:52:46.050
in trouble. She's never going to be like, oh, I'm

888
00:52:46.090 --> 00:52:48.530
just mad. And it's on the spot. She's going to

889
00:52:48.570 --> 00:52:51.690
wait until I'm freaking locked up. It didn't be like, oh,

890
00:52:51.789 --> 00:52:54.369
I'm sober now. So I'm sorry. I apologize. I didn't

891
00:52:54.389 --> 00:52:57.500
mean to do that. When are you going to get

892
00:52:57.519 --> 00:53:00.099
in freaking trouble for doing that? That message is loud

893
00:53:00.139 --> 00:53:03.360
and clear to us. I guess I'm just trying to understand.

894
00:53:02.940 --> 00:53:06.360
You better, not knowing you, Darrell, and not being black myself.

895
00:53:06.800 --> 00:53:10.139
You got her to deal with. You got two other kids.

896
00:53:10.179 --> 00:53:13.039
I'm sure that's not easy. You got the justice system

897
00:53:13.059 --> 00:53:16.340
to deal with. Do you ever feel like fucking white guys, like,

898
00:53:16.380 --> 00:53:18.300
a little easier for them as a black man? Does

899
00:53:18.360 --> 00:53:20.980
it make you feel in any way mad at white people,

900
00:53:21.039 --> 00:53:23.599
resentment towards white people, just because of what you've gone through?

901
00:53:23.619 --> 00:53:26.199
No, definitely not. You don't feel anything like that? Not

902
00:53:26.300 --> 00:53:28.679
at all, man. My mama would have my ass if

903
00:53:28.719 --> 00:53:31.230
she found out that I was doing some racial shit.

904
00:53:31.389 --> 00:53:34.269
My mama's not going to have it. My first girlfriend

905
00:53:34.309 --> 00:53:41.409
was a white girl. Oh, shit. Does she ever just

906
00:53:41.469 --> 00:53:44.329
make you, I can tell she can get you. I'm

907
00:53:44.369 --> 00:53:47.530
so tired of going through this. Has she ever caused

908
00:53:47.570 --> 00:53:48.289
you to lose control?

909
00:53:48.949 --> 00:53:49.070
No.

910
00:53:49.090 --> 00:53:51.909
Has it ever gotten physical between the two of you, ever? No.

911
00:53:51.929 --> 00:53:54.219
The only time it's ever got physical with me and

912
00:53:54.260 --> 00:53:59.340
her is when she would not leave because she was drunk.

913
00:53:59.619 --> 00:54:02.559
This was in my mom's backyard. She acted like she

914
00:54:02.579 --> 00:54:05.909
was going to hit me with her alcohol bottle. She

915
00:54:05.929 --> 00:54:08.360
didn't swing it all the way at me, but she

916
00:54:08.400 --> 00:54:11.239
like rose it up at me like this. And I

917
00:54:11.260 --> 00:54:14.440
grabbed her arm and I was like, Mom, Mom. You

918
00:54:14.460 --> 00:54:15.780
know what I'm saying? And then my mama came out

919
00:54:15.820 --> 00:54:18.800
and was like, whoa. I'm going to kill this motherfucker.

920
00:54:18.840 --> 00:54:21.099
He cheating on me. I'm going to kill this motherfucker.

921
00:54:21.840 --> 00:54:25.119
And my mama was like, just go. Just go. The

922
00:54:25.159 --> 00:54:30.719
girl is a sweetheart until she gets that bottle. I

923
00:54:30.760 --> 00:54:33.260
know you're telling me she's crazy. It's just when she drinks.

924
00:54:33.360 --> 00:54:35.360
It's just when she drinks. I just want it to

925
00:54:35.380 --> 00:54:40.050
be fair. I'm not saying she's just some mental basket case.

926
00:54:40.150 --> 00:54:43.929
She does, when she's drunk, her words is she blacks

927
00:54:44.010 --> 00:54:46.849
out so she doesn't remember. She does 180. If you

928
00:54:46.869 --> 00:54:49.510
talk to her sober, sweetheart. Yeah, we got the picture

929
00:54:49.530 --> 00:54:49.750
on that.

930
00:54:50.130 --> 00:54:50.309
Yep.

931
00:54:50.530 --> 00:54:55.519
Drunk? Yep. Yep, got it. I've even recorded her drunk

932
00:54:55.880 --> 00:54:57.619
and played it back for her the next day and said,

933
00:54:57.719 --> 00:55:00.420
this is how you act and she'd be like, This

934
00:55:00.500 --> 00:55:02.780
is how you act when you're drunk. And I've seen

935
00:55:02.800 --> 00:55:04.840
this before. I've seen this. You're not the only guy

936
00:55:04.940 --> 00:55:07.659
with somebody that acts like this. So our message receives.

937
00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:09.590
What's your buddy's name? Can we get that? Have we

938
00:55:09.610 --> 00:55:11.429
got to talk to him to verify you're on the

939
00:55:11.489 --> 00:55:14.230
up and up and she's on some BS? His name

940
00:55:14.269 --> 00:55:17.909
is Marquis. What's his last name? I don't know his

941
00:55:17.949 --> 00:55:24.329
last name. What's his phone number? Oh. And you guys

942
00:55:24.369 --> 00:55:28.670
came out here together? Yes. Like I said, Stephanie, she's

943
00:55:28.710 --> 00:55:31.530
an older... Mixed lady. Who do you know in Waukesha

944
00:55:31.550 --> 00:55:35.110
other than her? I know a guy named Tyrion. Where

945
00:55:35.130 --> 00:55:37.329
did Tyrion live? I don't know where he lives now.

946
00:55:37.650 --> 00:55:40.639
I know a lot of females. Have you been to

947
00:55:40.659 --> 00:55:44.679
Tyrion's house? Once in, like, 2018. Do you remember what

948
00:55:44.699 --> 00:55:47.000
was near it? I think it was, like, right on

949
00:55:47.019 --> 00:55:49.920
the main street. What's the main street? There's a lot

950
00:55:50.019 --> 00:55:54.360
of streets. Near downtown? Is Stephanie's place near downtown? I

951
00:55:55.519 --> 00:56:01.320
know that park. is by old girl's house. By whose house? Stephanie's? Yeah.

952
00:56:01.519 --> 00:56:03.039
I don't know the name of the park, but it

953
00:56:03.059 --> 00:56:05.360
was something going on out there yesterday to where a

954
00:56:05.400 --> 00:56:08.179
lot of shit was blocked off. Okay. It seemed like

955
00:56:08.280 --> 00:56:10.659
everybody was at that park kind of walking around that creek.

956
00:56:10.800 --> 00:56:13.070
There were barricades blocking some shit off here and there?

957
00:56:13.130 --> 00:56:14.550
It looked like in that area.

958
00:56:14.650 --> 00:56:15.070
In that area?

959
00:56:15.090 --> 00:56:17.949
In that area, it looked like a bunch of shit

960
00:56:17.969 --> 00:56:21.849
was blocked. You couldn't go down certain streets or some shit.

961
00:56:22.349 --> 00:56:24.750
I don't know, but our friend was like, you know

962
00:56:24.789 --> 00:56:26.550
your baby mama trying to get in touch with you?

963
00:56:26.789 --> 00:56:29.579
She said... She got some money for you. When she

964
00:56:29.599 --> 00:56:31.860
merged us in, you out here, you out here, you

965
00:56:31.960 --> 00:56:33.599
out here. I told her, I said, it's a gas

966
00:56:33.619 --> 00:56:35.489
station right here. And she was like, is it a

967
00:56:35.510 --> 00:56:36.989
park right there? I'm like, I don't know. Is it

968
00:56:37.010 --> 00:56:38.969
a park right here? They like, yeah, it's a park

969
00:56:39.110 --> 00:56:41.409
right down here, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, well, just

970
00:56:41.449 --> 00:56:42.989
meet me over there. I'll get the money from you.

971
00:56:43.030 --> 00:56:46.130
It wasn't supposed to be us hanging out. She got

972
00:56:46.150 --> 00:56:48.409
mad because I didn't want to do that. I'm not

973
00:56:48.429 --> 00:56:50.309
going to sit here and say, I saw her drink.

974
00:56:50.730 --> 00:56:52.469
I'm not going to lie on her. But when she

975
00:56:52.510 --> 00:56:58.099
started acting like she probably having jest, jest. Stop drinking,

976
00:56:58.119 --> 00:57:00.750
but I know you was drinking sometime today. I didn't

977
00:57:00.789 --> 00:57:04.030
tell her that. I said, yeah, because she's acting too.

978
00:57:04.429 --> 00:57:06.210
You know what I mean? Oh, you just think you

979
00:57:06.230 --> 00:57:08.369
finna get the money and leave, and you must got

980
00:57:08.409 --> 00:57:11.429
some bitch waiting on you, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

981
00:57:11.449 --> 00:57:13.750
All right. How did you get out of here, again?

982
00:57:14.070 --> 00:57:18.070
My friend. What type of car does he drive? Oh, man.

983
00:57:18.650 --> 00:57:19.210
Like a Kia.

984
00:57:19.289 --> 00:57:19.429
Okay.

985
00:57:19.949 --> 00:57:22.800
What color is it? Like tan. Like I said, the

986
00:57:22.820 --> 00:57:25.980
Stephanie girl is an older woman. She, you know, likes

987
00:57:26.000 --> 00:57:29.539
to party, drink. the game she cooks sure cool fuck

988
00:57:29.559 --> 00:57:32.000
it let's watch the game did he offer and at

989
00:57:32.019 --> 00:57:35.550
the same time cool i can get the money yeah

990
00:57:36.050 --> 00:57:37.670
did he offer to drive do you have your.

991
00:57:37.590 --> 00:57:39.190
Own car what did you guys come i don't own

992
00:57:39.230 --> 00:57:42.110
a vehicle don't know you have any car you can

993
00:57:42.130 --> 00:57:45.769
drive at all no i have license but no no

994
00:57:45.809 --> 00:57:46.710
vehicle don't ever.

995
00:57:46.650 --> 00:57:50.090
Use your niece's nephew's mom's car anything like that my

996
00:57:50.130 --> 00:57:52.730
nephew doesn't have a vehicle my niece is 14 what

997
00:57:52.969 --> 00:57:57.599
about your mom No, my mom doesn't even know how

998
00:57:57.639 --> 00:57:59.739
to drive. She doesn't have a car, doesn't know how

999
00:57:59.760 --> 00:58:03.619
to drive? She doesn't know how to drive. She never learned. Okay.

1000
00:58:03.639 --> 00:58:05.780
Does she have a car that she lets you use

1001
00:58:05.820 --> 00:58:08.619
at all? No. Does she have a car at all?

1002
00:58:08.719 --> 00:58:10.570
Maybe not that she lets you use. Does she have

1003
00:58:10.610 --> 00:58:14.090
a car in her name at all? I think she

1004
00:58:14.150 --> 00:58:17.789
did at one point. Does she right now? Not that

1005
00:58:17.829 --> 00:58:20.389
I know of. Okay. I'm not going to say no

1006
00:58:20.469 --> 00:58:22.989
because I honestly don't know. So you just argued a

1007
00:58:23.010 --> 00:58:25.670
little bit and then you're saying you walked away yesterday. Yeah,

1008
00:58:25.789 --> 00:58:27.860
it was people out there. They would tell you I

1009
00:58:27.880 --> 00:58:30.019
did not put my hands on this woman. It was

1010
00:58:30.099 --> 00:58:32.239
people walking up and down the street. Like I said,

1011
00:58:32.300 --> 00:58:34.420
it was people out. Which car were you in when

1012
00:58:34.440 --> 00:58:36.099
you met her? I didn't meet her in the car.

1013
00:58:36.119 --> 00:58:38.699
I just walked right over here. She was standing right

1014
00:58:38.719 --> 00:58:40.639
there waiting for me. I walked up and she was

1015
00:58:40.659 --> 00:58:43.489
just like, well, my friend has my purse, so I

1016
00:58:43.510 --> 00:58:45.250
don't have the money and all this. I'm like, so

1017
00:58:45.269 --> 00:58:47.590
you had me come way out here. Like a power

1018
00:58:47.610 --> 00:58:50.269
player or something? That basically was like, yeah, you see

1019
00:58:50.309 --> 00:58:51.849
how fast you caught on to that? And I was

1020
00:58:51.869 --> 00:58:53.800
just like, you had me come way out here for

1021
00:58:53.820 --> 00:58:56.380
you to try to play and shit like this. I said, no, man,

1022
00:58:56.500 --> 00:59:00.179
I'm gone. Yeah. I'm out. You said you don't know

1023
00:59:00.199 --> 00:59:02.099
where your phone is. If you go somewhere, do you

1024
00:59:02.119 --> 00:59:05.389
take your phone? Absolutely. My mom just got me that phone.

1025
00:59:05.409 --> 00:59:07.110
She was just like, I got a surprise for you.

1026
00:59:07.369 --> 00:59:09.969
I never had an iPhone. Hopefully we'll find it for you. Yeah.

1027
00:59:10.119 --> 00:59:13.079
why I said, how can y'all not find my flip-flops

1028
00:59:13.219 --> 00:59:15.690
or my phone? I had on some Green Bay Packer

1029
00:59:15.730 --> 00:59:18.690
flip-flops because it was game day. So after you talked

1030
00:59:18.710 --> 00:59:21.030
to her, Darrell, they found you. It was cold yesterday.

1031
00:59:21.599 --> 00:59:23.760
Did you have a jacket with you? I didn't initially

1032
00:59:23.800 --> 00:59:25.679
have a jacket because, like I said, I was riding

1033
00:59:25.699 --> 00:59:28.909
with somebody else. But you didn't bring one in anticipation

1034
00:59:28.949 --> 00:59:31.489
of the cold? I didn't because I figured I'm going

1035
00:59:31.550 --> 00:59:35.670
from the house right to wherever we're going. We was

1036
00:59:35.710 --> 00:59:37.949
just supposed to be watching the game, having a few

1037
00:59:37.989 --> 00:59:40.909
cold ones, and then I was getting dropped back off home.

1038
00:59:41.489 --> 00:59:44.369
How did you end up at a guy's house asking

1039
00:59:44.389 --> 00:59:47.989
to use his phone, which is blocks away from Stephanie's,

1040
00:59:48.269 --> 00:59:50.989
without your phone in your shoes? You understand where that's

1041
00:59:51.010 --> 00:59:53.000
kind of weird? How did you get to be over there?

1042
00:59:53.460 --> 00:59:57.800
What happened? Yeah, what basically happened with that was when

1043
00:59:57.840 --> 01:00:00.539
I got back over here by old girl house, because

1044
01:00:00.559 --> 01:00:02.579
I don't really know Stephanie like that. It was my

1045
01:00:02.659 --> 01:00:06.460
friend's friend or partner. They was getting into it about

1046
01:00:06.739 --> 01:00:09.280
pretty much the same thing that I was getting into

1047
01:00:09.300 --> 01:00:15.920
it with Erica about. I was just like him. Who's him? Marcus. Him, her,

1048
01:00:16.760 --> 01:00:20.280
and whoever else, Stephanie. I was pissed because I just

1049
01:00:20.340 --> 01:00:23.710
met up with My baby's mama for absolutely nothing. I

1050
01:00:23.730 --> 01:00:26.050
walk over there and you don't have the money. You

1051
01:00:26.090 --> 01:00:27.630
do or you don't. You just ain't going to give

1052
01:00:27.670 --> 01:00:30.980
it to me. Well, hold on. So when I get back,

1053
01:00:31.380 --> 01:00:33.800
when I get back over there, I'm pissed. They was

1054
01:00:33.820 --> 01:00:35.579
getting into it. And he like, man, come on, bro.

1055
01:00:35.599 --> 01:00:37.639
We just finna go. We just finna go. And I'm like,

1056
01:00:38.320 --> 01:00:40.949
what the fuck going on? Like, I just got into

1057
01:00:41.030 --> 01:00:42.670
it with it. Now y'all into it. He's like, man,

1058
01:00:42.690 --> 01:00:49.909
this bitch tripping. Whatever. Let's go. I'm like, nah, nah. Okay. Uh, nah.

1059
01:00:51.769 --> 01:00:54.530
I'm like, I'm out, dog. And I just started walking.

1060
01:00:54.550 --> 01:00:56.789
Marcus wanted to leave? He wanted to leave, but I

1061
01:00:56.829 --> 01:01:00.309
don't know what the fuck he was on. Doobie, doobie.

1062
01:01:01.280 --> 01:01:03.320
He probably didn't even get into it with old girl,

1063
01:01:03.360 --> 01:01:05.360
but he out there like, man, let's just go, bro.

1064
01:01:05.380 --> 01:01:08.179
Let's just go, bro. How long have you known Marcus?

1065
01:01:08.440 --> 01:01:11.320
I've known Marcus for years. Years.

1066
01:01:12.219 --> 01:01:12.380
Okay.

1067
01:01:12.400 --> 01:01:16.949
I'm going to be straight with you. That doesn't make sense.

1068
01:01:18.590 --> 01:01:20.110
Listen to me, okay? Just listen to me.

1069
01:01:20.789 --> 01:01:23.170
By the time you were talking, it was getting cold.

1070
01:01:23.809 --> 01:01:27.260
Marcus is ready to leave because this bitch is being crazy.

1071
01:01:27.280 --> 01:01:29.460
He's like, I'm out. You just went through the same

1072
01:01:29.500 --> 01:01:31.840
experience from what you're telling us. You live in Milwaukee.

1073
01:01:31.860 --> 01:01:34.480
I don't know what exactly happened. I mean, I told

1074
01:01:34.500 --> 01:01:37.000
you about me. Wait up. But who are you going

1075
01:01:37.019 --> 01:01:39.489
to trust more? Marcus, who you've known for years, or Stephanie?

1076
01:01:40.550 --> 01:01:42.909
Why would you walk away, walk all the way down

1077
01:01:42.929 --> 01:01:44.409
to where you did, leave.

1078
01:01:44.210 --> 01:01:47.920
Your phone in the apartment apparently, No, I didn't leave.

1079
01:01:48.460 --> 01:01:50.920
And go down to where you were and not take

1080
01:01:50.960 --> 01:01:53.320
the ride back to Milwaukee. You follow what I'm saying?

1081
01:01:53.539 --> 01:01:57.000
Right. I don't know if that's a win back to Milwaukee, though.

1082
01:01:57.079 --> 01:01:58.489
But how are you going to get back if you

1083
01:01:58.510 --> 01:02:02.050
don't get in the car? I'll call the Uber. That's

1084
01:02:02.090 --> 01:02:04.110
what I did. How did you end up at a

1085
01:02:04.190 --> 01:02:07.989
random house without your shoes and your phone drill? I

1086
01:02:08.070 --> 01:02:13.170
had my flip-flops on. I had them. I just said that.

1087
01:02:13.389 --> 01:02:15.869
Where did they go? I don't know. I don't know

1088
01:02:16.070 --> 01:02:19.269
if when they slammed me down, they just never, I

1089
01:02:19.309 --> 01:02:22.760
don't know. So I guess another question I would have

1090
01:02:22.800 --> 01:02:26.360
for you is if you had your phone too, correct? Yeah. Okay,

1091
01:02:26.400 --> 01:02:27.500
you didn't leave it at the apartment.

1092
01:02:27.920 --> 01:02:28.199
No.

1093
01:02:28.400 --> 01:02:30.000
That's why I was telling you it should have been

1094
01:02:30.039 --> 01:02:31.920
on the grass. Why are you asking other people to

1095
01:02:32.000 --> 01:02:33.920
use their phones? Why is that guy leaving? My phone

1096
01:02:33.940 --> 01:02:38.519
was dead. Okay. When did it die? I have no idea.

1097
01:02:39.380 --> 01:02:42.909
But you used it for the three-way call. And I

1098
01:02:43.010 --> 01:02:46.510
used his phone for the three-way call. I had my

1099
01:02:46.530 --> 01:02:49.659
flip-flops on then because the way he was making it

1100
01:02:49.679 --> 01:02:52.380
seem like I was just running around with no shoes

1101
01:02:52.420 --> 01:02:55.239
to begin with. Right. It's like, no. I mean, it

1102
01:02:55.260 --> 01:02:57.239
was pretty cold. You didn't have a jacket or a sweater. Well,

1103
01:02:57.280 --> 01:03:00.420
I didn't have a jacket to begin with. I never

1104
01:03:00.500 --> 01:03:04.980
had a jacket. I had Green Bay Packers. No jacket. Right.

1105
01:03:05.320 --> 01:03:08.889
If I'm just going from a car to a house, well,

1106
01:03:08.909 --> 01:03:11.010
there's no reason for me to just get all bundled

1107
01:03:11.090 --> 01:03:13.300
up and do all this and that. When you left Stephanie's,

1108
01:03:13.860 --> 01:03:15.320
were there still a lot of people out? It was

1109
01:03:15.340 --> 01:03:18.449
still people out. By and part, it was a lot

1110
01:03:18.489 --> 01:03:20.909
of people out. Okay. Like I said, it looked like

1111
01:03:21.530 --> 01:03:24.969
something was, I don't know, what the hell. But it

1112
01:03:25.010 --> 01:03:26.909
was a lot of people out. It was older couples

1113
01:03:26.969 --> 01:03:28.969
walking down the street. It was younger people walking down

1114
01:03:28.989 --> 01:03:30.769
the street. It looked like an event or something was

1115
01:03:30.789 --> 01:03:34.469
going on? I don't know, but it kind of seemed

1116
01:03:34.510 --> 01:03:36.570
like it was something going on to where it was

1117
01:03:36.630 --> 01:03:39.130
vibrant because there was a lot of people everywhere. Walking

1118
01:03:39.170 --> 01:03:42.150
up and down the street. Everywhere. It's people, people, people, people, people.

1119
01:03:42.539 --> 01:03:44.559
That's why I'm saying, like, if I got into a

1120
01:03:44.619 --> 01:03:47.949
fight with her right there, it would be impossible for

1121
01:03:47.989 --> 01:03:51.570
somebody to not be like, hey, this guy's fighting this

1122
01:03:51.989 --> 01:03:55.909
chick or whatever the case may be. How long was

1123
01:03:56.010 --> 01:03:59.570
it between leaving Stephanie's and those cops yelling at you

1124
01:03:59.610 --> 01:04:02.050
at the door of that guy's house? Was it dark

1125
01:04:02.070 --> 01:04:03.940
when they yelled at you? Yeah, by the time they came,

1126
01:04:03.980 --> 01:04:06.460
it was dark. But we had been sitting out there

1127
01:04:06.500 --> 01:04:11.780
for a minute, me and the guy. Define how long. Estimate. 20,

1128
01:04:11.780 --> 01:04:17.760
30 minutes maybe. Okay. I'm like, look, I don't got

1129
01:04:17.800 --> 01:04:19.579
no weapons. I'm not trying to break in your house.

1130
01:04:19.599 --> 01:04:22.099
I'm not trying to rob you. Nothing like that, dog.

1131
01:04:22.559 --> 01:04:26.360
I just need to call an Uber. He was just like, okay, boom. Yo,

1132
01:04:27.000 --> 01:04:29.199
I need an Uber to, yo, what's your address? He

1133
01:04:29.239 --> 01:04:31.760
told me the address and we was just sitting there waiting.

1134
01:04:32.530 --> 01:04:34.929
She can keep the money or whatever. I didn't even

1135
01:04:35.730 --> 01:04:38.969
try to contact her further. I just was like, I'm gone.

1136
01:04:39.210 --> 01:04:41.769
You talked about being a, you know, a religious man.

1137
01:04:42.429 --> 01:04:45.750
What do they teach us in Christianity? They teach us

1138
01:04:45.789 --> 01:04:50.130
that we're broken, right? Even when we're born, we're born sinners.

1139
01:04:50.489 --> 01:04:55.679
That's why we're so thankful for God's grace and forgiveness, right?

1140
01:04:56.070 --> 01:04:57.010
When we ask for it.

1141
01:04:57.300 --> 01:04:59.519
You're a father. You have three children. You've got a

1142
01:04:59.539 --> 01:05:04.059
mama that raised you well and a God you believe in. Absolutely.

1143
01:05:04.239 --> 01:05:07.139
Here's the thing the law wants. You're telling the absolute

1144
01:05:07.260 --> 01:05:10.289
whole truth and nothing but the truth, right? Absolutely. So

1145
01:05:10.329 --> 01:05:13.670
help you God, right? Absolutely. Sound familiar? We've all heard that, right?

1146
01:05:14.429 --> 01:05:17.409
I just have concerns if I fact check that Darrell's

1147
01:05:17.590 --> 01:05:20.989
not telling me the truth. You don't own a car.

1148
01:05:21.030 --> 01:05:23.909
Your mom doesn't own a car, right? So Marcus had

1149
01:05:23.929 --> 01:05:27.250
to bring you out. So why did we find you

1150
01:05:27.269 --> 01:05:30.409
with a car key in your pocket? It wasn't in

1151
01:05:30.449 --> 01:05:32.340
my pocket. I don't even know where it is. They

1152
01:05:32.380 --> 01:05:35.880
said that was laying on the ground. That's yours. Yeah.

1153
01:05:36.559 --> 01:05:39.420
It should have been by my ID. Yeah, it's yours.

1154
01:05:39.480 --> 01:05:43.090
It's your car key. Okay? Because it goes to a

1155
01:05:43.269 --> 01:05:49.630
Ford Escape, and your mom's name is covered in Waukesha. Okay. Listen, Darrell,

1156
01:05:49.650 --> 01:05:53.610
and I'm not calling you a terrible man. I'm not

1157
01:05:53.670 --> 01:05:56.289
saying you were out yesterday hunting, but you did not

1158
01:05:56.329 --> 01:05:59.369
walk to that house. You did not walk to that house.

1159
01:06:00.409 --> 01:06:03.309
You did not come here in a tankia. You didn't.

1160
01:06:03.929 --> 01:06:07.630
You got a key in your pocket to a car,

1161
01:06:08.090 --> 01:06:11.760
your mom's name, And that key works for that car.

1162
01:06:15.159 --> 01:06:17.659
For the love of God. For yourself. For your family.

1163
01:06:19.199 --> 01:06:22.139
You know what happened yesterday for the people. Tell me

1164
01:06:22.179 --> 01:06:22.639
what happened.

1165
01:06:24.079 --> 01:06:24.539
With what?

1166
01:06:25.340 --> 01:06:31.639
With the car. With your mom's car. You're driving a

1167
01:06:31.659 --> 01:06:33.739
little silly. Probably because you're pissed. Met her at the

1168
01:06:33.800 --> 01:06:38.389
park in your mom's car. Her Red Ford Escape. She

1169
01:06:38.429 --> 01:06:42.239
got in. You talk. And what you're telling me seems

1170
01:06:42.260 --> 01:06:44.679
pretty consistent, that there was nothing physical between the two

1171
01:06:44.900 --> 01:06:46.739
of you. No, I didn't. But you met her in

1172
01:06:46.780 --> 01:06:51.070
the car. I didn't put my hands on her. But

1173
01:06:51.090 --> 01:06:54.269
you met her in the car. What's going on, man?

1174
01:06:54.289 --> 01:06:57.429
I'm asking you a question. Just be. You were out

1175
01:06:57.469 --> 01:06:59.829
there driving kind of crazy. Some people said you were

1176
01:06:59.869 --> 01:07:04.309
driving kind of crazy. We got reports of it. You

1177
01:07:04.329 --> 01:07:06.280
got the key. Did you take the car or did

1178
01:07:06.300 --> 01:07:09.539
your mom give you the car? I know you know

1179
01:07:09.559 --> 01:07:15.469
what car I'm talking about. So people reported that car

1180
01:07:15.489 --> 01:07:17.710
driving a bit erratic. I know what you're saying. All

1181
01:07:17.769 --> 01:07:20.519
I'm saying is this. We've all been straight up with

1182
01:07:20.559 --> 01:07:24.619
each other. You knew it was more to what you

1183
01:07:24.659 --> 01:07:29.679
was asking me yesterday. That would explain the FBI and

1184
01:07:29.739 --> 01:07:33.809
all that, right? You don't see him here today. Come on. Kurt,

1185
01:07:34.530 --> 01:07:34.829
we've been.

1186
01:07:37.659 --> 01:07:40.539
You've been cool, man, the whole time. If I did

1187
01:07:40.579 --> 01:07:42.219
something wrong to you... Yeah, that's why they were here.

1188
01:07:42.260 --> 01:07:44.429
But do you see them here today? They're not here today. Yeah,

1189
01:07:45.090 --> 01:07:47.750
but y'all lied to me, man. You made it seem

1190
01:07:47.789 --> 01:07:50.809
like they just come for no reason. Well, here's the thing, Darrell.

1191
01:07:51.210 --> 01:07:54.210
And I'm like, if I... Listen to me for a minute.

1192
01:07:54.230 --> 01:07:57.929
I apologize. I can give you a clean slate here.

1193
01:07:58.070 --> 01:07:58.710
I apologize.

1194
01:07:58.750 --> 01:08:02.530
Because you have lied to us as well. Because you

1195
01:08:02.570 --> 01:08:04.260
came out here in the Red Fort escape.

1196
01:08:05.099 --> 01:08:05.710
Okay, that is.

1197
01:08:07.110 --> 01:08:08.829
What you came out here in, you had the key.

1198
01:08:10.030 --> 01:08:12.030
So what I want to do is try to give

1199
01:08:12.070 --> 01:08:15.269
us all a chance to reset, start over, because you're

1200
01:08:15.289 --> 01:08:18.350
not giving us an accurate story. You didn't ride out

1201
01:08:18.390 --> 01:08:22.399
with Marcus in a tan car. You said your mom

1202
01:08:22.420 --> 01:08:25.300
doesn't have a car. I've just told you we've disproven that.

1203
01:08:25.739 --> 01:08:27.680
You were seen in the car driving, kind of acting

1204
01:08:27.699 --> 01:08:31.039
a fool, in basically the same area that you've already

1205
01:08:31.079 --> 01:08:34.670
been able to describe to me. I'm just trying to

1206
01:08:34.710 --> 01:08:37.380
figure out how and why it happened. What made you

1207
01:08:37.409 --> 01:08:40.000
so mad where you're like, fuck it, and you raced.

1208
01:08:39.779 --> 01:08:42.619
On out of there. And then people call, man, this guy,

1209
01:08:42.720 --> 01:08:48.000
he's driving around here kind of fast. All I want

1210
01:08:48.039 --> 01:08:52.829
to know, y'all been cool with me? Am I charged

1211
01:08:52.890 --> 01:08:55.970
with anything? I'll tell you anything you want to know.

1212
01:08:57.510 --> 01:09:03.130
Right now. Listen. You were driving a bit. Listen. No,

1213
01:09:03.430 --> 01:09:09.840
I don't drink. You had a couple cold ones during

1214
01:09:09.850 --> 01:09:14.460
the game. Yeah, but I'm saying the hard alcohol is

1215
01:09:14.479 --> 01:09:23.250
not my thing. No hard alcohol. I wasn't drunk. It

1216
01:09:23.289 --> 01:09:29.090
just felt like, let's railroad this dude. When? The whole

1217
01:09:29.149 --> 01:09:32.859
process yesterday. She didn't say I hit her, did she? Yesterday, no.

1218
01:09:33.300 --> 01:09:35.680
So at least y'all know that much. I did not

1219
01:09:35.699 --> 01:09:40.600
put my hands on this woman. I did not touch her. Right,

1220
01:09:40.619 --> 01:09:42.550
so what had you so mad? Because you had your

1221
01:09:42.560 --> 01:09:45.609
mom's car. That's all I want to know. Whatever you

1222
01:09:45.630 --> 01:09:49.390
can't tell me, I understand. I understand. Just so I

1223
01:09:49.409 --> 01:09:53.369
can have a peace of mind, what am I looking at? Well,

1224
01:09:53.390 --> 01:09:55.630
the fact you were kind of racing around up and

1225
01:09:55.670 --> 01:10:02.909
down the street. That's the first part, right? So y'all

1226
01:10:03.100 --> 01:10:09.539
can't tell me nothing? You got some reckless driving. Reckless driving? Yeah,

1227
01:10:09.560 --> 01:10:13.000
because you kind of accelerated out of there. Reckless driving?

1228
01:10:13.739 --> 01:10:15.840
Why'd you tear out of the park so fast? So,

1229
01:10:16.720 --> 01:10:19.789
you don't got to tell me, dude. He just started

1230
01:10:20.029 --> 01:10:23.680
replacing it with my hand. No, I'm just saying. I'm

1231
01:10:23.720 --> 01:10:27.300
not trying to do nothing crazy here. No, that wasn't that. No,

1232
01:10:27.340 --> 01:10:29.939
I've been tased before, so when I see that, it's like, whoa,

1233
01:10:30.020 --> 01:10:32.079
you don't have to do that, man. I already got

1234
01:10:32.100 --> 01:10:35.239
slammed on my shoulder. There was nothing there. Okay. Just

1235
01:10:35.279 --> 01:10:38.369
me resting my hand. I'm just saying. I'm not going

1236
01:10:38.390 --> 01:10:40.310
to fight. I'm not going to try to run. I'm

1237
01:10:40.329 --> 01:10:43.489
not going to try to hurt anybody or myself right now.

1238
01:10:43.510 --> 01:10:45.550
That's my bad. There was nothing. There was no message there.

1239
01:10:51.260 --> 01:10:53.420
What am I looking at? I just feel like y'all

1240
01:10:53.439 --> 01:10:56.000
know more than what y'all say. That's what has me like,

1241
01:10:56.119 --> 01:10:59.840
why should I cooperate when there's no cooperation with me?

1242
01:11:00.060 --> 01:11:03.880
I don't want to get railroaded by people not being honest.

1243
01:11:04.119 --> 01:11:06.800
That's all I'm saying. I know that I didn't put

1244
01:11:06.859 --> 01:11:09.100
my hands on this woman. The picture that you're painting

1245
01:11:09.159 --> 01:11:11.890
for me is that yesterday she did that to you. Hey,

1246
01:11:11.909 --> 01:11:14.909
I got, I got money. I got your money. You go.

1247
01:11:15.170 --> 01:11:18.109
She doesn't have your money. You get mad. You do

1248
01:11:18.130 --> 01:11:20.609
the right thing. You didn't hit her. You didn't succumb

1249
01:11:20.630 --> 01:11:22.189
to any of those. At all. Right.

1250
01:11:22.409 --> 01:11:24.140
You didn't do.

1251
01:11:24.140 --> 01:11:27.100
Any of the things that lesser men would do when

1252
01:11:27.119 --> 01:11:29.380
they get pissed off at their ladies that's dicking them around.

1253
01:11:29.539 --> 01:11:31.140
I know how to... So you got mad. I know

1254
01:11:31.159 --> 01:11:33.239
how to remove myself. Right. So you got mad and

1255
01:11:33.279 --> 01:11:36.470
you removed yourself. But when you removed yourself, you tore

1256
01:11:36.550 --> 01:11:38.909
out of there and your mom's escaped. I've been through

1257
01:11:38.930 --> 01:11:42.079
this too many times. I try to be cooperative, straight up,

1258
01:11:42.109 --> 01:11:43.649
and then I'll come back and I still have a

1259
01:11:43.649 --> 01:11:46.819
million charges. So your issue... Right now with us, as

1260
01:11:46.859 --> 01:11:49.960
you feel like we're not sharing. I'm getting railroaded. I

1261
01:11:50.000 --> 01:11:53.020
know I am. Y'all not telling me what's really going on.

1262
01:11:53.359 --> 01:11:56.460
But we're not getting the full truth either. I know.

1263
01:11:56.800 --> 01:11:58.359
How long do I got to sit in this jail

1264
01:11:58.399 --> 01:12:06.489
before I can call somebody? I wish they had some Tylenol.

1265
01:12:07.329 --> 01:12:10.109
I've been trying to fight this pain, man. It hurt

1266
01:12:10.170 --> 01:12:14.810
worse now than it did yesterday. Man, this is wild.

1267
01:12:16.130 --> 01:12:18.789
She's not a bad woman, man. It's just that alcohol

1268
01:12:18.989 --> 01:12:26.659
just makes her... She just... I'm tired of sitting in

1269
01:12:26.699 --> 01:12:30.020
places like this, being cuffed, getting my freedom taken from me.

1270
01:12:30.100 --> 01:12:34.199
I'm tired of it. I'm not a bad dude, man.

1271
01:12:34.960 --> 01:12:38.229
I don't run around here robbing people and carjacking people.

1272
01:12:38.430 --> 01:12:43.050
I don't sell drugs. I'm not into none of that shit. No,

1273
01:12:43.109 --> 01:12:44.569
and no one here said you were. I know, I'm

1274
01:12:44.590 --> 01:12:47.689
just saying. I'm not into none of this garbage. No

1275
01:12:47.710 --> 01:12:50.810
one here said you were. I just can't catch a break, man.

1276
01:12:51.529 --> 01:12:53.890
I can feel it. Like, I'm finna turn that corner.

1277
01:12:53.949 --> 01:13:01.760
Everything's gonna line up. Something happened. What am I doing

1278
01:13:01.779 --> 01:13:04.979
to deserve it? I can see if I was involved

1279
01:13:05.000 --> 01:13:07.020
with a lot of the shit that goes on in Milwaukee.

1280
01:13:07.619 --> 01:13:13.340
But you're not. I'm not. Man, dude. It's so much

1281
01:13:13.739 --> 01:13:19.390
for me to look forward to. But it's like, this woman, man.

1282
01:13:19.590 --> 01:13:23.609
I'm not going to continue to be the scapegoat because

1283
01:13:23.670 --> 01:13:27.109
you want to drink. I don't wake up and be like, oh, bitch,

1284
01:13:27.529 --> 01:13:31.489
I'm going to hit you. It's almost like I'm demonized here.

1285
01:13:31.569 --> 01:13:35.350
I'm not saying you're a demon. No, not you. Not

1286
01:13:35.640 --> 01:13:39.340
y'all saying that. But it's just, I feel that way because...

1287
01:13:39.159 --> 01:13:44.979
I'm trying to guess. I know you heard that. Oh,

1288
01:13:45.020 --> 01:13:52.569
my God. Oh, that fucking hurt. Sure. I know you

1289
01:13:52.590 --> 01:13:55.109
heard that. I heard it. It's in check. We're going

1290
01:13:55.130 --> 01:13:56.550
to go check with them. Maybe they'll listen to us

1291
01:13:56.590 --> 01:14:00.750
a little bit better. Fuck. You want us to check? Yeah. Oh,

1292
01:14:00.810 --> 01:14:07.000
my God. Yeah, give us a minute. See what we got. Dude,

1293
01:14:07.560 --> 01:14:10.479
it got to be something wrong, man. Why is it

1294
01:14:10.520 --> 01:14:13.500
hurting like this? And they say there's nothing wrong. Whatever

1295
01:14:13.539 --> 01:14:18.189
they did, it hurt so bad. Why don't you keep

1296
01:14:18.229 --> 01:14:19.689
the food and the soda and we'll be back in

1297
01:14:19.710 --> 01:14:20.289
a few minutes.

1298
01:14:20.310 --> 01:14:20.380
God.

1299
01:14:44.329 --> 01:14:44.640
Thank you.

1300
01:15:13.850 --> 01:15:19.279
Am I looking at a domestic? Man, I'm hurt, dude.

1301
01:15:19.340 --> 01:15:23.140
My mom, I know she's disappointed. I know she is

1302
01:15:23.220 --> 01:15:25.350
telling me right now, you was just turning the corner.

1303
01:15:25.390 --> 01:15:27.609
You was getting everything on track, man. Why did you

1304
01:15:27.630 --> 01:15:30.250
talk to that girl? That's what my mom is going

1305
01:15:30.270 --> 01:15:33.609
to say. Why did you talk to that girl? It's like, man,

1306
01:15:33.649 --> 01:15:36.590
you don't understand, man. 16 years off and on is

1307
01:15:36.630 --> 01:15:39.439
a long time. It's hard for me to just throw

1308
01:15:39.479 --> 01:15:41.939
her away, man. I don't want to do that to her.

1309
01:15:42.399 --> 01:15:44.800
And it's like, I probably know I should at this

1310
01:15:44.840 --> 01:15:46.939
point because you keep getting me in trouble when you

1311
01:15:46.979 --> 01:15:49.760
do things you don't have to do. You didn't have

1312
01:15:49.779 --> 01:15:54.800
to do this. You didn't. That's my money you got.

1313
01:15:54.819 --> 01:15:58.170
That's not even your money. Like, so was that the bribe?

1314
01:15:58.710 --> 01:16:01.069
That's what it seemed like. Now you just use that

1315
01:16:01.109 --> 01:16:03.619
to Because she kept saying, I ain't seen you in

1316
01:16:03.659 --> 01:16:05.039
a month. I want to see you. I want to

1317
01:16:05.060 --> 01:16:06.770
see you. I want to do this and do that.

1318
01:16:06.779 --> 01:16:08.430
You know, I'm like, I don't want to do none

1319
01:16:08.470 --> 01:16:12.189
of the sexual stuff. I can only give you like two. Yeah,

1320
01:16:12.250 --> 01:16:15.449
that's obvious. It's getting to the point where I'm like,

1321
01:16:15.609 --> 01:16:23.250
I managed all the pain I can manage. So the

1322
01:16:23.270 --> 01:16:25.670
thing that's important to me, and especially to you, because,

1323
01:16:25.930 --> 01:16:28.729
you know, you talked about your faith and all, is

1324
01:16:28.750 --> 01:16:31.270
just being honest, no matter what the situation is, both

1325
01:16:31.329 --> 01:16:34.380
big and little. Not just big stuff, but little shit too.

1326
01:16:34.859 --> 01:16:39.590
Just being, you know, straight up. Hold on. Yeah, I

1327
01:16:39.619 --> 01:16:43.010
heard it. We kind of touched on it. I hear it.

1328
01:16:43.729 --> 01:16:47.970
You got some injuries, right? Yeah, that was just from... No,

1329
01:16:47.989 --> 01:16:49.189
not you. Not you.

1330
01:16:49.390 --> 01:16:52.130
From after you drove away, some people had to get

1331
01:16:52.229 --> 01:16:55.149
checked out at the hospital. You know what I'm talking about.

1332
01:16:55.260 --> 01:16:56.600
Had to get checked out.

1333
01:16:57.140 --> 01:16:59.579
After you left yesterday, after you drove off, okay?

1334
01:16:59.600 --> 01:16:59.739
Okay.

1335
01:17:00.319 --> 01:17:02.000
You kind of tore out of there and you were upset.

1336
01:17:02.180 --> 01:17:04.520
Like you said, there's some people around and, you know,

1337
01:17:04.539 --> 01:17:07.779
a couple injuries to some people's legs. I know you

1338
01:17:07.810 --> 01:17:10.289
were driving the car, all right, but just we're trying

1339
01:17:10.310 --> 01:17:14.029
to understand what happened. You've been hung up for domestics

1340
01:17:14.090 --> 01:17:17.229
before and you post bail. You were just telling me

1341
01:17:17.369 --> 01:17:19.170
that you were concerned about going away for a long time.

1342
01:17:19.250 --> 01:17:22.109
Why do you feel that way? I feel that way

1343
01:17:22.149 --> 01:17:24.770
because I already have an open case.

1344
01:17:25.659 --> 01:17:28.380
That's like a bail jumping charge, though. Bail jumping doesn't

1345
01:17:28.399 --> 01:17:29.500
put you away for a long time.

1346
01:17:30.020 --> 01:17:32.729
No, no, no, no, no. I'm saying my open case

1347
01:17:33.250 --> 01:17:36.210
was dealing with possession of a firearm.

1348
01:17:36.229 --> 01:17:36.810
Okay.

1349
01:17:37.010 --> 01:17:40.430
So technically they can send me away for that. What

1350
01:17:40.449 --> 01:17:44.350
I'm asking you about yesterday, okay, after you left, to

1351
01:17:44.390 --> 01:17:49.020
me isn't an end-of-the-world thing. I'm simply asking you, well,

1352
01:17:49.560 --> 01:17:51.800
I mean, so why do you react that way? What?

1353
01:17:53.000 --> 01:17:54.800
Why do you react that way? A bail jumping? I'm

1354
01:17:54.819 --> 01:17:57.399
not talking about a bail jumping. I'm talking about, so

1355
01:17:57.439 --> 01:18:00.359
when you left, you came out here. You had your

1356
01:18:00.380 --> 01:18:03.770
mom's car, right? And I think you were angry. You

1357
01:18:03.789 --> 01:18:05.630
were trying to get the hell away from her because

1358
01:18:05.670 --> 01:18:09.010
she drives you crazy. And you're not familiar with the area.

1359
01:18:09.029 --> 01:18:09.689
Definitely not.

1360
01:18:10.390 --> 01:18:13.050
What would you want my partner to say to me

1361
01:18:13.270 --> 01:18:15.909
if he was driving a car around.

1362
01:18:15.390 --> 01:18:18.729
And your mom had a broken foot? Your kid had

1363
01:18:18.750 --> 01:18:20.979
a broken foot? One of your kids that you love

1364
01:18:21.020 --> 01:18:25.199
so much and are so important to you? So you said,

1365
01:18:25.260 --> 01:18:27.920
I broke somebody's foot? I'm asking you what you want

1366
01:18:27.939 --> 01:18:32.020
someone to do. Did you? So what happened when you

1367
01:18:32.039 --> 01:18:35.439
drove away yesterday? You seem like you saying you know.

1368
01:18:36.159 --> 01:18:40.289
You just said broken food. Come on, man. You playing out, man.

1369
01:18:40.670 --> 01:18:42.850
I know when somebody's not telling the whole thing, man.

1370
01:18:43.270 --> 01:18:46.670
You got a little girl, 7, 14, 18. You know,

1371
01:18:47.590 --> 01:18:51.079
they're young. So something happened and... and they got injured.

1372
01:18:51.199 --> 01:18:53.039
If my kids got injured. Yeah, something happened to one

1373
01:18:53.060 --> 01:18:53.760
of them. They got injured.

1374
01:18:53.800 --> 01:18:56.300
Not a life-threatening injury, but, you know, some type of injury.

1375
01:18:56.979 --> 01:18:59.260
And I was talking with someone who knew something about it.

1376
01:18:59.260 --> 01:19:01.619
What would you want them to tell me? What would

1377
01:19:01.689 --> 01:19:02.970
I want them to tell you?

1378
01:19:02.989 --> 01:19:06.250
Yeah. You understand where I'm going with that? Yeah, I

1379
01:19:06.250 --> 01:19:09.529
understand where you're going with that. Just saying, I feel

1380
01:19:09.550 --> 01:19:13.609
like it's more that's not being said. It's something somewhere.

1381
01:19:14.149 --> 01:19:16.649
What are you looking to hear, Darrell? You were the

1382
01:19:16.729 --> 01:19:19.050
one in the immediate area, so I'm looking to hear

1383
01:19:19.090 --> 01:19:25.050
from you. I'm looking to know what charges I face.

1384
01:19:25.869 --> 01:19:28.649
That's it. See, we keep going around and around with this.

1385
01:19:28.670 --> 01:19:33.119
Someone got hurt because they drove a little reckless. One

1386
01:19:33.159 --> 01:19:35.380
of your kids had to get, thank God they were okay,

1387
01:19:35.420 --> 01:19:37.140
but just had to get checked out by a doctor.

1388
01:19:37.630 --> 01:19:39.329
what would you at least want him to tell me

1389
01:19:39.449 --> 01:19:42.029
if he knew something about that? You know, maybe shoes

1390
01:19:42.050 --> 01:19:43.630
were on a little bit of a different foot here.

1391
01:19:44.909 --> 01:19:46.989
If it was me, I would want to know the circumstances.

1392
01:19:47.609 --> 01:19:50.189
Like I said. That's what you want to know as

1393
01:19:50.210 --> 01:19:56.279
a family. Now look. Right? I'm going. Okay. Let me

1394
01:19:56.340 --> 01:19:59.579
see if it may have been drugs, alcohol. You would

1395
01:19:59.600 --> 01:20:04.079
want to know that. And, you know, go from there,

1396
01:20:04.119 --> 01:20:07.180
I guess. I'm not a person that immediately just assumes

1397
01:20:07.600 --> 01:20:12.680
things just because somebody says this doesn't mean it's necessarily so,

1398
01:20:12.760 --> 01:20:15.819
or just because somebody said that doesn't mean it necessarily so.

1399
01:20:16.739 --> 01:20:18.760
The bottom line is you want that person to tell

1400
01:20:18.779 --> 01:20:21.149
me the truth, right? She made me mad. I left

1401
01:20:21.159 --> 01:20:25.069
there and drove around and someone had to get checked

1402
01:20:25.170 --> 01:20:27.590
out because I wasn't really paying attention. Now, do you

1403
01:20:27.630 --> 01:20:31.149
see what that leads to though? That leads to, oh,

1404
01:20:31.229 --> 01:20:34.930
now you got this charge. So then I got to

1405
01:20:34.970 --> 01:20:38.090
fight that charge on top of the other charge. Now

1406
01:20:38.149 --> 01:20:44.210
I'm already fighting charges I shouldn't even have. You want

1407
01:20:44.229 --> 01:20:46.569
to know those circumstances. You said you want to know

1408
01:20:46.590 --> 01:20:48.560
the reasons. There's a reason for everything. I agree with

1409
01:20:48.569 --> 01:20:52.399
you 100%. The bottom line is you were in Waukesha yesterday,

1410
01:20:52.819 --> 01:20:56.279
and something happened in Waukesha yesterday. Right, and that's all I.

1411
01:20:56.220 --> 01:20:56.619
Want to know.

1412
01:20:56.659 --> 01:21:00.699
We want to know. You know what happened. Meeting up

1413
01:21:00.739 --> 01:21:04.000
with Erica, yeah. And after you left from Erica. I know.

1414
01:21:04.020 --> 01:21:07.439
That's what I'm saying. You do. You do know what happened.

1415
01:21:08.260 --> 01:21:11.479
And we're here to find out what your reasoning was

1416
01:21:11.680 --> 01:21:14.420
so that we understand it. Now, I like how you

1417
01:21:14.460 --> 01:21:18.300
just said what you said. Because that gave me a

1418
01:21:18.319 --> 01:21:26.720
little bit more insight. Okay, and? It lets me know

1419
01:21:27.319 --> 01:21:30.760
that no matter what I say to you guys, I

1420
01:21:30.840 --> 01:21:36.930
definitely have something I'm being charged with. I just wanted

1421
01:21:36.949 --> 01:21:40.010
to know if I was being charged with anything. That's it.

1422
01:21:40.470 --> 01:21:42.829
And it started with the domestic questions that we asked you.

1423
01:21:43.409 --> 01:21:46.260
So I'm being charged with domestic. That would be crazy

1424
01:21:46.819 --> 01:21:51.239
when you didn't even touch somebody. Mm-hmm. Lesser men would

1425
01:21:51.279 --> 01:21:53.260
have beat her up for that kind of thing. I'm

1426
01:21:53.279 --> 01:21:56.079
not going to do that. I know. That's my child's mother, man.

1427
01:21:56.119 --> 01:21:58.520
I'm not saying that you did. You took the high road,

1428
01:21:58.880 --> 01:22:03.119
but then you left. What happened after you left? That's

1429
01:22:03.159 --> 01:22:05.250
what you guys want to know. But, yeah, at this

1430
01:22:05.289 --> 01:22:07.390
point in the interview, that's where we're at as we

1431
01:22:07.409 --> 01:22:10.029
try to paint the picture of the time that you

1432
01:22:10.069 --> 01:22:12.510
came to watch the football game with Marcus, if there

1433
01:22:12.529 --> 01:22:15.430
was a Marcus, the time that the cops came up

1434
01:22:15.449 --> 01:22:18.529
to you on that porch. It's not a complete and

1435
01:22:18.550 --> 01:22:22.520
total end-of-the-world thing here. Well, you keep doing that, but,

1436
01:22:22.539 --> 01:22:24.800
you know, that makes me wonder, okay, what do you

1437
01:22:24.840 --> 01:22:26.840
know that I don't know? No, but if I keep

1438
01:22:26.859 --> 01:22:29.439
doing that, it's because I know how this goes. I've

1439
01:22:29.460 --> 01:22:32.729
been through this before where, She said, blah, blah, blah.

1440
01:22:32.750 --> 01:22:34.829
Then she turns right around and tells the DA, oh,

1441
01:22:35.300 --> 01:22:38.800
I didn't, but I'm still fighting the charges. That's why

1442
01:22:38.880 --> 01:22:41.520
I said, even when I said, wait, wait, wait. If

1443
01:22:41.560 --> 01:22:44.220
you're going to charge somebody with something, at least let

1444
01:22:44.279 --> 01:22:47.890
it be made sure that that's what happened. Not just saying, oh, well,

1445
01:22:48.729 --> 01:22:50.369
such and such said you punched her in the face.

1446
01:22:50.409 --> 01:22:52.890
Such and such said you choked her out or something.

1447
01:22:53.210 --> 01:22:54.930
And then they go, oh, well, we're going to take

1448
01:22:54.970 --> 01:22:59.140
you to jail. And it's like, okay, what the hell?

1449
01:23:00.079 --> 01:23:02.720
Here's the thing, Darrell. We're not really talking about her anymore, though.

1450
01:23:02.840 --> 01:23:06.189
You keep spinning back to her. Because that's how I

1451
01:23:06.199 --> 01:23:08.149
initially came to me. When you found out that you

1452
01:23:08.170 --> 01:23:11.210
weren't her. Yeah, and we talked about that. We got

1453
01:23:11.250 --> 01:23:14.590
into that. There were some people that were able to say, yeah,

1454
01:23:14.609 --> 01:23:17.210
we saw him driving. We saw this guy leave this area.

1455
01:23:17.750 --> 01:23:21.840
Saw me, though. That's what we need. He seemed all

1456
01:23:21.859 --> 01:23:25.020
pissed off about something. I'm just asking you to do

1457
01:23:25.060 --> 01:23:27.819
the right thing. Save your kids, yourself, your mom.

1458
01:23:28.729 --> 01:23:31.029
I don't have a problem with that, but not when

1459
01:23:31.090 --> 01:23:33.770
it's not going to benefit me. I'm supposed to bear

1460
01:23:33.810 --> 01:23:36.170
my soul, but y'all can just be like, oh, okay, well,

1461
01:23:36.689 --> 01:23:38.510
we got what we want to charge him with this.

1462
01:23:38.750 --> 01:23:40.310
I'm not going to let y'all do that to me.

1463
01:23:40.399 --> 01:23:43.520
Not unfairly. So how do we go about it fairly

1464
01:23:43.560 --> 01:23:49.020
in your eyes? Fairly would be, did she tell anybody

1465
01:23:49.039 --> 01:23:53.279
that I touched her? Not yesterday. You see what I'm saying?

1466
01:23:53.840 --> 01:23:56.550
Not yesterday. What does that even mean? I haven't even

1467
01:23:56.590 --> 01:23:59.939
seen her in a month. I mean, she talked about

1468
01:23:59.979 --> 01:24:03.720
the previous cases and stuff. The open case. The open

1469
01:24:03.739 --> 01:24:06.380
case doesn't have anything to do with this, though. And

1470
01:24:06.420 --> 01:24:08.760
even with the open case, I didn't do anything. But

1471
01:24:08.779 --> 01:24:11.659
you met her yesterday. Why are we going back to

1472
01:24:11.680 --> 01:24:13.810
whether she said you touched her? No, I'm just saying

1473
01:24:13.859 --> 01:24:16.479
I wanted to know, like, because y'all wouldn't be asking

1474
01:24:16.520 --> 01:24:18.270
me about what's going on with her if she didn't

1475
01:24:18.310 --> 01:24:22.210
have some role. You trying to see what her role?

1476
01:24:22.470 --> 01:24:25.810
That's why I'm like, explain that. Yesterday was nothing physical.

1477
01:24:25.909 --> 01:24:29.979
Nothing physical, but there was an argument. Okay, you be

1478
01:24:30.060 --> 01:24:31.720
telling her I'm not going to hang out with you,

1479
01:24:31.760 --> 01:24:33.579
I'm going to leave if you don't have the money.

1480
01:24:34.319 --> 01:24:38.899
That's not domestic violence. Me or her have to physically

1481
01:24:38.939 --> 01:24:41.319
put our hands, you know, like a push or like

1482
01:24:41.350 --> 01:24:44.069
a choke or like a kick or I grabbed her

1483
01:24:44.189 --> 01:24:46.569
up or something like that or she grabbed me. Then

1484
01:24:46.670 --> 01:24:49.510
I can see people saying, okay, it's a domestic violence

1485
01:24:49.529 --> 01:24:52.550
because you grabbed her or you choked her or you

1486
01:24:52.609 --> 01:24:54.430
slapped her or you punched her or kicked her or

1487
01:24:54.510 --> 01:24:59.489
pushed her down. We're beyond that. Be right back, Darrell. Okay,

1488
01:24:59.529 --> 01:25:02.229
no problem. No problem. Like I said, I ain't trying

1489
01:25:02.250 --> 01:25:04.989
to be all crazy. We know it's not personal. Did

1490
01:25:05.029 --> 01:25:07.810
y'all know more than what y'all telling me, man? Ben,

1491
01:25:07.829 --> 01:25:10.649
I did not touch this woman, man. I did not

1492
01:25:10.770 --> 01:25:12.989
touch this woman. I believe you, but we're past that point.

1493
01:25:13.010 --> 01:25:14.720
When we came, we got those answers that we were

1494
01:25:14.729 --> 01:25:17.460
looking for. I love this woman. I will not hurt her, man.

1495
01:25:17.840 --> 01:25:21.039
And we got those answers. You explained that. We've been

1496
01:25:21.060 --> 01:25:25.220
talking for hours. Now, listen, it sounded like somebody got hurt. Yeah,

1497
01:25:25.239 --> 01:25:28.079
there was something that happened. Somebody got hurt, man. Somebody

1498
01:25:28.100 --> 01:25:32.100
got hurt. Well, there were some people that were hurt. Right.

1499
01:25:32.119 --> 01:25:34.649
That's what I was trying to figure out. Mm-hmm. And

1500
01:25:36.149 --> 01:25:39.869
people are saying, I'm the cause. Right. Do you think

1501
01:25:39.909 --> 01:25:41.949
people would be saying that to you? No, they shouldn't be.

1502
01:25:42.869 --> 01:25:46.819
They shouldn't be. I didn't hurt anybody. Not my baby's mom. Mm-hmm.

1503
01:25:46.840 --> 01:25:49.359
Not anybody else. That wasn't why I was out here.

1504
01:25:49.960 --> 01:25:52.079
You were just trying to watch a game with some friends.

1505
01:25:52.140 --> 01:25:54.460
Hang out with some new chicks. That's it, man. Mm-hmm.

1506
01:25:55.810 --> 01:25:57.729
It's not like there's more going on. It's just me

1507
01:25:57.750 --> 01:26:00.369
and Erica. I think it's related to you and Erica.

1508
01:26:00.489 --> 01:26:07.020
I think Erica precipitated the event. Absolutely. I just want

1509
01:26:07.060 --> 01:26:10.060
her to be honest about her part. Well, it doesn't

1510
01:26:10.079 --> 01:26:12.159
make you feel better to know that she's getting re-interviewed.

1511
01:26:12.260 --> 01:26:14.399
It does. That's why my partner and I got to

1512
01:26:14.420 --> 01:26:16.819
make those phone calls. This is what he's saying. This

1513
01:26:17.060 --> 01:26:19.579
is what she's saying. But again, that's only part of

1514
01:26:19.600 --> 01:26:27.689
what happened yesterday. So... Yeah. Yeah. So this is my

1515
01:26:27.710 --> 01:26:37.130
thing between me and you, Ben. What if it wasn't

1516
01:26:37.149 --> 01:26:41.470
me driving? What if it wasn't you? What if it

1517
01:26:41.489 --> 01:26:48.250
was my mom's truck? Mm-hmm. But I wasn't driving? Mm-hmm.

1518
01:26:51.449 --> 01:26:56.180
What if it was you? What if it wasn't me? Mm-hmm.

1519
01:26:58.000 --> 01:27:01.880
Who else would it be? That's what I'm asking. What

1520
01:27:01.920 --> 01:27:08.760
if I knew? Mm-hmm. Would I be asked to give

1521
01:27:08.800 --> 01:27:13.779
that information? So if somebody else was driving that car, yeah,

1522
01:27:13.800 --> 01:27:15.439
I would want to know. So we can go talk

1523
01:27:15.470 --> 01:27:18.550
to that person. But a huge part of that is

1524
01:27:18.569 --> 01:27:20.630
going to be your honesty with it. Right, right, right.

1525
01:27:20.649 --> 01:27:22.270
And I was just asking. You're not a dumb man.

1526
01:27:22.789 --> 01:27:25.050
You're a smart guy. Right. You know that we've been

1527
01:27:25.069 --> 01:27:28.119
working on that. My thing is, I just don't want

1528
01:27:28.140 --> 01:27:30.720
to get charged with something that I didn't do. Now,

1529
01:27:30.760 --> 01:27:34.100
with something that I did do, I'm willing to be like,

1530
01:27:34.439 --> 01:27:36.399
I did that. You don't want to get hemmed up

1531
01:27:36.430 --> 01:27:38.750
for something you did not do. That's all I'm saying.

1532
01:27:38.850 --> 01:27:41.170
Because they do that a lot. When I had this

1533
01:27:41.270 --> 01:27:45.550
domestic with Erica that's about to get dismissed, the guy

1534
01:27:45.590 --> 01:27:48.430
was saying the same thing. And when I get to county,

1535
01:27:48.810 --> 01:27:51.359
I had charge after charge after charge after charge after charge.

1536
01:27:51.380 --> 01:27:55.300
And I'm like, where did all these charges come from? Sometimes, though,

1537
01:27:55.739 --> 01:28:02.750
we can be circumstances or the reasons and it's not

1538
01:28:02.770 --> 01:28:05.409
just blindly this guy did it and let's assume the

1539
01:28:05.430 --> 01:28:08.569
worst of all. That's what I felt like just now.

1540
01:28:09.409 --> 01:28:12.050
Now I'm starting to get a clear picture like okay

1541
01:28:12.090 --> 01:28:18.060
so somebody somewhere in this whole situation got hurt. That's

1542
01:28:18.140 --> 01:28:20.579
on me. That's how he had me making it seem

1543
01:28:20.619 --> 01:28:24.140
like it's on me. That is going to lead to

1544
01:28:24.220 --> 01:28:27.789
a charge. Is it on you? No. That's what I'm

1545
01:28:27.829 --> 01:28:32.859
trying to say but the charge On top of what

1546
01:28:32.899 --> 01:28:39.069
I already got in Milwaukee. So it's like boom, boom, boom.

1547
01:28:39.329 --> 01:28:42.250
Where are those? I'll show you in a minute. Okay.

1548
01:28:42.430 --> 01:28:45.430
You don't want to see anybody get charged for something

1549
01:28:45.449 --> 01:28:48.310
they didn't do. But you already brought up that if

1550
01:28:48.350 --> 01:28:52.260
somebody did something, that they should be held accountable for it.

1551
01:28:52.859 --> 01:28:55.880
And that you're willing to accept responsibility. What's going on?

1552
01:28:55.920 --> 01:28:57.199
Can I show you something?

1553
01:28:57.619 --> 01:28:57.739
Yeah.

1554
01:28:58.119 --> 01:29:00.140
Look like you got a film here or something. No, no,

1555
01:29:00.159 --> 01:29:07.659
I'm not filming that. That you? That's you. No, I

1556
01:29:07.680 --> 01:29:11.300
ain't got no um. It look like whoever. It look

1557
01:29:11.340 --> 01:29:16.319
like Gray. Right there. I can see your face. No,

1558
01:29:16.359 --> 01:29:20.510
that's not me. That's not you. That's not me. That's

1559
01:29:20.550 --> 01:29:24.789
not you. No, I don't. Daryl. That's Daryl. That's you.

1560
01:29:24.890 --> 01:29:30.180
That's you, Daryl. Why you say it like that, man?

1561
01:29:31.100 --> 01:29:33.960
Because we talked about the honesty piece. You keep telling

1562
01:29:33.979 --> 01:29:36.500
me that you tell the truth when you did do something.

1563
01:29:37.140 --> 01:29:47.109
There's my car. When you do do something. There's your

1564
01:29:47.130 --> 01:29:56.310
mom's car again. There's your mom's car again. Next to

1565
01:29:56.340 --> 01:29:58.539
a child, which I know you care a lot about. Children.

1566
01:29:59.779 --> 01:30:03.470
Next to a child, maybe something like that. It's your

1567
01:30:03.489 --> 01:30:07.569
mom's car. Yeah, I was just asking him about my...

1568
01:30:08.329 --> 01:30:11.680
That's your mom's car that we took the key for

1569
01:30:11.729 --> 01:30:15.689
from you. So... You can't tell me at this point

1570
01:30:15.729 --> 01:30:18.369
I'm playing any games anymore, you know. I didn't say

1571
01:30:18.390 --> 01:30:20.609
you was playing games from the get-go. Well, you felt

1572
01:30:20.670 --> 01:30:23.840
like being totally straight. Last night I felt like I

1573
01:30:23.859 --> 01:30:27.119
was being railroaded to be like, okay, tell me this,

1574
01:30:27.840 --> 01:30:30.460
but we already know over here what we're going to do.

1575
01:30:31.020 --> 01:30:33.050
I don't feel like that's fair. What time did you

1576
01:30:33.060 --> 01:30:35.510
head out from Milwaukee to Waukesha? I don't want to talk, man.

1577
01:30:35.630 --> 01:30:38.489
I'm not getting nothing. I just showed you three pictures. Okay,

1578
01:30:38.510 --> 01:30:40.270
you showed me pictures, but you're not telling me what

1579
01:30:40.289 --> 01:30:43.550
I'm facing. You know what you're facing. I don't. You

1580
01:30:43.590 --> 01:30:45.970
drove down a parade route. You got a pretty good

1581
01:30:46.010 --> 01:30:47.770
idea what you're facing. You see what I'm saying? So

1582
01:30:47.810 --> 01:30:51.260
now this is more stuff coming out, man. We told

1583
01:30:51.300 --> 01:30:53.699
you we were looking for that explanation. And that's you.

1584
01:30:53.800 --> 01:30:56.220
And all I'm saying is, look, all somebody got to

1585
01:30:56.260 --> 01:30:58.520
do is just tell me what I'm facing. I'll tell

1586
01:30:58.560 --> 01:31:02.319
you guys whatever you want to know. I said that three,

1587
01:31:02.380 --> 01:31:07.390
four times. There it is. And it's like, yo. So Darrell,

1588
01:31:07.439 --> 01:31:09.210
what were you thinking when you went driving through this parade?

1589
01:31:09.229 --> 01:31:11.550
What am I facing? You got people injured that had

1590
01:31:11.569 --> 01:31:14.529
to go to the hospital. So they're saying I injured somebody,

1591
01:31:14.630 --> 01:31:18.020
or you're saying I injured somebody. Yeah. So I'm looking

1592
01:31:18.079 --> 01:31:22.880
at what, reckless endangerment? The very least, yeah. The very least?

1593
01:31:23.520 --> 01:31:25.560
People got hurt. That's reckless endangerment. I don't know exactly

1594
01:31:25.600 --> 01:31:27.880
what they're going to classify it. Yeah, people had legs broken.

1595
01:31:27.899 --> 01:31:31.250
Endangerment's where you may have hurt somebody by your actions.

1596
01:31:31.289 --> 01:31:34.069
You did hurt somebody by your actions. So what am

1597
01:31:34.130 --> 01:31:36.260
I being charged with? That's what I'm trying to say.

1598
01:31:36.270 --> 01:31:38.449
I don't know exactly yet. Still working that out? I

1599
01:31:38.470 --> 01:31:42.829
don't know all of the details. Driving down there. People

1600
01:31:42.850 --> 01:31:45.689
got hurt. People got some broken legs. And y'all saying

1601
01:31:45.710 --> 01:31:48.180
that's me? I know that's you. How do you know

1602
01:31:48.189 --> 01:31:50.359
that's you? Because I can recognize you. I can tell

1603
01:31:50.399 --> 01:31:54.579
it's you. Yeah. And that's your mom's car. She had

1604
01:31:54.600 --> 01:31:58.239
the key for it. How can I be you? Darrell,

1605
01:31:58.779 --> 01:32:02.359
I'm just asking you to be honest about it. Be

1606
01:32:02.399 --> 01:32:05.560
honest about what I'm facing? What do you think you're facing?

1607
01:32:05.699 --> 01:32:08.039
I don't. What do you think you're facing? You've been

1608
01:32:08.079 --> 01:32:10.840
through this gamut before. Right, and y'all knew I was

1609
01:32:10.859 --> 01:32:12.760
getting charged with this from day one, so why y'all

1610
01:32:12.779 --> 01:32:15.039
couldn't just charge me and take me to county jail

1611
01:32:15.060 --> 01:32:17.420
where y'all was going to take me? Because we wanted that.

1612
01:32:17.439 --> 01:32:19.920
Because you wanted me to tell them myself. That's basically

1613
01:32:19.939 --> 01:32:21.300
what y'all wanted me to do. You told us that

1614
01:32:21.319 --> 01:32:24.180
there was reasons for everything. No, I'm saying, but come on, dude.

1615
01:32:24.239 --> 01:32:26.699
If y'all knew this already, you'd take me through the

1616
01:32:26.720 --> 01:32:29.260
runaround to get me to do something that y'all already.

1617
01:32:29.720 --> 01:32:30.239
Can I speak?

1618
01:32:31.539 --> 01:32:34.140
One of two people did this, and I mean that

1619
01:32:34.220 --> 01:32:40.529
from a human perspective. there's a God-fearing Christian who loves

1620
01:32:40.590 --> 01:32:42.369
his kids and his mom that you say you are,

1621
01:32:42.390 --> 01:32:44.350
and I want to believe you are, and in many

1622
01:32:44.390 --> 01:32:48.569
ways you've presented yourself as, who went out, got in

1623
01:32:48.640 --> 01:32:51.260
a fight with his girl, argument, whatever you want to

1624
01:32:51.300 --> 01:32:52.479
call it, and.

1625
01:32:52.420 --> 01:32:57.720
Went and just done screwed up. Or there's the malicious guy.

1626
01:32:58.710 --> 01:33:01.289
A malicious guy who's lied to me about his love

1627
01:33:01.329 --> 01:33:03.289
for God, who's lied to me about his love for

1628
01:33:03.329 --> 01:33:04.810
his mother, who's lied to me about his.

1629
01:33:04.789 --> 01:33:06.930
Love for his children. Don't spin it. Don't spin it, man.

1630
01:33:06.989 --> 01:33:08.529
It's one of those two people. You're not going to

1631
01:33:08.560 --> 01:33:11.619
spin it, dude. Which guy are you? I'm the God-fearing

1632
01:33:11.659 --> 01:33:13.880
guy that you've been talking to since last night, man.

1633
01:33:13.899 --> 01:33:15.500
Then tell me the truth about it. And you know that.

1634
01:33:15.539 --> 01:33:17.579
Then tell me the truth about driving down there. Tell

1635
01:33:17.600 --> 01:33:20.220
me what I'm facing. I've just told you some of

1636
01:33:20.260 --> 01:33:25.989
what you're facing. Some. Regulus endangerment. That's almost like saying

1637
01:33:26.029 --> 01:33:27.850
I killed somebody. No, you want me to give you

1638
01:33:27.869 --> 01:33:29.770
the entire case without you giving me anything? You don't

1639
01:33:29.789 --> 01:33:30.970
have to. No, I'm not going to do that. That's

1640
01:33:30.989 --> 01:33:32.329
not what I'm asking. I'm not going to do that.

1641
01:33:32.350 --> 01:33:35.069
That's not what I'm asking. Yes, you are. No, I'm not.

1642
01:33:35.109 --> 01:33:37.560
I'm going to talk to you about perspective, truth somewhere

1643
01:33:37.569 --> 01:33:39.680
in the middle, all that. That's how I see what

1644
01:33:39.699 --> 01:33:41.800
you're asking me. You got me doing all this and that.

1645
01:33:41.859 --> 01:33:45.939
The police do this every single time. Even when you

1646
01:33:45.979 --> 01:33:48.640
try to be straight up with them, you try to

1647
01:33:48.680 --> 01:33:50.420
tell them the truth, you try to do all this

1648
01:33:50.500 --> 01:33:53.840
and that, and they steal railroad. You're not trying to

1649
01:33:53.859 --> 01:33:55.979
tell me the truth. Every single time. time you're not

1650
01:33:56.020 --> 01:33:59.060
trying to tell me the truth not anymore it's not

1651
01:33:59.119 --> 01:34:00.949
even no it don't got nothing to do with that

1652
01:34:00.970 --> 01:34:03.170
because i just told you i don't have a problem

1653
01:34:03.189 --> 01:34:05.109
with telling you everything you want to know i just

1654
01:34:05.149 --> 01:34:07.630
wanted to have an idea what are y'all going to

1655
01:34:07.670 --> 01:34:09.939
charge me what are y'all going to recommend this is

1656
01:34:09.989 --> 01:34:11.739
why i feel the way i feel i got this

1657
01:34:11.760 --> 01:34:14.300
situation with erica and milwaukee that's going to end up

1658
01:34:14.340 --> 01:34:17.159
being dismissed probably go before a judge right what do

1659
01:34:17.180 --> 01:34:19.779
you want them to think I mean, it's nothing I

1660
01:34:19.800 --> 01:34:22.970
can have them think because y'all already basically said, okay,

1661
01:34:22.979 --> 01:34:24.890
this is what happened. We just want you to tell

1662
01:34:24.949 --> 01:34:26.710
us this so we can just charge you with this,

1663
01:34:26.750 --> 01:34:28.390
which we're going to charge you with. Are you the

1664
01:34:28.430 --> 01:34:30.170
good guy that screwed up or the evil guy that

1665
01:34:30.189 --> 01:34:35.000
doesn't care? Oh, I definitely care. I definitely care. Why

1666
01:34:35.020 --> 01:34:36.960
would you be scared like that? Just because I don't

1667
01:34:37.000 --> 01:34:39.260
want to tell you something. Now I don't care. Now

1668
01:34:39.279 --> 01:34:40.979
I'm the malicious guy. Now I'm this, now I'm that.

1669
01:34:41.220 --> 01:34:43.399
Just because I don't want to talk. What other option?

1670
01:34:43.760 --> 01:34:45.640
You know the truth. We've been talking for a couple

1671
01:34:45.680 --> 01:34:48.729
of hours. Y'all apparently know the truth, too. Apparently. When

1672
01:34:48.770 --> 01:34:52.590
we came in, you were perspective on yourself. Hey, come on, Kirk.

1673
01:34:52.619 --> 01:34:55.189
You knew this last night, man. I told you. And

1674
01:34:55.210 --> 01:34:58.010
you could have been like, yo, some people got hurt.

1675
01:34:58.310 --> 01:34:59.810
We want to know what happened, man.

1676
01:35:00.050 --> 01:35:02.819
I didn't know enough details last night. There were people

1677
01:35:02.979 --> 01:35:05.699
out there all night, all night, processing a scene.

1678
01:35:05.739 --> 01:35:10.039
The entire night. Until about, I don't know, noon today.

1679
01:35:10.180 --> 01:35:15.340
Until about noon today. I didn't know everything. You can

1680
01:35:15.380 --> 01:35:17.180
believe me if you want, but I got no reason

1681
01:35:17.199 --> 01:35:19.550
to lie to you. It was complete chaos. Listen, I'm

1682
01:35:19.560 --> 01:35:22.250
not saying you're lying. It was complete chaos. I'm not

1683
01:35:22.329 --> 01:35:24.729
saying you're lying. So that's what took so long. I'm not.

1684
01:35:25.090 --> 01:35:26.850
But you know how it got to be that way.

1685
01:35:26.869 --> 01:35:28.010
Tell us how it got to be that way. I

1686
01:35:28.010 --> 01:35:30.260
didn't even get a word in it. Because we're going

1687
01:35:30.279 --> 01:35:32.779
around and around and around. We're just going to keep

1688
01:35:32.800 --> 01:35:35.720
going around and around. I mean, it's acting like you

1689
01:35:35.760 --> 01:35:38.319
don't know what these are. No, you're making it seem

1690
01:35:38.340 --> 01:35:41.689
like I don't care. Like I'm just this heartless type

1691
01:35:41.729 --> 01:35:45.579
of person, dude. Well, it feels that way. Okay, that's fine.

1692
01:35:45.640 --> 01:35:48.819
But look at my position. I've been in here for

1693
01:35:48.819 --> 01:35:52.119
24 hours. I haven't even gotten a shower, good sleep.

1694
01:35:52.350 --> 01:35:54.750
My shoulder's fucked up. I haven't even got a phone

1695
01:35:54.850 --> 01:35:58.750
call to even notify anybody, talk to my family whatsoever,

1696
01:35:59.029 --> 01:36:05.960
not one time. I'm disappointed, Daryl. I'm disappointed, too, because

1697
01:36:05.979 --> 01:36:08.590
you lied to me, Kurt. You lied to me. Talked

1698
01:36:08.649 --> 01:36:11.789
about what you wanted him to do with 20 years ago.

1699
01:36:11.829 --> 01:36:16.829
And did not just say I don't have any problem

1700
01:36:16.890 --> 01:36:21.430
telling you what happened. The only thing I'm saying is

1701
01:36:21.590 --> 01:36:24.090
I feel like you were trying to railroad me by

1702
01:36:24.149 --> 01:36:25.479
how you went about it.

1703
01:36:25.760 --> 01:36:28.920
Okay, we discussed that for about an hour. So tell

1704
01:36:28.960 --> 01:36:31.619
me what happened when you drove off. We're not going

1705
01:36:31.640 --> 01:36:33.899
to make any more progress on that. I get you're

1706
01:36:33.920 --> 01:36:36.319
pissed about that. If that's the way you feel.

1707
01:36:37.789 --> 01:36:39.670
Gotcha. It's okay. I'm not going to sit here and

1708
01:36:39.710 --> 01:36:42.449
tell you how you should or should not feel about

1709
01:36:42.510 --> 01:36:45.649
how I went about presenting things last night. Okay? But

1710
01:36:45.680 --> 01:36:48.079
what I've confronted you with and told you today is

1711
01:36:48.239 --> 01:36:50.359
your mom's car is out here. I've now shown it

1712
01:36:50.380 --> 01:36:53.579
to you. We talked about if the roles were reversed,

1713
01:36:53.739 --> 01:36:57.859
what you'd want my partner, Ben, to do. Yeah, you

1714
01:36:57.880 --> 01:36:59.399
did say that. What would you want it to do

1715
01:36:59.439 --> 01:37:01.619
if it was your kid with the broken leg? I

1716
01:37:03.020 --> 01:37:07.130
want to believe a lot of people did. A lot

1717
01:37:07.149 --> 01:37:11.539
of people got hurt. Yeah. Are you serious? Yeah. They're

1718
01:37:11.560 --> 01:37:13.579
all over there. You know what I'm saying? A lot

1719
01:37:13.600 --> 01:37:17.939
of people got hurt. Yeah, there's people hurt, man. Like that?

1720
01:37:19.060 --> 01:37:20.920
Broken legs and stuff like I told you.

1721
01:37:20.939 --> 01:37:25.659
Concussions hit their head. Yeah, I wouldn't want to see

1722
01:37:25.699 --> 01:37:29.020
that happen to nobody, dude. You just thought, yo, this

1723
01:37:29.060 --> 01:37:31.489
dude is heartless. So tell us otherwise. You know what

1724
01:37:31.550 --> 01:37:34.430
I'm saying? I'm asking you, what do you want it

1725
01:37:34.449 --> 01:37:37.970
to be perceived as? Tell us how it is for wrong,

1726
01:37:38.130 --> 01:37:40.350
and it's not heartless. I'm here to listen if it's

1727
01:37:40.369 --> 01:37:47.479
something different. Y'all know, if I did not talk to

1728
01:37:47.489 --> 01:37:53.500
that woman, I would never, ever be sitting right here

1729
01:37:53.539 --> 01:37:56.779
talking to y'all right now. I'm not going to demonize

1730
01:37:56.819 --> 01:37:59.600
that woman. She's a good woman when she's not drinking.

1731
01:38:00.340 --> 01:38:02.399
It's not about her anymore. I know. And I believe

1732
01:38:02.439 --> 01:38:03.939
that she wouldn't be in this position if you hadn't

1733
01:38:03.960 --> 01:38:05.840
talked to her. You didn't have to put the picture down.

1734
01:38:05.899 --> 01:38:11.520
You didn't have to. It's a stroller. That's a stroller. Yeah.

1735
01:38:11.880 --> 01:38:16.359
So a kid got hurt. Yeah. A kid. Yeah. Bad.

1736
01:38:17.779 --> 01:38:19.789
To me, it's a pretty good injury if a doctor's

1737
01:38:19.829 --> 01:38:23.050
got to check you out or you got a broken leg. Yeah.

1738
01:38:23.050 --> 01:38:26.489
So what do you call my shoulder? I'm just making

1739
01:38:26.489 --> 01:38:33.300
a joke. but yeah i don't know well i want

1740
01:38:33.319 --> 01:38:34.859
to believe you're the man you say you are girl

1741
01:38:34.880 --> 01:38:37.859
but i i'm not laughing because there's nothing funny about

1742
01:38:37.880 --> 01:38:39.899
this no i was just saying no it's not it's

1743
01:38:39.939 --> 01:38:41.939
never been that dude i don't take my life as

1744
01:38:41.979 --> 01:38:45.279
a joke i don't i don't take my life as

1745
01:38:45.319 --> 01:38:47.880
no joke I was just making a joke about my

1746
01:38:47.920 --> 01:38:49.960
shoulder when you just said, you know, if it's a

1747
01:38:50.000 --> 01:38:52.229
serious injury, if you got to get looked out. And

1748
01:38:52.270 --> 01:38:53.989
I was just saying, I had to get looked out.

1749
01:38:54.550 --> 01:38:58.189
They treated it like, oh, you're the guy in cuffs. So, oh, well,

1750
01:38:58.210 --> 01:39:01.369
it's nothing broken. Well, why do I keep having this thriving,

1751
01:39:01.390 --> 01:39:07.029
burning pain if nothing's wrong? Help us understand something. I

1752
01:39:07.060 --> 01:39:08.899
can do that. I just want to understand.

1753
01:39:09.180 --> 01:39:11.960
So these parents don't know why their kid got hurt

1754
01:39:12.020 --> 01:39:13.760
just the way you want to know why your kid

1755
01:39:13.779 --> 01:39:14.020
got hurt.

1756
01:39:15.369 --> 01:39:17.869
I want to understand what I'm looking at. That's it.

1757
01:39:18.390 --> 01:39:23.670
A reckless endangerment. Yeah, that's something you're looking at, right?

1758
01:39:24.510 --> 01:39:32.220
It's because some people got hurt. Yeah, people got hurt. Now,

1759
01:39:32.600 --> 01:39:34.779
I just want to say this. When you said it

1760
01:39:35.399 --> 01:39:39.340
wasn't an end of the world type thing. Because nothing's

1761
01:39:39.359 --> 01:39:42.020
the end of the world. It is. Can I tell

1762
01:39:42.039 --> 01:39:45.069
you why? How many have God in your life? It

1763
01:39:45.210 --> 01:39:48.619
is because you don't want to have God in your

1764
01:39:48.640 --> 01:39:51.619
life and you're sitting in prison. Can't see your family.

1765
01:39:51.659 --> 01:39:56.319
Can't see nobody. What does it matter then? It's just like,

1766
01:39:56.859 --> 01:39:58.979
what the fuck do I have to live for to

1767
01:39:59.020 --> 01:40:03.729
sit in prison? It's over for me. It's over. I

1768
01:40:05.189 --> 01:40:07.050
go to jail right now. I go to prison right

1769
01:40:07.090 --> 01:40:11.069
now at my age. There's no guarantee how long I'm

1770
01:40:11.090 --> 01:40:13.869
going to have to be in prison. and I'll guarantee

1771
01:40:13.909 --> 01:40:16.869
if I ever see my mama again, it's crazy, man,

1772
01:40:16.949 --> 01:40:21.310
that my life has to live in like this when

1773
01:40:21.369 --> 01:40:24.550
all I want to do is just love somebody. I'll

1774
01:40:24.590 --> 01:40:27.500
lose my life. Even if you're there, you can still

1775
01:40:27.520 --> 01:40:30.840
do things to make life better. Nah.

1776
01:40:33.100 --> 01:40:35.539
You can have peace within and with God.

1777
01:40:37.199 --> 01:40:42.689
Nah. You don't believe you can? Why not? 40 years

1778
01:40:42.880 --> 01:40:45.479
old man I struggle with a lot of times feeling

1779
01:40:45.500 --> 01:40:48.680
like I'm a failure because I haven't been the father

1780
01:40:48.699 --> 01:40:51.239
that I want to be that I know that I

1781
01:40:51.300 --> 01:40:53.779
can be so it makes me feel like I'm failing

1782
01:40:53.960 --> 01:40:57.380
or I failed a lot and then now with this

1783
01:40:58.020 --> 01:41:01.659
my mom will be so disappointed I love that woman

1784
01:41:01.680 --> 01:41:07.619
so much man that Erica yeah I just threw my

1785
01:41:07.680 --> 01:41:11.149
life away man trying to love somebody I don't even

1786
01:41:11.189 --> 01:41:13.340
have nothing to live for, man. I'm four years old.

1787
01:41:13.350 --> 01:41:16.010
I don't got nothing to show for it. You got

1788
01:41:16.029 --> 01:41:19.189
three great kids? Yeah, they'll probably never see me again.

1789
01:41:19.300 --> 01:41:19.369
No.

1790
01:41:22.079 --> 01:41:26.260
He's a seven-year-old daughter. Seven-year-old daughter, man, that can't even

1791
01:41:26.399 --> 01:41:31.189
understand what's going on. But for some reason, she understands

1792
01:41:31.239 --> 01:41:36.649
dad's in jail all the time. I like this. Just

1793
01:41:36.689 --> 01:41:39.449
trying to love, man. Trying to do the right thing

1794
01:41:39.529 --> 01:41:41.770
and when it go left, I said, I just want

1795
01:41:41.800 --> 01:41:44.180
to get away. I don't want to fight. I don't

1796
01:41:44.220 --> 01:41:47.420
want an escalation of the situation. You know, you try

1797
01:41:47.460 --> 01:41:49.800
to do what you feel is the best for you

1798
01:41:49.819 --> 01:41:53.659
to do at the time. It cost me my life.

1799
01:41:54.760 --> 01:41:57.979
How can I even talk to my mom? You want

1800
01:41:58.020 --> 01:42:01.399
to explain to me, Daryl? Nothing gonna change what I'm

1801
01:42:01.439 --> 01:42:03.859
looking at at this point. And I know that. Is

1802
01:42:06.279 --> 01:42:08.869
that a no? I need a minute right now to

1803
01:42:08.930 --> 01:42:11.680
digest this mentally, man. I'm going to have to give

1804
01:42:13.439 --> 01:42:16.340
you a minute. Wow, man. This is how my story ends, huh?

1805
01:42:17.180 --> 01:42:27.449
This is how my story ends. Wow. Man, I never...

1806
01:42:28.189 --> 01:42:31.430
I'm never getting out of prison, man. I don't know that.

1807
01:42:33.050 --> 01:42:36.180
Reckless endangerment is what I'm being charged with. You know

1808
01:42:36.199 --> 01:42:40.970
how much time that carries? That's when I'm being charged with, right? Yeah.

1809
01:42:42.090 --> 01:42:44.630
What's part of that?

1810
01:42:44.670 --> 01:42:44.789
Part.

1811
01:42:44.810 --> 01:42:48.369
So I got more than one charge? Like you said,

1812
01:42:48.390 --> 01:42:50.689
we don't know. Just take them all into yourself, okay?

1813
01:42:54.270 --> 01:42:58.329
Hell of a fucking journey, man. It's over for me, though.

1814
01:43:05.350 --> 01:43:11.029
Can I show you something? Yes, sir. And saying word

1815
01:43:11.050 --> 01:43:14.590
incriminating stuff, I'm already like I'm about to lose my life, man.

1816
01:43:18.149 --> 01:43:19.640
Can I ask a quick question? Hold on, watch it.

1817
01:43:20.449 --> 01:43:21.760
I know, why do you want me to watch it?

1818
01:43:22.100 --> 01:43:23.699
I'll show you. I just want you to watch it.

1819
01:43:23.960 --> 01:43:26.380
Watch it. Why though? Watch it for me. Why though?

1820
01:43:26.680 --> 01:43:28.159
Because I want you to see what's in the video.

1821
01:43:31.460 --> 01:43:36.600
Did you watch it? No. Will you? I just want

1822
01:43:36.659 --> 01:43:38.159
to know why you want me to watch it. Because

1823
01:43:38.199 --> 01:43:40.310
I want you to see what's on the video. Why

1824
01:43:40.409 --> 01:43:42.909
don't you want to watch it? I just want to

1825
01:43:42.930 --> 01:43:44.770
know why you want me to watch it. You wanted

1826
01:43:44.810 --> 01:43:46.619
information from us, we're sharing it. I want you to

1827
01:43:46.659 --> 01:43:48.239
watch it and see what's in it. Yeah, that's a

1828
01:43:48.239 --> 01:43:52.979
good point. It's information sharing. It's like you badgering me.

1829
01:43:53.000 --> 01:43:56.739
But Darrell, you asked me the question. Okay. And this

1830
01:43:56.819 --> 01:43:59.529
is more than what we had before. So I am

1831
01:43:59.569 --> 01:44:01.829
showing you more. I'm asking you to watch it. I mean,

1832
01:44:01.850 --> 01:44:04.369
I don't have a problem. I just want to know

1833
01:44:04.689 --> 01:44:07.569
the reasoning. Because I want you to see what's in it.

1834
01:44:08.100 --> 01:44:10.189
I mean, I'm pretty much... It's not complex. It's just,

1835
01:44:10.250 --> 01:44:11.710
you know what I'm saying? It's just that I want

1836
01:44:11.729 --> 01:44:13.510
you to see what happens. I understand. I'm just saying, like,

1837
01:44:13.710 --> 01:44:16.939
all I'm thinking about right now is... Here, we'll talk and...

1838
01:44:16.970 --> 01:44:18.970
What a hell of a journey it's been, but this

1839
01:44:19.050 --> 01:44:21.659
is how my story ends. That's all I've been thinking about.

1840
01:44:21.680 --> 01:44:26.199
Can you look down? Why do you want me to

1841
01:44:26.220 --> 01:44:30.229
see that car? Why? Because I think it's important. Why

1842
01:44:30.239 --> 01:44:34.470
is it important? Why don't you want to look? I'm

1843
01:44:34.489 --> 01:44:36.949
just asking. I'm not trying to raise my voice at you.

1844
01:44:37.050 --> 01:44:39.229
I'm just asking you why you don't want to look.

1845
01:44:39.750 --> 01:44:41.590
I'm just saying why didn't you want me to look?

1846
01:44:42.489 --> 01:44:44.880
Because I think it's important so you see what happened.

1847
01:44:45.720 --> 01:44:50.340
You told me what happened. You already told me what happened, Kurt.

1848
01:44:50.500 --> 01:44:52.199
I'm trying to come to grips with the fact that

1849
01:44:52.220 --> 01:44:55.319
this is how my story ends. From trying to love somebody,

1850
01:44:55.380 --> 01:44:58.340
I never see my kids again, my mom, my relationship

1851
01:44:58.479 --> 01:45:00.939
is gone for me. And it's like, What is it

1852
01:45:00.960 --> 01:45:02.880
to look at more in my life? It's for me

1853
01:45:02.899 --> 01:45:07.520
to look at my life in? That's you, Darrell. Is

1854
01:45:07.579 --> 01:45:10.399
it looking at my life ending? These are the same photo.

1855
01:45:11.159 --> 01:45:14.960
I'm just telling you that, okay? I think it's important

1856
01:45:14.979 --> 01:45:17.199
you see these. It's important for me to see my

1857
01:45:17.239 --> 01:45:19.859
life in. It is important for you to see them.

1858
01:45:21.000 --> 01:45:22.579
For my life to end. Are you going to keep

1859
01:45:22.600 --> 01:45:24.979
going round and round about this, or is there something

1860
01:45:25.300 --> 01:45:27.699
you want to tell me? Nothing's going to help me

1861
01:45:27.760 --> 01:45:31.390
at this point. Everybody knows what was going on. Y'all

1862
01:45:31.409 --> 01:45:34.880
knew last night while I was getting investigated, while I was,

1863
01:45:34.920 --> 01:45:41.829
you know what I'm saying? There's a children right there.

1864
01:45:43.170 --> 01:45:58.460
There's a kid. See that little kid right there? Are

1865
01:46:02.439 --> 01:46:10.250
you going to look at it? Did you hurt? Emotionally?

1866
01:46:10.270 --> 01:46:12.250
Don't do that.

1867
01:46:12.489 --> 01:46:23.130
What bothers you? Father's means that my life is over.

1868
01:46:23.869 --> 01:46:25.590
Just being up with her, man.

1869
01:46:25.630 --> 01:46:33.350
Is the reason my life is over. You're not going

1870
01:46:33.380 --> 01:46:37.600
to look at it? Okay, Lord, it hurts, man. Because

1871
01:46:37.640 --> 01:46:43.500
your life's over? Yeah, yeah. I'm not a monster, hurt.

1872
01:46:44.920 --> 01:46:45.180
Right.

1873
01:46:45.729 --> 01:46:48.819
I'm not a monster, man. Y'all on the other side

1874
01:46:48.859 --> 01:46:51.060
of the dash, man. Y'all don't care, man. Dude, what

1875
01:46:51.079 --> 01:46:53.380
do your kids want you to do right now? What'd

1876
01:46:53.399 --> 01:46:55.960
your mom want you to do right now? Go home. No,

1877
01:46:56.000 --> 01:46:58.899
about this. About this. I don't know. I didn't talk

1878
01:46:58.920 --> 01:47:01.079
to anybody. I haven't talked to anybody. You know what

1879
01:47:01.100 --> 01:47:03.859
they'd want you to do. No, I don't. Are you

1880
01:47:03.880 --> 01:47:09.220
sorry about this? Enough screwing around, man. What would they

1881
01:47:09.260 --> 01:47:11.819
want you to do? Man, just take me to jail, man.

1882
01:47:17.720 --> 01:47:20.279
So what are you telling me right now? That I

1883
01:47:20.300 --> 01:47:22.319
know I'm going to go to jail for all this stuff.

1884
01:47:22.340 --> 01:47:24.479
So what would they want you to do? Take you

1885
01:47:24.500 --> 01:47:27.300
to jail for what? Yeah, I'm going to end this

1886
01:47:27.340 --> 01:47:31.060
shit one way or another. End what shit? I'm not

1887
01:47:31.079 --> 01:47:33.439
going to spend my life in prison. I'll die first.

1888
01:47:33.460 --> 01:47:35.979
So what are you telling me? This is how my

1889
01:47:36.010 --> 01:47:38.750
story ends. Trying to be in love with somebody that

1890
01:47:38.789 --> 01:47:49.229
didn't love me back. And it's crazy, man, because My

1891
01:47:49.329 --> 01:47:53.149
intention to meet up with her wasn't to harm her

1892
01:47:53.909 --> 01:47:57.279
or anybody else. I don't go out harming people. I

1893
01:47:57.279 --> 01:48:00.060
don't go out robbing or taking anything from people. I

1894
01:48:00.079 --> 01:48:02.859
don't break into people's stuff. I don't steal from people.

1895
01:48:02.880 --> 01:48:06.760
I don't sell drugs. I don't beat people up. I

1896
01:48:06.800 --> 01:48:10.439
don't ride around with weapons or walk around with guns

1897
01:48:10.520 --> 01:48:13.640
and thinking I'm Billy Badass. I don't do that. That's

1898
01:48:13.680 --> 01:48:16.640
not the type of shit that I do. Right, yeah,

1899
01:48:16.779 --> 01:48:20.720
we've got through all that. So what about this? that's

1900
01:48:20.739 --> 01:48:23.899
why I do it. I don't wish for anybody to

1901
01:48:23.960 --> 01:48:28.119
be hurt. Anybody, not one soul. I don't care who

1902
01:48:28.619 --> 01:48:32.380
we do it. I don't wish it and I don't

1903
01:48:32.500 --> 01:48:35.779
want it. It's never my intention, personally. Do you feel nothing?

1904
01:48:35.810 --> 01:48:43.189
Do you feel sorry? You feel scared? That's what we're

1905
01:48:43.210 --> 01:48:48.329
looking for. I feel like no matter how the situation

1906
01:48:48.350 --> 01:48:51.470
plays out, my life is over. That's how I feel.

1907
01:48:53.970 --> 01:48:57.989
Whether it's by the state sending me to prison or

1908
01:48:58.010 --> 01:49:01.729
something happening to me where I don't make it out.

1909
01:49:02.529 --> 01:49:05.569
How do you feel about those people getting hurt? I'll

1910
01:49:05.590 --> 01:49:09.640
tell you one thing, though. My life is over. You

1911
01:49:09.659 --> 01:49:12.880
listen to those women and children screaming because of what

1912
01:49:12.920 --> 01:49:17.829
you did. And the only thing you feel is about yourself? No,

1913
01:49:17.850 --> 01:49:20.689
I'm not trying to make anything about me. I'm just saying.

1914
01:49:20.789 --> 01:49:23.350
That's all you've talked about. Yeah, because you asked me

1915
01:49:23.369 --> 01:49:26.149
a direct question about how I feel. So what I'm

1916
01:49:26.170 --> 01:49:29.189
supposed to not tell you how I feel. I feel

1917
01:49:29.220 --> 01:49:32.180
like my life is over. They're hurt. Does it bother you?

1918
01:49:32.579 --> 01:49:36.130
It bothers me when anybody's hurt. Does it bother you?

1919
01:49:36.159 --> 01:49:39.189
It bothers me when anybody's hurt. I could be walking

1920
01:49:39.229 --> 01:49:41.470
down the road and see somebody hurt. It would bother me.

1921
01:49:41.529 --> 01:49:43.369
How did you end up driving down that road, Darrell?

1922
01:49:44.529 --> 01:49:48.850
So what kind of question is that? It's very point forward.

1923
01:49:49.069 --> 01:49:50.329
How did you end up driving down that road? Why

1924
01:49:50.350 --> 01:49:52.109
would you even strike me as a person that don't

1925
01:49:52.170 --> 01:49:55.029
give a fuck, dude? I didn't say that. So my

1926
01:49:55.109 --> 01:49:57.539
intention was to hurt people? Are you going to answer

1927
01:49:57.560 --> 01:50:00.010
my question? I'm not asking. Man, take me to jail, man.

1928
01:50:01.020 --> 01:50:02.970
That's where I'm going. Y'all going to charge me with

1929
01:50:02.979 --> 01:50:05.130
whatever y'all going to charge me with, regardless of what

1930
01:50:05.189 --> 01:50:08.649
I say. I'm not stupid. And y'all know I'm not stupid.

1931
01:50:08.710 --> 01:50:11.119
Whatever I was getting charged with, I was getting charged with,

1932
01:50:11.340 --> 01:50:14.000
regardless if I didn't talk to y'all or not. And

1933
01:50:14.020 --> 01:50:18.289
y'all know that. That's disappointing. And I'm not disappointed. Y'all

1934
01:50:18.329 --> 01:50:20.869
knew what I was getting charged with. Y'all knew all

1935
01:50:20.890 --> 01:50:23.229
this last night. And y'all drug me through the ringer

1936
01:50:23.529 --> 01:50:27.640
to make me tell on myself to get all this

1937
01:50:27.699 --> 01:50:30.260
time that I was going to be facing anyway. When

1938
01:50:30.279 --> 01:50:32.439
y'all could have just been like, look, man, this is

1939
01:50:32.460 --> 01:50:34.899
what's going on. Hey, you want to talk or you don't,

1940
01:50:35.279 --> 01:50:36.909
we're going to take you to jail. I would have

1941
01:50:36.930 --> 01:50:40.909
rather you just. No, it's not because it never helps.

1942
01:50:42.130 --> 01:50:45.189
It never helps. It never helps. Then you're not looking

1943
01:50:45.210 --> 01:50:48.729
at the right source. Huh? Helps understand why. Okay, now

1944
01:50:48.770 --> 01:50:51.170
that I can understand. So tell me why. It's not

1945
01:50:51.229 --> 01:50:53.850
like y'all going to go to the DA and be like,

1946
01:50:53.989 --> 01:50:55.680
this is what we think. When all they're going to

1947
01:50:55.689 --> 01:50:57.180
do is say... You're going to answer our questions, Darrell.

1948
01:50:57.220 --> 01:50:58.859
When all they're going to do is say, well, we

1949
01:50:58.939 --> 01:51:00.880
already know what we want to do anyway. You're going

1950
01:51:01.039 --> 01:51:03.399
to answer our questions now, Darrell? Is it going to

1951
01:51:03.420 --> 01:51:06.000
help me? Lead us to the truth. Are you going

1952
01:51:06.020 --> 01:51:07.029
to answer them or not? Is it going to help me?

1953
01:51:07.319 --> 01:51:10.159
I'm the one that's sitting here with everything. Listen, listen, man.

1954
01:51:10.470 --> 01:51:15.350
I was not drinking. Mm-hmm. I do smoke weed. Do

1955
01:51:15.430 --> 01:51:18.779
I have mental health issues? Yes, I do. Am I

1956
01:51:18.819 --> 01:51:21.220
supposed to be on medication? Yes, I am. What are

1957
01:51:21.239 --> 01:51:23.399
you supposed to be on? What am I supposed to

1958
01:51:23.420 --> 01:51:24.579
be on? Yeah, what are you supposed to be taking?

1959
01:51:25.640 --> 01:51:27.619
I can't remember the name until it was a T,

1960
01:51:28.140 --> 01:51:31.279
some type of T name. Why'd you stop? I stopped

1961
01:51:31.319 --> 01:51:35.409
because I felt like I was in a better space mentally.

1962
01:51:36.210 --> 01:51:39.810
Without it? Without it. Without it. You almost felt like

1963
01:51:39.859 --> 01:51:41.989
it didn't benefit. You were better not taking it than

1964
01:51:42.010 --> 01:51:44.350
taking it? I was better off not taking it than

1965
01:51:44.369 --> 01:51:48.109
taking it because when I smoke marijuana, it kind of

1966
01:51:48.130 --> 01:51:51.329
gives me the same effect as medication. What are you

1967
01:51:51.350 --> 01:51:58.939
diagnosed with? Bipolar, manic depressive, schizophrenic, severely depressed, PTSD. Okay.

1968
01:51:59.640 --> 01:52:03.939
I've been in mental institutions. When's the last time? It's

1969
01:52:04.000 --> 01:52:09.350
been a minute, but I can tell you this. I

1970
01:52:09.390 --> 01:52:12.109
shouldn't have never stopped taking my medication. It's the nature

1971
01:52:12.130 --> 01:52:14.850
of your schizophrenia. I know it varies with people. What

1972
01:52:14.890 --> 01:52:19.729
is it with you? Which man? What are the symptoms

1973
01:52:19.750 --> 01:52:27.949
of yours? Symptoms? Hallucinations. What kind of hallucinations? Like just

1974
01:52:27.970 --> 01:52:31.050
seeing stuff. Seeing things? Yeah. Or hearing things?

1975
01:52:31.989 --> 01:52:32.310
Nah.

1976
01:52:32.649 --> 01:52:37.869
Just seeing things. I don't know the exact name of

1977
01:52:37.890 --> 01:52:40.500
the man. For that, you're going to talk to us

1978
01:52:40.539 --> 01:52:42.680
about this? I'm going to jail for it. It's not

1979
01:52:42.699 --> 01:52:45.720
going to help. Like I said, my intentions wasn't to

1980
01:52:45.760 --> 01:52:48.500
meet up with her, to even hang out. And that

1981
01:52:48.560 --> 01:52:51.100
turned into, well, you're not going to spend time with me.

1982
01:52:51.100 --> 01:52:52.680
You're not going to do this with me. You're not

1983
01:52:52.699 --> 01:52:55.399
going to hang out with me. Nah, I'm not going

1984
01:52:55.420 --> 01:52:59.119
to do that. Oh, well, I'm going to do this. Okay, well,

1985
01:52:59.140 --> 01:53:04.609
I'm out. Domestic abuse, contact, something. Yeah, prohibition. What's that? Okay.

1986
01:53:05.189 --> 01:53:08.310
It means you can't have any contact with Erica. All right.

1987
01:53:08.829 --> 01:53:10.329
while this is going down, or.

1988
01:53:10.590 --> 01:53:13.649
No, it's for a domestic abuse incident that they found

1989
01:53:13.689 --> 01:53:16.189
probable cause for between you and her, in which they

1990
01:53:16.210 --> 01:53:17.529
determined you were the aggressor.

1991
01:53:17.930 --> 01:53:21.789
From back on Saturday. When you say you weren't here.

1992
01:53:23.170 --> 01:53:27.229
Are you kidding me? No. I'm not kidding you. I

1993
01:53:27.270 --> 01:53:31.800
was not... Are you serious? She says you were. And

1994
01:53:31.859 --> 01:53:34.500
it's not even gonna be... You're not convicted yet. It's

1995
01:53:34.520 --> 01:53:37.409
gotta go through the system. The fact I'm getting charged

1996
01:53:37.449 --> 01:53:40.479
for something I didn't do. Well, I wouldn't worry about

1997
01:53:40.500 --> 01:53:42.340
the domestic stuff. But I'm just.

1998
01:53:42.460 --> 01:53:42.600
Why?

1999
01:53:42.619 --> 01:53:46.260
Because the other stuff is more serious, huh? You can

2000
01:53:46.300 --> 01:53:51.460
say that, man. You're a smart guy. Anyway, as it is,

2001
01:53:51.539 --> 01:53:54.750
I got to read this to you. No, this is crazy. So...

2002
01:53:54.630 --> 01:53:56.510
So just make... So she's saying I hit her with

2003
01:53:56.529 --> 01:53:59.369
something Saturday. We're pretty much at a point where we're

2004
01:53:59.390 --> 01:54:02.949
not talking. Just pay attention to the form so you

2005
01:54:02.970 --> 01:54:06.390
don't get yourself cammed up more. Come on. Come on, dude.

2006
01:54:06.449 --> 01:54:13.189
This is worse and worse and worse. Are you kidding me? Well, Darrell,

2007
01:54:13.310 --> 01:54:15.289
I can't necessarily take the hurt for it that you

2008
01:54:15.310 --> 01:54:17.409
didn't do anything because initially you told us your mom

2009
01:54:17.430 --> 01:54:18.989
didn't have a car and then you admitted she did.

2010
01:54:19.369 --> 01:54:21.869
So that was a lie? What has that got to

2011
01:54:21.890 --> 01:54:25.670
do with the domestic? It's dishonesty. Why would you lie

2012
01:54:25.710 --> 01:54:29.930
about something that's potentially so trivial? Oh, she doesn't have it. Well, yeah,

2013
01:54:29.949 --> 01:54:31.800
she does, and I use it for a thing. So

2014
01:54:32.300 --> 01:54:35.359
the point is there's a credibility issue there. I've got

2015
01:54:35.380 --> 01:54:37.229
to read this to you. I don't know the court

2016
01:54:37.239 --> 01:54:39.310
will convict you for it, but I'm just telling you

2017
01:54:39.329 --> 01:54:42.739
what she's saying. So she said I have it. It

2018
01:54:42.779 --> 01:54:46.840
was physical contact, yeah. Oh, man. No, I was not.

2019
01:54:46.859 --> 01:54:49.189
Would you say no? She says yes, so it's going

2020
01:54:49.199 --> 01:54:51.210
to come down to this. Oh, my God. Whose side

2021
01:54:51.270 --> 01:54:53.710
is the evidence support? Dude, are you serious?

2022
01:54:53.729 --> 01:54:56.010
Are you ready to listen so you don't mess this

2023
01:54:56.090 --> 01:54:57.699
up and get yourself in more trouble because I'm not

2024
01:54:57.720 --> 01:54:58.689
trying to bring that on you?

2025
01:54:59.300 --> 01:55:01.000
Should I read it? Do you understand all that? Do

2026
01:55:01.020 --> 01:55:02.979
you want me to clarify what all that meant? So

2027
01:55:03.050 --> 01:55:05.489
if you had another incident with her in the next

2028
01:55:05.489 --> 01:55:07.689
72 hours or anyone else that you have a domestic

2029
01:55:07.710 --> 01:55:10.649
relationship with, it could be a felony. It doesn't have

2030
01:55:10.989 --> 01:55:14.609
to be her. I'm not going nowhere in no time soon,

2031
01:55:14.630 --> 01:55:17.069
so we ain't got to worry about that, me having

2032
01:55:17.149 --> 01:55:20.329
physical contact with somebody I'm not even finna see. Sure.

2033
01:55:20.789 --> 01:55:24.189
Who talked to her? One of our other detectives. And

2034
01:55:24.210 --> 01:55:26.850
they said, I was out here Saturday and got into

2035
01:55:26.909 --> 01:55:27.920
an altercation with her.

2036
01:55:28.439 --> 01:55:28.560
Mm-hmm.

2037
01:55:29.020 --> 01:55:33.260
Correct. And nobody has to prove that? There's physical evidence

2038
01:55:33.300 --> 01:55:37.189
to corroborate. What physical evidence? Well. That's what I'm saying. What?

2039
01:55:37.550 --> 01:55:40.010
We're not. What physical evidence? Right now, we got to

2040
01:55:40.029 --> 01:55:41.970
sign the bail. We're not going to give you all

2041
01:55:41.989 --> 01:55:42.930
these answers when we're not.

2042
01:55:43.029 --> 01:55:43.829
All right.

2043
01:55:43.989 --> 01:55:46.069
We're just kind of spinning our wheels here. No, I

2044
01:55:46.090 --> 01:55:48.489
ain't spinning. Y'all spinning my wheels. Y'all knew it was

2045
01:55:48.529 --> 01:55:50.680
going to happen from day one, from the get. As

2046
01:55:50.739 --> 01:55:53.640
soon as y'all said, oh, we got to investigate this,

2047
01:55:53.939 --> 01:55:56.100
y'all knew it was going to happen. Y'all knew it

2048
01:55:56.119 --> 01:55:58.500
was going to happen. And y'all tried to play me.

2049
01:55:59.229 --> 01:56:03.420
instead of just being one honey. Y'all could have just

2050
01:56:03.460 --> 01:56:05.939
told me the truth, and I would have told y'all

2051
01:56:05.960 --> 01:56:08.260
the truth. Are you willing to give us consent to

2052
01:56:08.300 --> 01:56:10.500
do much of anything, Darrell? One of our guys, they

2053
01:56:10.520 --> 01:56:13.779
recovered your iPhone, and they got your Android, too. Are

2054
01:56:13.800 --> 01:56:17.350
you willing to give consent? I gave you the passcode.

2055
01:56:17.359 --> 01:56:20.670
What's the passcode on the Android one? Oh, shit, I

2056
01:56:20.689 --> 01:56:24.090
don't know, man. I don't even use that phone. That

2057
01:56:24.130 --> 01:56:26.350
was my mom's old phone. When was the last time

2058
01:56:26.369 --> 01:56:28.220
you used it? You got to know a code here.

2059
01:56:28.409 --> 01:56:30.380
If you don't use it, there's nothing in it. The

2060
01:56:30.399 --> 01:56:33.020
phone only works when it's on Wi-Fi because it's not on.

2061
01:56:33.340 --> 01:56:35.479
So you have to be by Wi-Fi for the phone

2062
01:56:35.500 --> 01:56:39.699
to actually work. Yeah, that's fine. So that was my

2063
01:56:39.720 --> 01:56:44.920
mom's old phone. Okay. Yeah, that was her phone. The

2064
01:56:44.939 --> 01:56:49.319
7-shaped iPad. But iPhones don't have swipes normally. Yeah, this

2065
01:56:49.439 --> 01:56:52.140
one does. It has a swipe. Do we have your

2066
01:56:52.159 --> 01:56:54.939
permission to look at it or what? I gave you

2067
01:56:54.960 --> 01:56:57.619
the code. The guy that works the phones is saying,

2068
01:56:58.220 --> 01:57:00.380
swipe code isn't it? He knows his phone, so. I

2069
01:57:01.300 --> 01:57:04.880
would do that just by saying, oh, I looked at

2070
01:57:04.899 --> 01:57:07.510
the phone and it's this. Because he does that professionally.

2071
01:57:07.850 --> 01:57:10.729
He knows more about your phone than you do. No,

2072
01:57:10.789 --> 01:57:14.989
he don't. He does, based on what he does. There

2073
01:57:15.029 --> 01:57:19.729
are no iPhones with a swipe. So is there consent

2074
01:57:19.770 --> 01:57:20.289
here or no?

2075
01:57:20.550 --> 01:57:20.729
No.

2076
01:57:21.069 --> 01:57:23.569
No? Okay. I can't even cry right now.

2077
01:57:23.590 --> 01:57:23.649
No?

2078
01:57:24.729 --> 01:57:28.119
No. You don't know how bad I want to. I

2079
01:57:28.159 --> 01:57:31.329
can't believe she would say I was somewhere Saturday. She

2080
01:57:31.369 --> 01:57:35.090
know I didn't do anything to her, man. Are you

2081
01:57:35.170 --> 01:57:38.770
kidding me? That's all assuming your voters and events is

2082
01:57:38.890 --> 01:57:41.970
actually true. If I actually put my hands on her,

2083
01:57:42.289 --> 01:57:46.039
she would have called you guys. I'll be right back.

2084
01:57:46.560 --> 01:57:49.159
I mean, that's what you say, Darrell, but right now

2085
01:57:49.560 --> 01:57:51.899
we don't have any evidence proving what you say is

2086
01:57:51.939 --> 01:57:54.500
true anyway. I don't really know what happened between you

2087
01:57:54.720 --> 01:57:57.189
two because There are things you haven't been honest about.

2088
01:57:57.310 --> 01:58:00.710
Okay, so again, just because I wasn't honest about my

2089
01:58:00.770 --> 01:58:03.449
mom's truck and all that, that makes me dishonest about

2090
01:58:03.670 --> 01:58:08.989
me beating up my baby mama? Definitely raises questions. There's

2091
01:58:09.060 --> 01:58:09.560
other things, too.

2092
01:58:10.369 --> 01:58:10.569
Yeah.

2093
01:58:12.470 --> 01:58:22.640
She said that I beat her up. Why is she

2094
01:58:22.699 --> 01:58:26.560
doing this to me? Why is she doing this to me?

2095
01:58:28.090 --> 01:58:30.710
Thank you. Y'all just take me where y'all gonna take me, please.

2096
01:58:32.569 --> 01:58:35.189
Move into the point. I'm not going to prison forever.

2097
01:58:35.210 --> 01:58:37.210
I'm not sitting in no prison cell. I've been there

2098
01:58:37.270 --> 01:58:39.670
in Nevada. I'm not doing that. So she said this

2099
01:58:39.689 --> 01:58:47.659
last night that I'd be the ref Saturday. Uh, yeah. God,

2100
01:58:47.720 --> 01:58:51.340
I'm never getting out of fucking prison, though. Y'all can

2101
01:58:51.359 --> 01:58:54.239
do all this other investigating, but y'all can't find the

2102
01:58:54.300 --> 01:58:57.319
basic facts of this? Enough basic facts have been found

2103
01:58:57.340 --> 01:59:00.539
to justify that charge. To justify that I put my

2104
01:59:00.579 --> 01:59:05.619
hands on her. So what happens to the problem stuff?

2105
01:59:05.640 --> 01:59:08.439
That shit goes out the window. At least people know

2106
01:59:08.520 --> 01:59:11.050
I wasn't trying to... You weren't trying to break into

2107
01:59:11.060 --> 01:59:16.189
people's houses. So that's gone. Yeah. Reckless endangerment and domestic abuse.

2108
01:59:16.909 --> 01:59:19.979
That's my understanding of it right now. Is it? First

2109
01:59:20.000 --> 01:59:24.840
degree reckless endangerment, second degree reckless endangerment. That I do

2110
01:59:24.859 --> 01:59:27.659
not know. I'm telling you right now, man. If y'all

2111
01:59:27.680 --> 01:59:30.239
try to charge me with first degree reckless endangerment, I'm

2112
01:59:30.279 --> 01:59:32.430
not never getting out of prison. I'm gonna make sure

2113
01:59:32.470 --> 01:59:36.090
of it. I'm gonna make sure of it. I know

2114
01:59:36.109 --> 01:59:38.930
y'all probably mad at me, dude, but listen, man. I'm

2115
01:59:38.949 --> 01:59:41.149
not this type of person, man. I'm not mad at y'all.

2116
01:59:41.609 --> 01:59:46.029
I'm not a murderer. I'm not... I'm not a killer.

2117
01:59:46.489 --> 01:59:50.100
Who would even think before I even turn 40... Nobody

2118
01:59:50.159 --> 01:59:52.260
even thought I was going to graduate from high school.

2119
01:59:52.279 --> 01:59:55.779
It came a long way for it to end like this.

2120
01:59:55.800 --> 01:59:58.779
I think it's the end for you now. Why do

2121
01:59:58.810 --> 02:00:02.270
you say that? People overcome stuff all the time. People

2122
02:00:02.289 --> 02:00:06.010
overcome stuff after sitting in prison for 10, 15 years, huh?

2123
02:00:06.630 --> 02:00:07.909
Who says that it's going to be that long? We

2124
02:00:09.010 --> 02:00:12.140
don't know how this is going to play out. Looking

2125
02:00:12.180 --> 02:00:20.920
at this, this is what he wanted me to see, right? Crazy, yo.

2126
02:00:25.140 --> 02:00:28.819
So where did the gray sweatshirt come from? I don't know.

2127
02:00:28.840 --> 02:00:34.329
What'd you do with it? Shit, man. I'm freezing, man.

2128
02:00:34.350 --> 02:00:37.569
My shoulder's starting to hurt again. Something is wrong with

2129
02:00:37.590 --> 02:00:39.989
this shoulder. I know for a fact something is wrong

2130
02:00:40.010 --> 02:00:43.859
with this shoulder. And they still don't know who that

2131
02:00:43.899 --> 02:00:46.170
was that slammed me? So they're writing a warrant for

2132
02:00:46.210 --> 02:00:48.050
those swabs I told you about. What's it got to

2133
02:00:48.069 --> 02:00:52.390
do with my statement? Are y'all keeping that statement or? Well, yeah,

2134
02:00:52.409 --> 02:00:54.689
for what it's worth. I mean, yeah, you saw us

2135
02:00:54.750 --> 02:00:56.989
write down. We took notes. We talked with you. Everything

2136
02:00:57.029 --> 02:00:59.050
you said will be there. I want to know if

2137
02:00:59.090 --> 02:01:01.369
he slammed me on my shoulder. I've got to talk

2138
02:01:01.409 --> 02:01:06.939
to somebody about that because my shoulder's still hurting. What

2139
02:01:06.960 --> 02:01:11.020
do they need to swab your DNA for? Obviously for something.

2140
02:01:11.220 --> 02:01:13.920
I don't know if there's something specific. No, I'm just saying,

2141
02:01:13.939 --> 02:01:16.859
what do they usually... Do that for her. See if

2142
02:01:16.880 --> 02:01:18.970
there's any DNA transfer. It can be for anything.

2143
02:01:19.100 --> 02:01:21.770
Saliva, touch it, skin cell, and stuff like that.

2144
02:01:21.829 --> 02:01:24.569
Legally, you should be able to refuse that. You can.

2145
02:01:24.630 --> 02:01:27.289
You did. That's why they're getting a warrant. And then

2146
02:01:27.369 --> 02:01:30.640
once the word comes, I can't refuse it. Correct. Yeah, see,

2147
02:01:30.649 --> 02:01:34.039
that's stiff. She'd be against the law. Why? I mean,

2148
02:01:34.520 --> 02:01:37.380
for them to forcefully get something from you. That's a

2149
02:01:37.399 --> 02:01:40.300
warrant to force? Yeah. Anybody can say no to everything.

2150
02:01:40.319 --> 02:01:42.729
No to blood draws, no to looking at someone's phone.

2151
02:01:42.770 --> 02:01:44.649
It would have been a thrill to live. It'd be

2152
02:01:44.649 --> 02:01:48.890
70 or something like that. My life is over now.

2153
02:01:49.590 --> 02:01:50.750
Well, you feel that way?

2154
02:01:50.850 --> 02:01:55.069
Everything in life has consequences. Yeah, for sure. You know,

2155
02:01:55.109 --> 02:01:58.949
with this situation, it wasn't what I did, per se.

2156
02:01:59.510 --> 02:02:03.090
It was about the decision to be around somebody that

2157
02:02:03.149 --> 02:02:05.550
I knew I shouldn't have been around at that moment.

2158
02:02:07.020 --> 02:02:09.539
Because I made the decision to link up with somebody

2159
02:02:09.579 --> 02:02:15.279
that I knew I should have never linked up with. Yeah. True.

2160
02:02:15.380 --> 02:02:18.399
That was a poor choice for me to link up

2161
02:02:18.430 --> 02:02:22.449
with somebody. So 100% of you would have it after that. Yeah.

2162
02:02:22.550 --> 02:02:26.949
You're an adult. True. Right? True. But as far as

2163
02:02:26.989 --> 02:02:30.369
this domestic thing, you shouldn't be able to get sent

2164
02:02:30.390 --> 02:02:33.029
to jail just because your girlfriend or your wife or

2165
02:02:33.050 --> 02:02:36.779
somebody says you did something. Where's the evidence? Where's the

2166
02:02:36.819 --> 02:02:38.350
physical thing? You're right.

2167
02:02:38.369 --> 02:02:41.470
You really don't ever go to jail based on just

2168
02:02:41.590 --> 02:02:42.729
somebody saying something.

2169
02:02:42.750 --> 02:02:45.930
There's got to be evidence. They saying it's evidence based

2170
02:02:46.029 --> 02:02:48.630
on the day that I wasn't even in Waukesha. How

2171
02:02:48.649 --> 02:02:51.989
can I commit a domestic abuse if I'm not even

2172
02:02:52.069 --> 02:02:54.949
in the city? All she does when she's angry and

2173
02:02:54.970 --> 02:02:58.810
drunk is call back and say, I was just drunk,

2174
02:02:58.869 --> 02:03:01.430
I was just mad, and it just never happened. You

2175
02:03:01.470 --> 02:03:02.250
get what I'm saying?

2176
02:03:02.369 --> 02:03:05.890
Yeah, because in our line of work, That happens quite often, unfortunately.

2177
02:03:05.909 --> 02:03:07.930
It's going to happen because she knew I didn't do

2178
02:03:07.989 --> 02:03:08.510
anything to her.

2179
02:03:08.609 --> 02:03:12.029
Right, but again, I don't know all the details. I'm

2180
02:03:12.050 --> 02:03:14.880
probably saying too much, but there's a reason why you

2181
02:03:14.909 --> 02:03:17.279
hear from that alone, right?

2182
02:03:17.500 --> 02:03:17.680
Right.

2183
02:03:18.199 --> 02:03:19.020
That's what court's for.

2184
02:03:19.380 --> 02:03:21.939
Right. To decide that stuff. People recant statements.

2185
02:03:21.979 --> 02:03:24.319
People say things out of emotion, and then they take

2186
02:03:24.359 --> 02:03:26.159
it back. We can only deal with what we have

2187
02:03:26.180 --> 02:03:28.539
in front of us at the time. Right now, it's

2188
02:03:28.579 --> 02:03:29.060
what we got.

2189
02:03:31.100 --> 02:03:37.539
You're really fixated on that. Domestic, though. Because that's the

2190
02:03:37.579 --> 02:03:41.899
thing that caused everything. It's like, first of all, you

2191
02:03:41.960 --> 02:03:44.850
said I did something to you that you know I

2192
02:03:44.890 --> 02:03:48.430
didn't do. I met up with her yesterday, and we

2193
02:03:48.449 --> 02:03:51.670
got into a shouting match. And because of us getting

2194
02:03:51.729 --> 02:03:55.770
into that shouting match, it caused a ripple effect for

2195
02:03:55.859 --> 02:04:00.439
everything else. Right. Regardless of all that.

2196
02:04:00.460 --> 02:04:03.140
Because I know nothing of that, it doesn't change what

2197
02:04:03.159 --> 02:04:03.779
happened after that.

2198
02:04:04.380 --> 02:04:05.760
Oh, so you know what happened after that.

2199
02:04:06.060 --> 02:04:09.619
I don't know hardly anything. I'm here now today listening

2200
02:04:09.640 --> 02:04:10.279
to them talk to you.

2201
02:04:10.659 --> 02:04:14.979
Right. Right outside in the hallway, right? Right. Correct. Correct.

2202
02:04:15.359 --> 02:04:19.609
But like I said, there's consequences to actions. For sure.

2203
02:04:20.670 --> 02:04:24.130
You try to reason with them or justify them to yourself.

2204
02:04:24.489 --> 02:04:24.930
They happen.

2205
02:04:26.210 --> 02:04:28.689
But you can't say in one breath, you know of

2206
02:04:29.600 --> 02:04:32.140
your actions and consequences and ownership and then blame it

2207
02:04:32.220 --> 02:04:33.000
on her.

2208
02:04:33.420 --> 02:04:35.760
No, no, no. You are, though. You keep saying... No,

2209
02:04:35.800 --> 02:04:37.720
I'm saying... It wasn't for her. No, no, no, no, no, no.

2210
02:04:37.739 --> 02:04:42.020
This is what I'm saying. No. Because you misinterpreted what

2211
02:04:42.039 --> 02:04:43.800
I was trying to say. What I'm saying is... You

2212
02:04:44.890 --> 02:04:48.489
guys have radio? No. We're going to get you out

2213
02:04:48.529 --> 02:04:51.329
of here, Durrell. Okay.

2214
02:04:51.409 --> 02:04:51.649
Okay.

2215
02:05:02.819 --> 02:05:07.659
All right, Darrell, can you stand up for me?

2216
02:05:07.859 --> 02:05:10.960
I do have to put handcuffs on you.

2217
02:05:11.039 --> 02:05:32.500
Ah, this is the shoulder. No, you didn't know, so. Yeah, no.

2218
02:05:32.819 --> 02:05:35.399
I just touched your hand and it didn't do anything. No,

2219
02:05:35.479 --> 02:05:39.640
the pressure. Even moving that arm a certain way, that

2220
02:05:39.680 --> 02:05:44.920
shoulder is toe-back. Ah, it hurts my shoulder with my

2221
02:05:44.960 --> 02:05:46.880
wrist being like this. Ah.

2222
02:05:47.020 --> 02:05:47.180
Oh.

2223
02:05:47.220 --> 02:05:59.050
Yes, sir. Come on, man. I feel like I'm not

2224
02:05:59.109 --> 02:06:00.989
even doing anything.

2225
02:06:01.069 --> 02:06:01.369
I know.

2226
02:06:01.470 --> 02:06:04.439
It's the shoulder. It's not you. That's what I'm trying

2227
02:06:04.449 --> 02:06:10.760
to tell you. It's not you.

2228
02:06:11.300 --> 02:06:20.869
I'm not trying to hurt you.

2229
02:06:23.109 --> 02:06:30.819
I walk a straight line Shackle and change. Oh, gruesome

2230
02:06:30.840 --> 02:06:39.439
Gertie is calling my name. There is no mercy in

2231
02:06:39.479 --> 02:06:45.609
this penitentiary. Just ask the hill string gang.

2232
02:06:46.670 --> 02:06:55.100
Wrangle the three. I'm here for life. Inside these walls.

2233
02:06:56.939 --> 02:07:07.909
Inside the wild And when the world cries I know

2234
02:07:07.989 --> 02:07:14.529
it's over.

2235
02:07:12.310 --> 02:07:15.810
Oh, bloody Angola

2236
02:07:18.409 --> 02:07:22.630
Oh, bloody Angola